Reel Repair by Alan Tani

Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Daiwa Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: alantani on February 07, 2009, 11:49:02 PM

Title: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on February 07, 2009, 11:49:02 PM
as old as they are, the daiwa 900h and 910h are still very popular among big fish fishermen.  here's your reel.

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN59621.JPG)

what were going to do is change out the old 3-stack of drag washers to a new 5-stack of carbon fiber with thinner metal washers. 

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6159.JPG)

we're going to install a bigger handle grip.

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN5980.JPG)

and change out the rod clamp.

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN5981.JPG)

first, let's back out each one of the left side plate screws (key #'s 2 and 3).

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN5983.JPG)

note that the three screws on top are shorter than the two screws on the base.

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN5988.JPG)

add a bead of grease to each screw hole and zip the screws back in.

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN5984.JPG)

now, lets back out all of the right side plate screws (key #'s 51 and 52).

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN5985.JPG)

the reel separates easily into three pieces, the spool, frame and right side plate.

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN5989.JPG)

lube the left side plate bearing.

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN5990.JPG)

take an old toothbrush and clean up the inside of the frame.

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN5991.JPG)

i'm going to install a 6/0 penn graphite clamp.

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN5992.JPG)

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN5993.JPG)

ok, the frame is done.

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN5993.JPG)

let's clean up the spool a little.

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN5995.JPG)

and back into the frame it goes. 

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN5996.JPG)

now, on to the right side plate.

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN5997.JPG)

remove the handle lock screw (key #66).

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN5998.JPG)

remove the handle handle screw (key #65) using a a handle wrench from a shimano tld 20/30 two speed.

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN5999.JPG)

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6000.JPG)

remove the handle (key #64).

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6001.JPG)

remove the handle washer (key #63).

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6002.JPG)

remove the star drag (key #62).

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6003.JPG)

remove the spacing sleeve (key #61).

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6004.JPG)

remove the tension springs (key #58 and 60) and drag spring washer (key #59).

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6005.JPG)

back out the three set plate screw A's (key #45) and set plate screw B (key #46).

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6007.JPG)

the set plate assembly (key #29) will drop out as a unit.

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6008.JPG)

here's the old stack of drag washers compared to the new stack.

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6012.JPG)

here's the height of the old drag stack.

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6014.JPG)

here's the height of the new stack.

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6015.JPG)

slap a thick coat of cal's drag grease on every carbon fiber drag washer and rebuild the drag stack.

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6016.JPG)

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(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6018.JPG)

install the spacing sleeve (key #61).

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6019.JPG)
place two fingers over the four set plate screws.

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6020.JPG)

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the set plate should lay down cleanly into the right side plate.

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6021.JPG)

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6022.JPG)

flip the right side plate over.

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6023.JPG)

tighten down the set plate screws (key #'s 45 and 46).

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6024.JPG)

install the tension springs (key #58 and 60) and drag spring washer (key #59).

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6025.JPG)

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6026.JPG)

install the star drag and turn it down until it is well past the shoulders of the drive shaft.

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6027.JPG)

install the handle washer (key #63).

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6028.JPG)

now to switch out the smaller stock grip for a larger kolekar grip.  first, let's drill out the rivet.

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6029.JPG)

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6030.JPG)

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(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6032.JPG)

the new grip bolts right on.

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6033.JPG)

tighten down the handle screw (key #65) using the shimano wrench.

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6035.JPG)

install the handle lock screw (key #66).

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6036.JPG)

the right side plate is done.

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6037.JPG)

lube the spool shaft.

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6038.JPG)

lube the set plate bearing (key #28).

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6039.JPG)

install the right side plate assembly.

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6040.JPG)

install the right side harness lug (key #18) and rod brace lug (key #19).

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6041.JPG)

install the right side plate screws (key #'s 51 and 52).

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6042.JPG)

so here is our completed reel. you now have a full sized handle grip, a stack of 6 penn drag washers (1+5) and a new clamp.  the driving force behind this rebuild was the need to increase the drag range of this reel.  a  stack of four drag washers (1+3) only delivers 20 pounds of drag.  that is way too low for a reel this large.  by cutting thinner metal drag washers, i could use a set of five #6-116 penn ht-100 drag washers inside the gear and a single #6-114 drag washer underneath the gear. this stack of drag washers will deliver 30 to 35 pounds of drag, bringing the reel up to it's full potential. 

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6043.JPG)

to convert a sealine 910h to a 900h, you need a 900h set plate (part #783-3302), a 900h handle screw (part #781-2301), a handle set screw (part #353-2811) and a 900h handle (part #748-1101).  you can call daiwa at 562-802-9589 and order these parts.  the total should be somewhere around $30.  add to that a 6/0 kolekar grip for $33 http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=158.0 and a drag washer set for $25 http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=153.0 . 

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6045.JPG)

the other alternative is to cut the handle arm of the 910h a little shorter.  the set plate for the 910h is quite a bit shorter than the 900h.

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6046.JPG)

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6048.JPG)

there you go.  great reel, and a much better value than the 9/0 penn senator 115L. 

(http://www.fullspeedfishing.com/gallery/data/500/medium/DSCN6044.JPG)




Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on February 08, 2009, 09:00:04 PM
Quotenorth coast - 2/8/2009  10:58 AM Nice.  From what I see, the smaller sealines (350, 400, 450, 600) are all very similar to this reel. I have all the smaller reels mentioned. wondering if the same treatment would work on all?

yes, it does!!!!!  http://alantani.com/index.php?board=7.0

now, the smaller reels can all reuse the metal drag washers and just substitute penn washers.  to maintain the proper height, you can double up some of the drag washers.  it really does not matter as long as the star does not bottom out.  the 900h/910h was a different matter, however.  a stack of three drag washer was only delivering 20 pounds of drag.  for a reel this big, this was clearly not adequate.  by having thinner metal washers (0.045") and using the penn ht-100 #6-116's, you can have 5 functional drag washers inside the main gear instead of three drag washer.  that increases the drag range from 20 pounds to 35 pounds.  this higher drag range brings the reel up to it's full potential.  alan
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on February 11, 2009, 04:40:56 PM
Quote from: bobross;2400810Alan, On the Daiwa you went from 3 to 5 drag washers and substantially increased the amount of drag. On the Penn 111 tutorial you did pretty much the same thing. I saw an older 4/0 Penn (113) on ebay today that claimed it has increased the drag washers from 3 to 5 (used the 6-60 washers) and claimed it increased drag by 40%. Do I see a pattern here? More but thinner drag surfaces increase performance? What kind of set up would you recommend to do this on some Penn 4/0 and 6/0's? By the way, the reel on that auction site said that he replaced the 4/0 gear sleeve and star wheel with a 505 (not sure what model that is, a Jigmaster?) as it has thinner threads and allows for more fine adjustment of the drag range. What do you think? Your devoted student. Bob Ross

yes. the older black side plate penn senators had a thick composite drag washer. they were so thick that you could only get three washers into the main gear. using the thinner ht-100's, you could squeeze 5 drag washers in. you now have 5 washers instead of three. it functionally increases the total drag surface area by 40%, so that part of the math is correct. it also will increase the drag range, but it might not be an additional 40% because other factors will come into play.

with the daiwa 900h/910h, the math actually did hold up. if you use the original thick metal washers and then double up the stack of penn ht-100 drag washers so that you have a functional stack of "three" drag washers, you get 20 pounds of drag. if you use five thinner metal washers and 5 penn ht-100 washers in a standard configuration, this "five" stack will deliver about 35 pounds of drag. you get a 40% increase in functional drag surface area and, son of a gun, a 40% increase in functional drag pressure! when i first started working on the these big daiwas, i was shocked at how little drag pressure they delivered. to bring this reel to it's full potential, i knew i needed a thinner set of metal washers. it's nice to have friends that own laser cutters!!!!!!

the old black side plate 4/0 penn senator 113 is a special case. it is important not to confuse it with the red side plate 113h. they are totally different reels. yes, you can switch out the drag washers and the stack of 5 ht-100 #6-60's will just barely fit. this "five" stack of drag washers will deliver a pretty reliable 15#'s of drag. the problem is the drive shaft or "gear sleeve." it's made of soft brass. at drag settings in excess of 8 pounds, the top of the gear sleeve will round off and the handle will start to loosen. that's why i had a machine shop buddy make me a bunch of gear sleeves made of stainless steel. they will hold up to a 15# drag setting. so what you have to do is upgrade the penn 113 with a #6-113 drag washer underneath the main gear, a set of 5 #6-60's inside the main gear, a stainless steel gear sleeve and a jigmaster power handle. then spool up with reel with straight 40# mono and set the drags to 12#'s. you have now turned the old black side plate 4/0 penn senator 113 into a true 40# reel. oh, and you'll probably have to dremmel out the side plate a little to accomodate the taller drag stack.

regarding the gear sleeve itself, i have three models available - a coarse thread jigmaster 500 gear sleeve, a fine thread "high speed" jigmaster 505 gear sleeve, and a coarse thread squidder 140 gear sleeve. one of these days i'll have a gear sleeve made for the penn 113h and 114h, but that will be way down the road. not really alot of need for it right now. the penn 113h, 114 and 114h are fine with stock ht-100 drag washers and cal's grease. these larger reels will deliver plenty of drag.

clear as mud, huh! alan
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on March 03, 2009, 04:30:10 PM
QuoteAlan, I am going through my reels this winter, finally. I have a laundry list of parts I want from you. Before I email it with some $$, I want to do the 5 drag stack for 2 Daiwa 600h's. I took the reel apart and the drag washers measure 29.6mm OD, 16.3mm ID, 2 mm thick.  They are a little smaller than the 900's and a little bigger than the 400's. They equate to penn #6-115 or #6-895. I can measure the metal washers and the small one under the gear. Can you get new metal washers made if supply the dim's?? I would like the "kit" that you have for the 900 reel, only sized for my 2 600 reels.

yeah, you know, we talked about that one.  what i found with the 600 series is that you get 20 to 22 pounds of drag with the doubled up ht-100's.  i was thinking that i could have the guys cut out a set of metal washers, but it would cost me about $500 for 300 keyed washers and 200 slotted (eared) washers.  the benefit for the 900 series is HUGE.  the benefit for the 600 series is marginal.  i think most guys would not need more than 20#'s of drag, so i decided against it.  alan
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on February 15, 2010, 07:33:21 PM
Quote

Alan, I am in the UK. I have a Sealine 900 (not the later 900h), and would like to beef up the drag with one of your kits. I see from one reply to your tutorial that one customer replaced the top metal washer with one of the originals. Did you change your replacement stack in light of that feedback?  I also have two reels that I would like to improve the drag on: a Senator 114 and an Ambassadeur BG 7000 HSN. I put the same number of carbonex washers in the 7000 but it made no real difference - it has a pathetically weak drag, which a 5lb cod can pull line off.  Thanks, Tim.



hi, tim!!!!!  if you can give me an address i can send out the drag kit.  i had not mentioned that, but will.  thanks!  for the ambassaduer, is there any chance that you have spectra that is slipping on the spool?  alan
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: hottuna1 on April 25, 2011, 10:47:37 PM
Hi Alan,
   I recently received from you a 900H drag upgrade kit and 6/0 Handle replacement. I finally got around to doing the conversion/upgrade the other day and it went quickly and flawlessly!  I didn't have a drag scale handy, but the hand-pull test is so much stronger than before.  Thanks again!
   -Bill
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on April 26, 2011, 12:47:13 PM
glad it worked.  i just talked to a guy that had a bunch of these reels in storage.  it would be great to get them out and working again. 
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: ONEIDA80100 on September 10, 2011, 07:11:49 PM
Alan Tani,
        I have a  Daiwa 900H.  I would like to purchase the carbonex drag kit you mentioned in the 900h rebuild. These are not listed on the Smoothdrag website for the 900h. Do you still sell these?
        If anything has be resolved to improve the 600h I would like to buy one for that also.
Thanks
Dusty
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Raumatibeach on October 19, 2011, 06:02:03 PM
Hi Alan, are the kits still available?
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on October 20, 2011, 03:34:05 AM
sorry, no.  i have more metal washers on order.  it will be a month........
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Raumatibeach on October 20, 2011, 10:13:25 AM
No worries, are the handles still part of the kit?
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on October 20, 2011, 05:23:20 PM
6/0 handle grips are still available.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: rippinlipsoff on November 10, 2011, 07:56:03 PM
hey alan,


I have a 900h on the way and I would like to upgrade the drag.

Did the kits come in yet?
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on November 11, 2011, 08:07:50 AM
just wrote a $1000 check to pete kolekar this morning.  it's still a month off. 
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: RJH on December 26, 2011, 07:34:55 PM
Alan - enjoyed your tutorial.  I have a 900, 600, 450h and two 350H - is there an upgrade for all these I can get from you?  In addition, I have two nice jigmasters that are in great condition an 505hs and 500s - what, if any, upgrades can I do for them.

Thanks

Ron
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: RJH on December 26, 2011, 07:37:27 PM
PS - I dropped one of my Daiwa 350H and broke the plastic nob on the handle - who do you suggest I can buy a replacement from?  What do you think of the Smoothies and Xtreme smoothies drag washers?

Thanks again,

Ron
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on December 29, 2011, 08:51:48 AM
the 4/0 grip, or even the smaller 2/0, would be fine. 
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: DRT dead right there on January 02, 2012, 05:12:03 PM
Alan, are the washers available ? I would like to order 1 set. Thanks, DRT
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on January 02, 2012, 09:48:23 PM
yes, i'm going to start grinding them down today.  send me a pm with your address and i will send a set out to you.  thanks!  alan
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: team fishbones jones on February 28, 2012, 03:09:38 AM
Quote from: alantani on January 02, 2012, 09:48:23 PM
yes, i'm going to start grinding them down today.  send me a pm with your address and i will send a set out to you.  thanks!  alan
are these washers still available alan? and how much is the handle upgrade for the 900h?
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on February 28, 2012, 05:17:11 AM
yes, the drag set is $25 and the 6/0 handle grip is $36.  shipping is included.  note that i am now shipping out only 4 metal washers.  everyone was using one of the original thick metal washers on top anyway.  send a pm with your address if you want one.  thanks!  alan
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: marshalljoy on May 09, 2012, 08:08:03 AM
I have a daiwa 900 with a big handle, not the standard ones pictured. is there a handle replacement for this? or do i need to convert it the same way you would convert a daiwa 910?
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on May 10, 2012, 03:47:57 AM
you have a 910H rock cod special?
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: marshalljoy on May 10, 2012, 06:08:44 AM
It looks like the rock cod 910 handle but the plates on the side say Sealine 900h
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on May 10, 2012, 06:44:14 AM
it might be an aftermarket handle.  you might be able to go with a standard 900h handle.  can you take a photo?
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: marshalljoy on May 11, 2012, 04:58:13 AM
Here is one picture
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: marshalljoy on May 11, 2012, 04:59:03 AM
and the handle
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on May 11, 2012, 11:59:24 PM
wierd.  that looks like a daiwa handle for a 910h.  a profile shot of the star would show extra "910" pieces.  here is the 900 schematic http://www.daiwa.com/PartsDiagram/PartsDiagram/900H.pdf and here is the 910 schematic.  http://www.daiwa.com/PartsDiagram/PartsDiagram/910.pdf  the bridge is different and the 910 has a spacer cap that the handle attaches to.  guess it's possible that someone coverted a 910 into a 900. 
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: marshalljoy on May 12, 2012, 02:25:29 AM
Yeah its weird, does this mean I can just order an upgraded handle from you, replace it and be done with it? or will i need to buy the other conversion pieces to get my 910 imposter to become a 900h
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on May 12, 2012, 04:20:21 AM
not sure.  the handle for the 900h is only $10.  i bought one a while back, drilled out the old grip and bolted on a 6/0 kolekar grip.  they work great like that.  can you give us a profile shot that includes the star?  or better yet, can you remove the handle and show us what the top of the gear sleeve looks like. 
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: lyt on August 20, 2012, 06:25:01 PM
ok my daiwa 900H has the same HUGE handle as the above picture.........but i was told it was a 900H

how would i tell if it is a 910?
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: redsetta on August 20, 2012, 09:52:16 PM
G'day lyt,
May want to compare the schematics, now that you have your 900 apart:
Cheers, Justin
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on August 25, 2012, 11:03:20 PM
the gear sleeve is different.  plus the handle and the handle nut.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: lyt on August 27, 2012, 03:57:42 PM
Hi Alan,

ok so for the complete drag stack, which includes:....

4 metal washers you sent
5large+1small drag washers
1 OEM metal washer (the thinner one)

I get 13.20mm    is this ok?   on your tutorial it says 12.22mm   

i am assuming you do include the small washer in the stack.....right?
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on August 27, 2012, 04:22:47 PM
there should be one medium slotted metal washer, one medium keyed metal washer and one super thick keyed metal washer.  i think either keyed metal washer will work.  can you let us know?  thanks!  alan
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: lyt on August 28, 2012, 04:31:52 PM
Yes!   Apart from the corrosion issue i am dealing with now.....   the reel drag itself seems to be AMAZING....I can almost not even hold the spool against the drag.   I ended putting in the thinner washer that had no nubs on it....  however unlike the tutorial.... the stack was 13.20mm (this was measured with ALL WASHERS metal and carbon).   I will be able to test the exact drag shortly, but my scale is not up to this one....   

Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: lyt on August 28, 2012, 04:45:56 PM
I did have one other comment and question about these reels.   One other poster above seems to have had the same issue identifying between the 900H and the 910.   I have the same issue.  I have heard that Daiwa does update their reels so i am not really sure if these diagrams are accurate to my older reel.

I will detail this a bit better:

Comparing the two diagrams that i printed out......

1)  I have the HUGE handle, which led me to believe I had a 910.
2)  MOST of the parts when I disassembled it were like the 900H especially since it had the #67/68 parts as the rod clamp #16/17 which is on the 900H
3)  My reel did not have Part #60 which is why my handle is possibly not completely right.  
4)  the 910 handle has two holes, the hole at the very end is much larger, but the other hole seemed to fit with the screw i had.
5)  Mine had part #63 which on the 900H diagram should be there...it is not on the 910.  but this is what is messing me up.....its the wrong part for the handle.



So here is my question:   if my set plate is the 900H but I'm trying to use the huge handle, is this an issue?    there is a small gap between the start drag and the handle....it doesnt look right....


(http://i.imgur.com/IASoU.jpg)



help ?
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: lyt on August 28, 2012, 07:32:39 PM
ok....just got off the phone with Daiwa....

it seems the huge handle was an option....like previously stated....   call a ROCK COD special....i guess you just use the handle hole that is NOT on the end....  i dont think there is any way to use it since the shaft on the set plate of the 900H is longer or shorter (I cant remember).....even with that #60 on the 910 diagram.   i am assuming the #60 is what allows you to place the handle at the end.....that would give you some SERIOUS cranking MAN!
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: dogtagger on November 03, 2012, 06:37:26 PM
Great site Alan, thanks for the resource.

I just finished my first season with the Daiwa 900H w/drag upgrade. The reel works well and has plenty of drag for sharks here in Maine. I do have an issue that I hope someone can help out with. I fish with the reels in free spool, with the clicker on while drift fishing for sharks. My issue is that the Daiwa reels have a much weaker clicker than my Penn 115s and I experienced some ugly backlashs during quick pickups.

Does anyone have any suggestions to the weak clicker? I've tried bending the clicker spring, but it doesn't seem to help much.

Thanks

Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on November 05, 2012, 04:27:52 AM
bending the clicker spring in is the only way,  they never seem to work right.

lyt, the gap you see is fine.  before installing a longer handle arm, try a bigger grip first.  i think you will find that it will work fine for you. 
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Ron Jones on November 05, 2012, 08:52:00 PM
This reel is the only reel that I have had a handle twist off on, sucks when their is 300+ feet of line out. Is their a stronger sleeve in the Daiwa catalog that can be used on this reel?

Ron
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: JNP on November 07, 2012, 04:57:54 PM
Hallo everybody.
I have a DAIWA 900H with broken click claw (Part no. 030-6111).
Any idea where can I buy one?
Thank you ,John.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on November 08, 2012, 01:54:12 AM
crud, i forgot that you are in greece.  i will need to order one for you and mail it out. 
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: JNP on November 08, 2012, 07:46:49 AM
Quote from: alantani on November 08, 2012, 01:54:12 AM
crud, i forgot that you are in greece.  i will need to order one for you and mail it out. 
I already had an answer from Daiwa and they promised me that they will send for free the click claw.
I will let you know about this.
What a great servise!I could not believe it!
Anyway, thank very much for your kind answer.John
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on November 08, 2012, 07:52:55 AM
please let me know if you have trouble with daiwa.  i know things are tough in greece right now.  hopefully things will turn around.  we want to visit in 4 years.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: JNP on November 09, 2012, 05:20:15 PM
Quote from: alantani on November 08, 2012, 07:52:55 AM
please let me know if you have trouble with daiwa.  i know things are tough in greece right now.  hopefully things will turn around.  we want to visit in 4 years.
Hi,

I will get this part sent out to you as a courtesy no charge.

Regards,
~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~
| Toby Baar
| Customer Service
| (800) 736-4653
This is the answer from Daiwa,Alan.I think its clear.
You are welcome to Greece.When you decide to come, ask me for places to visit.
Things are tough in greece right now for the locals, not the tourists.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on November 09, 2012, 07:34:34 PM
this is the way it should be!
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: JNP on November 14, 2012, 11:29:21 PM
Quote from: alantani on November 09, 2012, 07:34:34 PM
this is the way it should be!

Today I received the click claw from Daiwa Corp.
I already opened the 900H put the new drag kit and yes its much better now.
The drag is soft from the begining of the pull. I cannot measure the max lbs
of the reel but now it is really a 50W reel.Thank you Alan.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: edgarz on November 15, 2012, 01:32:46 AM
Good day Alan, are the drag upgrade kit and kolekar handle available? I would like to improve my 900H.

Thanks,
Edgar
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on November 15, 2012, 04:00:37 AM
i still have the drag washers, but i am out of 6/0 grips.  send an e-mail and i will send the drag washer set out first. 
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: racoonbeast on March 24, 2013, 10:05:06 PM
Hi Alan. I am a great fan and have learned much from your tutorials. I got one of your upgrade drag kits to improve the drag on my 900H. I painstakingly followed your very comprehensive instructions and replaced the old ones gleefully waiting to see thirty pounds of drag on my drag scale. It didn't happen. I got 22 lbs. with the thing locked down so tight it would have taken a hammer to lock it tighter. After studying every picture and word in your tutorial, it became clear to me that it could only be one thing. The tension washers. I had put them back in duplicating the manner in which it looked like you did, but mine had nowhere near the distance between them mating high side on the bottom to high side on the top. So, being adventuresome, I took the bottom thicker one, placed it in the vise, gave it small whack, and then my stack looked more like yours. I can lock them up manually now and if pushed just a bit beyond comfortably finger tight, I get 36 lbs. of drag. Thirty lies in the comfort zone. So, at least in my case, the secret to success was noticing what you had been showing right along. There should be a noticeable "hump" between the big bottom one, the straight middle one, and the thinner top one. It was a "new old stock" reel and had never been used, so I have no idea what it was before. I wish that I had measured just for giggles what the maximum space that their configuration out of the box allowed. It couldn't have been much. But with your upgrade kit and a little head scratching on my part, I would just like to add that if you don't get the thirty pounds of drag that you had hoped for upon getting Alan's kit, the tension washers and exactly how they are placed when put back in make all the difference in the world. At least it did in my case. If I had it to do over again, that is the first place that I would check. Unknown to me, my reel had come from the factory not generating much tension due to barely bent tension washers. There are very few problems in the world that a good sized hammer, or ten pounds of dynamite can't cure  ;D
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on March 31, 2013, 06:00:03 PM
hey, i'm just glad you worked it out!!!!
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: edgarz on August 15, 2013, 11:14:01 AM
Hello Alan, is the 6/0 kolekar handle available now?
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on August 16, 2013, 05:48:42 PM
i have a replacement for the 6/0.  i call it a 5/0.  it is almost the same size, with all the straight edges gone. 
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Bryan Young on August 16, 2013, 06:32:05 PM
If you still want the 6/0 handles, I have 6 of them that I bought from Alan for my reels (and I haven't installed them yet).  I can always pick up replacement handles from Alan in the future.  I'm not very particular...except I want the same handles on all reels.   ;D
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: edgarz on August 17, 2013, 07:05:57 AM
Hi Alan, I would like to take 1 smooth 5/0 kolekar, 1 set of 900h drag washer kit, a tub of cal's drag grease, and if possible to ship to the Philippines a can of TSI.

Thanks for the offer Bryan but I'll be happy with the 5/0.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on August 17, 2013, 02:57:59 PM
i am trying to catch up now.  just finished a couple of awful reels that had to get done. now working on parts orders. 
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: edgarz on August 20, 2013, 03:53:17 AM
PM sent Alan.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: edgarz on August 27, 2013, 10:26:17 AM
Payment sent.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: edgarz on August 30, 2013, 07:32:03 AM
Hi Alan, I got the package in good condition. Many thanks for the quick  shipping.

Edgarz
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: edgarz on September 01, 2013, 12:52:11 AM
I was just about to tear down my reel and looking at the instructional there are supposed to be 3 round and 2 eared metal washers.
The package contains 2 eared and 2 round washers only.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: RowdyW on September 01, 2013, 02:46:45 AM
You are supposed to reuse the original thick top washer.    Rudy
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: edgarz on September 01, 2013, 12:05:23 PM
Top meaning it goes in the slot first or last?
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: RowdyW on September 01, 2013, 02:27:16 PM
Last.......the thick one. In the gear first is the bottom, in the gear last is the top.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: edgarz on September 01, 2013, 11:36:45 PM
Thanks for the info. I'll give it a go next weekend.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: jbackos on December 22, 2013, 09:30:38 PM
Alan,

Not to threadjack, but I just took delivery of a 910 rockcod. Do you currently have any drag upgrades available or will you in the near future? I will be using the reel next summer.

Thanks,

John
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: togtavern on January 09, 2014, 02:14:45 AM
hey alan any chance you have anymore 900H drag washer kits available? thanks
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on January 09, 2014, 02:34:09 AM
yes.  send me a pm with your address and i will ship them out.  remember you get 4 metal washers.  you have to reuse the thickest metal washer on top of the stack.  check out the 5/0 handle grips as well!  http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=7325.0
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Chris on January 30, 2014, 04:25:32 AM
I have a drag kit coming,will drag washer be pre-greased?I also want to be sure,do I re-use the thick stock washer?
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: dogtagger on February 28, 2014, 04:03:55 PM
So 2013 was my second year fishing with my Tani'd 900s, and one of the reels got it's first real test. As some of you will recall I released a massive mako last summer http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=7994.0 (http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=7994.0), which was taken with my 900 w/ 80 lb mono, drag upgrade and kolekar 6/0 handle upgrade. In the past the reels have performed perfectly, but with the mako, I had to button down the drag to slow the fish down. When I got the drag as tight as I could, there was a distinct tight spot, like something was warped in the drag system.

So fast forward to last night, I tore the reel down, looking for whatever might have been the problem. Low and behold the slot milled into the gear for the eared washer doesn't extend to the bottom of the gear, but instead stops well above the bottom of the gear, and is beveled upward toward the outside of the gear.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Lf_7engsauU/Uw_GhIa9pnI/AAAAAAAABM4/v-6ZymG4r1k/w471-h628-no/20140227_181204.jpg)

In this picture, its kind of hard to see. The original washers were pretty thick, but now with thinner washers in there the first eared washer hit the bevel before the drag could bottom out, resulting bent ears on the washer.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-HlqcFNRRE_w/Uw_G61yWfQI/AAAAAAAABOA/84Hv8q31KyM/w471-h628-no/20140227_181503.jpg)

As you can see, when the ears bent, only a small part of the eared washer contacted the HT-100 drag washer.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-IjIOAtORDJs/Uw_GvcQB1MI/AAAAAAAABNc/xn-k4Bg2Gpc/w471-h628-no/20140227_181253.jpg)

This was the reason for the lack of drag and the warped feel with the drag cranked tight. My solution is to use one of the original keyed washers at the bottom of the stack, two thin eared washers, one thin keyed washer and one original thick washer at the top of the stack. I havent tested it yet, but I don't have enough room to use the thickest washer on the top.

As usual, I went through the reel, brushed it up with a little grease. Low and behold, I discovered the reel foot is a separate piece from the frame, and is held there by the two long screws.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-v3AcWQcYV-k/Uw_NL4CewRI/AAAAAAAABOU/650BKd3yujI/w471-h628-no/20140227_184153.jpg)

who knew? (not me anyway!).

Long story short, I'll post an update when I have a chance to test the drag. I hope the thicker washer gives the eared washer enough room, but ultimately I may have to dremel out the bottom of the milled slot.

To be continued...
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Bryan Young on February 28, 2014, 04:13:02 PM
Thank you for the information.  I'm currently looking at re-designed the drag system for Alan's 900H replacement kit.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on February 28, 2014, 05:59:18 PM
actually, one quick way to fix that would be to bend the ears up.  you see that in many daiwa metal drag washers. 
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Shark Hunter on February 28, 2014, 09:10:17 PM
That is Minor considering the Giant you caught!  I hate to admit it, But it gave me new respect for the Sealines. I have a 600 and am still on the hunt for a 900. Interesting the foot separates from the frame. I never knew. :)
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: cmaraj1 on March 18, 2014, 01:41:11 AM
jus bought a 900h off ebay for 125.00  do u guys think i paid too much????  im planning on doing the drag upgrade and looking for a cheap 6/0 handle
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Shark Hunter on March 18, 2014, 02:10:28 AM
Its not too much if you want it bad enough. I was watching that same reel from the pennshimano guy. That's why I don't have one yet. I don't want to spend that much. I'll drop a hundred on 9/0's like they are peanuts. I have a mental block when it comes to buying something other than a senator. I think Sal has engrained it in me. :P
As far as a cheap 6/0 handle. They are not cheap. about $33 each from the Boss. Its not cheap being cool.
That giant Mako that Dogtagger caught is proof that the 900H is a reel to be reckoned with. Even with a drag problem. That is impressive. ;)
$125 isn't too bad for that reel. It has all the accessories and looks in pretty good shape. You need to order a drag kit first and then get one of those Kokelar handles.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Bryan Young on March 18, 2014, 05:59:34 AM
If you want 6/0 handles, I have a few that I have for a few 6/0 that I was building but never got around to it. The are $33 plus shipping.

If you want used one, I have 2 that I'm willing to sell at $25 each plus shipping. They are on a couple of smaller reels and want to change Em to smaller handles.

Bryan
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: cmaraj1 on March 19, 2014, 12:54:56 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HANDLE-FIT-PENN-REEL-SENATOR-114-114H-114HL-114HLW-6-0-115-9-0/111302528911?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.RVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D5583585094601926979%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D20131017132637%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D351024145233

will this handle fit the 900h?  saw it on ebay, it says it for a penn 6/0 9/0??
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Shark Hunter on March 19, 2014, 01:35:24 AM
I don't think it will fit. I have seen the Kokelar handle put on the Daiwa arm. That seems to be the way to go.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: floating doc on March 19, 2014, 01:40:34 AM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on March 19, 2014, 01:35:24 AM
I don't think it will fit. I have seen the Kokelar handle put on the Daiwa arm. That seems to be the way to go.

That's what I did with mine.  If you go that route, be sure to get the grip with the counter sunk screw.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: cmaraj1 on March 19, 2014, 01:50:18 AM
ok do u have any pics of your reel with the ebay handle?
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Shark Hunter on March 19, 2014, 02:09:03 AM
I have bought quite a few handles and stainless steel posts from that same seller. Don't quote me on this, but I believe the 9/0 and 6/0 handle will interchange with a 600H. The 900H is its own bird. I prefer these handles from him, but this was before Lee started making Keta Kranks. :P
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/twotanks_zpsb1be0524.jpg)
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_21781_zpse7f35de6.jpg)
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: bluefish69 on March 19, 2014, 03:56:02 AM
I have a Ball Handle maybe from the same guy you bought the top 2 "T" Handles. In the Winter it gets Cold, I would rather have Allan's Handle on the bottom.

Mike
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Porthos on March 19, 2014, 04:21:07 AM
If you just want the handle and not worry about the arm, this one will save you $4.05:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Replacement-T-Bar-Handle-with-Molded-Knob-Fits-PENN-Senator-6-0-114-114H-9-0-115-/310895784583?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4862d53287

I got one and the included arm is shorter than the 600H's factory arm. Ended up just drilling out the old knob and attaching the new one on the old arm. The included arm is now a spare in my spare parts box.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: bluefish69 on March 19, 2014, 04:19:56 PM
I have held the one you showed. It was bigger than the side plate of the Newell that I was going to put it on.

Mike
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: cmaraj1 on March 23, 2014, 01:38:53 AM
anyone have a spare wrench key for the sealine 900h? i cant find one online
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: MFB on March 23, 2014, 06:41:11 AM
Yep.

Rgds

Mark
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: cmaraj1 on March 25, 2014, 02:42:34 AM
what kind line is everyone running on there 900h?
how much of 100lb braid with a top shot of 100lb mono can i get on this reel?
looking for close to 1000 yards total?
this is for my sharking setup..
i hope alan doesnt get madd for all the questions im asking on this thread...
thanks guys
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Porthos on March 25, 2014, 07:01:31 AM
Quote from: cmaraj1 on March 25, 2014, 02:42:34 AM
what kind line is everyone running on there 900h?
how much of 100lb braid with a top shot of 100lb mono can i get on this reel?
looking for close to 1000 yards total?
this is for my sharking setup..
i hope alan doesnt get madd for all the questions im asking on this thread...
thanks guys


accuratefishing.com/support/linecal.php
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: MFB on March 25, 2014, 07:39:29 AM
I have 300m of 45kg braid on mine with a 24kg mono backing, but I only use mine for deep sea fishing (100m+)

Rgds

Mark
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on March 26, 2014, 05:47:20 PM
Quote from: cmaraj1 on March 25, 2014, 02:42:34 AM
what kind line is everyone running on there 900h?
how much of 100lb braid with a top shot of 100lb mono can i get on this reel?
looking for close to 1000 yards total?
this is for my sharking setup..
i hope alan doesnt get madd for all the questions im asking on this thread...
thanks guys


not at all.  alan chui has dyneema that would fit the bill nicely.  i have both alan's dyneema and jerry brown's hollowcore spectra in 100.  i think that 1000 yards would fit with no problem, and still leave room for a healthy topshot.  are you set up with a winder?
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: cmaraj1 on March 27, 2014, 05:21:08 PM
ok , u just lost me whats a WINDER?   i have no clue what that is?
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Bryan Young on March 27, 2014, 05:25:13 PM
Quote from: cmaraj1 on March 27, 2014, 05:21:08 PM
ok , u just lost me whats a WINDER?   i have no clue what that is?
It's a machine used to put line on your reel.  If you are putting on braided line (dyneema or spectra), it has to be consistently packed tight (min. 10# of drag).  Beside, putting on 1000 yards of line by hand is really an exercise that should only be reserved if you have a big, big, fish on the other end of the line.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: cmaraj1 on April 11, 2014, 05:20:11 PM
ohh ok , i dont have a winder but will let a local shop install it for me,  i purchased 100lb 1000m  spectra extreme  from ebay....
and will top it with 100lb mono....
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: maine guide on April 25, 2014, 01:36:20 AM
I just picked up two 900h's. I need the washer set, the 6/0 handles and a wrench to remove the handle nut. Bryan are you still selling your 6/0 handles?
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: floating doc on April 25, 2014, 01:41:15 AM
Bryan's your source for these reels! ;D

He just serviced my 900H, installed the drag set and a Kolekar grip. It's headed for a shark trip the last week of May.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Bryan Young on April 25, 2014, 05:29:58 AM
Quote from: floating doc on April 25, 2014, 01:41:15 AM
Bryan's your source for these reels! ;D

He just serviced my 900H, installed the drag set and a Kolekar grip. It's headed for a shark trip the last week of May.
Thanks for the honor but Alan is the source for such parts.  Regarding the wrench, I use a Penn wrench but have to push down on it to it stays engage with the nut because the top of the nut fits but flair outward towards the handle.  Send Alan a PM.  He can get the parts to you.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: cmaraj1 on April 26, 2014, 03:15:21 AM
yes i also need a 900h wrench.... can anyone help???
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on April 26, 2014, 03:19:33 AM
i'm having a senior moment here.  it's actually been so long since i've worked on one, i can't remember, but i believe that my penn wrench works on the daiwa. 
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: cmaraj1 on June 12, 2014, 01:41:42 AM
hey when alan greased these drags washers did he wipe off the excess?
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on June 12, 2014, 02:56:27 AM
you can, but i usually do not. 
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Shark Hunter on June 12, 2014, 03:56:31 AM
I don't either on my Senators, It will get squeezed out and the washers will soak some of it up. I want to make sure there is plenty. ;)
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: cmaraj1 on June 12, 2014, 04:30:59 PM
ok cause when he greases avets he usual wipes off most of grease....
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on June 12, 2014, 04:33:48 PM
yup, that's the difference between star drag and lever drag.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: cmaraj1 on June 13, 2014, 04:07:46 AM
ohh ok i understand now... u learn so much from this site....
i want some of those drag washers for the 900h, how do i get them from you alan?
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on June 14, 2014, 08:55:26 PM
send a pm with your address and i will ship them out with a paypal request.  also take a look at the 5/0 grips.  they are a HUGE improvement over the stock grips. 
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Igor Peric on October 20, 2014, 08:38:02 AM
Hello Alan,

I wonder if you have carbon drag kit for upgrade Daiwa Sealine 900 H? Here's a picture... i need to replace this old washers

(http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag170/bocaporta/reels/daiwasealine900H_zpsb4aa5b04.jpg) (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/bocaporta/media/reels/daiwasealine900H_zpsb4aa5b04.jpg.html)

Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on October 20, 2014, 04:37:50 PM
i do, indeed.  i sent you an email.  thanks!!!!!
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Igor Peric on November 17, 2014, 11:41:27 AM
New drag kit and new set plate...
Alan, thanks again

(http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag170/bocaporta/reels/repl_zpsb032f3ff.jpg) (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/bocaporta/media/reels/repl_zpsb032f3ff.jpg.html)
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on November 17, 2014, 07:30:10 PM
i have a new stainless steel handle arm that is almost finished.  let me know when you are ready for one. 
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: DrTimD on December 17, 2014, 07:42:13 AM
I have lurked for a time enjoying all of the posts and all of the wonderful tutorials. Alan, I have a 900h I want to get upgraded. Do you still have the drag washers and is there a chance you still have a handle laying around? Thanks in advance!


Tim
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on December 17, 2014, 04:54:54 PM
tim, welcome!!!!  i stll have a half dozen drag sets and they're $25 each, plenty of 5/0 grips, and i have a new stainless steel handle arm for the 600H and 900H for $10.  send me a pm with your address and i can mail it out with a paypal request.  thanks!  alan
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Shark Hunter on December 18, 2014, 12:46:45 AM
Welcome Dr. Tim!
I need one of those too Alan. I finally bit the bullet. ;)
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: mainbutter on January 09, 2015, 08:39:28 PM
Hi guys I have a question regarding 900h parts:

I acquired a used 900h, but the person I bought it from never used and apparently discarded all the hardware to clamp the reel to a rod.

I know that Penn graphite clamps can be used, but my question is regarding the hardwrae (screws etc) - can I substitute the hardware from one of Penn's clamp & hardware kits to actually attach the clamp?  Any recommendations which hardware/clamp set I go with?

Follow up question, as I'm new to larger fishing gear: just because your hardware fits your reel, does that guarantee that your hardware will fit any suitable rod out there as well?
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: handi2 on January 09, 2015, 11:33:31 PM
Yes you can and get the clamp kit for a 114H/115 9/0 reel. It fits perfect. It will come with the graphite rod clamp, 2 studs, and 2 nuts.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on January 10, 2015, 07:02:24 AM
yes, the clamp for the 114h will work just fine!
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Shark Hunter on January 10, 2015, 07:05:38 AM
butter,
I have a few of these laying around. Drop me a PM and I'll send you one.
BTW, Welcome! ;D
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: mainbutter on January 10, 2015, 05:56:52 PM
Wow thank you for the offer!  PM sent, let me know if you want payment and/or shipping I'd be more than happy to paypal you.

Thanks again guys, I'm sure I'll have more questions in the coming months as I get up and running with some reel maintenance and repairs.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Shark Hunter on January 10, 2015, 06:21:15 PM
I'll get it in the mail on Monday. NC ;)
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: mainbutter on January 15, 2015, 04:55:58 AM
Huge thanks Shark Hunter, got the clamps in the mail!  You're too kind man.  Winter is still tackle time, but when march rolls around I'll see if I can't put these clamps to the test.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Shark Hunter on January 15, 2015, 05:02:41 AM
No problem butter. I have quite a few of those laying around. Leftover parts from the Dom frame conversions. Well, I use to. Glad I could help you out. That's what its all about here. ;)
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: madday on February 07, 2015, 03:31:18 PM
Quote from: alantani on December 17, 2014, 04:54:54 PM
tim, welcome!!!!  i stll have a half dozen drag sets and they're $25 each, plenty of 5/0 grips, and i have a new stainless steel handle arm for the 600H and 900H for $10.  send me a pm with your address and i can mail it out with a paypal request.  thanks!  alan

Alan,
what is the length of your handle arm? same size for 600H and 900H?
thanks.... :)
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Bryan Young on February 07, 2015, 07:50:29 PM
They are the same length except made they are stainless steel and I believe a little thicker.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: madday on February 08, 2015, 03:54:58 AM
Quote from: Bryan Young on February 07, 2015, 07:50:29 PM
They are the same length except made they are stainless steel and I believe a little thicker.

thanks for the clearing Bryan.... i wish it was little bit (half inch) longer....  ;D
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: tittilator on February 23, 2015, 05:23:31 PM
hi alan, I am a newbie, thank you for accepting me into your forum, I am looking forward to learning from here.
I have a Daiwa 910 I recently got from ebay, and I read that the drag is little weak sauce, I haven't tried it personally. I want to upgrade it, is it also necessary to do the
handle upgrade when you do the drag upgrade?
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on February 24, 2015, 07:20:48 PM
welcome!!!!

so, the drag set is easy!  i have about 20 left. i also have a very nice handle for the 900h, but not the 910.  you could compare part numbers off the schematic to see what it would take to convert the 910 into a 900, but it would be costly.  an alternative would be to shorten the 910h handle arm and bolt on a 5/0 grip.  a couple of guys have done that and it's looks nice.  i just think that the 910 handle arm is way overkill.  it's not hard to work on.  let me know how i can help!
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: mainbutter on March 09, 2015, 03:27:14 PM
I have an issue with my new handle. The bolt keeps coming loose during use! I am worried the handle will fall off during a fight.  I even loctited it but that did not help at all.  Any suggestions? Am I doing something wrong?

Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: fIsHsTiiCkS on March 10, 2015, 02:52:37 AM
Quote from: mainbutter on March 09, 2015, 03:27:14 PM
I have an issue with my new handle. The bolt keeps coming loose during use! I am worried the handle will fall off during a fight.  I even loctited it but that did not help at all.  Any suggestions? Am I doing something wrong?



Were you using blue loctite? Blue never hold for me either, I had to start using red and it holds very well now!
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Shark Hunter on March 10, 2015, 03:43:01 AM
Do you have the set screw that keeps the handle nut from backing off?
Look at the first page of this thread and you will see what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on March 10, 2015, 04:07:10 AM
i think it's the connection between the spindle and the arm.  if you can get a 10-32 machine screw with a hex head, then button it down tight, it should work.  i might have to switch to a hex head machine screw.   :-\
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Rapchizzle on April 08, 2015, 01:19:22 AM
Using this thread and the drag kit and handle I got from Alan, I now have a super solid, #### kicking deep dropping reel on the cheap.  I'm very impressed in the 900h after these upgrades.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on April 08, 2015, 06:54:58 AM
it's an amazing reel!
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: foakes on April 08, 2015, 05:41:07 PM
A lot of folks will not admit to owning these -- because we all like our Penns...

The externals and internals on these 900s -- are undervalued, as well as impressive.

The solid metal construction, solid 360 frame, use of high quality SS, durability, and simplicity of these old discontinued reels -- is amazing.

Adam is helping me with a couple of upgrades on a couple of 910 Rockcod Specials I have.

When you want "meat in the pot" -- these get the job done every time.

They are like a winch.

And what I like about them, is how cheap they are -- and easy to work on.

Just about equal size to a 9/0 -- and I hate to say it, possibly stronger, if set up with just a few little upgrades (drag stack, greased, and a handle upgrade).

I continue to be mystified why a good company like Daiwa, would make such a durable reel -- then discontinue production?

Here is one side by side with a Penn 9/0 that Daron gave me.

Best,

Fred

(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx130/foakes1/100_3234_zpsp3pooy2j.jpg) (http://s748.photobucket.com/user/foakes1/media/100_3234_zpsp3pooy2j.jpg.html)

(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx130/foakes1/100_3233_zpsgzu2vcyx.jpg) (http://s748.photobucket.com/user/foakes1/media/100_3233_zpsgzu2vcyx.jpg.html)
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: crackerman on April 09, 2015, 02:22:15 AM
I absolutely love mine. It has Alan's drag stack and handle. I absolutely love how smooth the reel is. If someone made a stainless gearset and gear sleeve we would have a tremendously tough reel with the new inserts coming out!
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Igor Peric on April 15, 2015, 09:28:55 PM
Custom drag from Alan....
and this is result with upgrade Daiwa 900 H  Dusky grouper or Cernus (Epinephelus marginatus)

My friend with nice grouper, Adriatic sea, Montenegro

(http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag170/bocaporta/cernus_zpsxscwviem.jpg) (http://s1368.photobucket.com/user/bocaporta/media/cernus_zpsxscwviem.jpg.html)
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: foakes on April 15, 2015, 09:48:18 PM
Beautiful catch, Igor!

Possible contender for Photo of the Month, Alan?

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Shark Hunter on April 15, 2015, 10:36:55 PM
Great Shot Igor! ;D What a Pig!
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Alto Mare on April 15, 2015, 11:21:32 PM
Nice fish, Igor. Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Igor Peric on April 15, 2015, 11:37:21 PM
Thank you all!
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: MFB on April 16, 2015, 06:55:01 AM
Nice fish

Rgds

Mark
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Rapchizzle on April 26, 2015, 01:36:38 AM
(http://www.charlestonfishing.com/forum/uploaded/rapchizzle/2015425213233_11070483_797279493805_2332499594610019967_n.jpg)

First fish on my upgraded new to me 900h.  This thing didn't even think twice about cranking this Snowy up from 800'.  I was very surprised at how big the fish was when he came up from how easy it was to reel.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: MFB on April 26, 2015, 11:53:49 PM
Sweet...

Rgds

Mark
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: madday on May 14, 2015, 01:24:00 PM
Quote from: foakes on April 08, 2015, 05:41:07 PM

  I continue to be mystified why a good company like Daiwa, would make such a durable reel -- then discontinue production?


GOOD NEWS...

I was believed last year that daiwa will cease to make this reel in Japan, HOWEVER its still appear in daiwa's 2015 japanese catalog, so its still being made and sold... Unfortunately maybe only in Japan.... :D

Actually I just bought two of 900H recently, after more than satisfied with my 600H (4 pieces)... These reels is truly workhorse.... And cheap spare parts.... :D

I can't wait to upgrade them though..... ;D
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Rancanfish on May 14, 2015, 04:09:31 PM
Quote from: Rapchizzle on April 26, 2015, 01:36:38 AM
(http://www.charlestonfishing.com/forum/uploaded/rapchizzle/2015425213233_11070483_797279493805_2332499594610019967_n.jpg)

First fish on my upgraded new to me 900h.  This thing didn't even think twice about cranking this Snowy up from 800'.  I was very surprised at how big the fish was when he came up from how easy it was to reel.

Yes but it twisted the eyes on your rod all up!   ;D  Hey what are the different colors on your spool?
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: RowdyW on May 14, 2015, 04:41:45 PM
The different colors are on braided line & are dyed a different color about every 40-50 feet to help in counting depth of your bait. It comes in a wide choice of line weights.    RUDY
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: bluefish69 on May 14, 2015, 04:50:31 PM
It's called Depth Counter by the makers.

Mike
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Rancanfish on May 14, 2015, 05:21:12 PM
Ah, ok.  Just have never seen it in use.  At those depths I think I'd be going bigger Daiwas too.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: bluefish69 on May 14, 2015, 05:28:54 PM
I've fished to 400' using Mono & Braid for Cod & Pollock that was enough for me.

Mike
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Rancanfish on May 18, 2015, 04:14:50 AM
I have absolutely no use for one of these.  I got rid of my 9/0 Penn that sat in my garage for ten years.


It's being delivered sometime next week.    ;D ;D ;D ;D

EDIT:  Oh my, I love this reel.  This is a weapons grade tool.  I was fortunate to pick this up cheap. I opened it up and it is pristine.  I was sensitive to even putting fingerprints on it!  I serviced the left side plate screws, and coated the lugs and plate with light grease.  It will never have corrosion in it's lifetime.

Hopefully Alan has an upgrade kit for this baby. I already have a big grip I won from Pete Kolekar at a fishing club drawing. I barely got the handle screw off with my Penn tool.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: jonnou on May 23, 2015, 09:41:48 AM
Quote from: Rancanfish on May 18, 2015, 04:14:50 AM
I have absolutely no use for one of these.  I got rid of my 9/0 Penn that sat in my garage for ten years.


It's being delivered sometime next week.    ;D ;D ;D ;D

EDIT:  Oh my, I love this reel.  This is a weapons grade tool.  I was fortunate to pick this up cheap. I opened it up and it is pristine.  I was sensitive to even putting fingerprints on it!  I serviced the left side plate screws, and coated the lugs and plate with light grease.  It will never have corrosion in it's lifetime.

Hopefully Alan has an upgrade kit for this baby. I already have a big grip I won from Pete Kolekar at a fishing club drawing. I barely got the handle screw off with my Penn tool.

If Alan doesn't have a kit You should be able to order a new set of factory metal washers and use carbontex washers or cut your own from sheet and get it to five plus one. With thinner metals. it would probably take seven?
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Rancanfish on May 23, 2015, 01:48:30 PM
Thanks for the info.   This reel's brand new inside and out. The main gear is shiny like a new penny.  I haven't even been able to bring myself to drill out the crank handle, it's just so nice.

I need a plinth lol.  

So a new set of factory washers isn't needed, correct. Unless the new ones are thinner?

EDIT: Duh finally noticed the metal washers are different thicknesses. So using a new factory kit gives you the extra, thin keyed, and extra eared washer. ( I think). Then use the fat keyed on top as needed.  I have a caliper tool now, but still can't do the math without knowing which new CF washers I'm using.

I'm hoping for a kit, but Alan is busy I'm guessing with his real regular life because he hasn't responded to my email.  Us regular Joes don't ever get as busy Alan is all the time, even on his days off from his real job. So I'm gonna shelve this project and come back to it later.

Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on May 23, 2015, 03:56:14 PM
randy, i still have drag kits.  i also have a stainless steel handle arm to go with the new 5/0 grip.  was out of town for the last couple of days. 
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Rancanfish on May 24, 2015, 01:08:03 AM
Alan, sent you an email. You can ship or I can buy ya breakfast tomorrow.  LMK.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on May 24, 2015, 02:18:44 AM
got a mid morning shift tomorrow.  gotta be on the road by 9am for a 12 hour shift.  is paypal ok?
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Rancanfish on May 24, 2015, 07:23:02 PM
Thanks Alan.  I'm going to work on my pic posting skills because I still can't believe how new this is inside.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Shark Hunter on June 13, 2015, 04:27:07 AM
Randy,
Did yours come with the box? My Birthday present. NIB with the original receipt and paperwork.
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_2931_zpsgpjwlyc0.jpg)
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Rancanfish on June 13, 2015, 05:46:48 AM
Lucky guy! Happy birthday Daron.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: jonnou on June 13, 2015, 08:10:03 AM
Thats Nice!! Daron
I just did the drags on mine last week. New set of factory metals then cut 5x 0.5mm Carbon fibres. Fat washer in first to get the level above the lack of depth of machining in the gear. then thin washers to make it a 5 plus one that's it. Got roughly 10kgs or 22 lbs. still need to get some delrin for the under gear I just retained the factory one. Hope to run this with my marlin spread next year.
Watch those side plate stickers don't fall off most the ones iv'e seen have.
You going to fish it?

Best regards Jon
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Porthos on June 13, 2015, 09:21:16 PM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on June 13, 2015, 04:27:07 AM
Randy,
Did yours come with the box? My Birthday present. NIB with the original receipt and paperwork.
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_2931_zpsgpjwlyc0.jpg)

Hmm...looks like despite all your reservations, you're well on your way to a Daiwa Sealine collection.  ;)
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Shark Hunter on June 13, 2015, 09:40:30 PM
Probably not Jon. I have another one. Good to see you. You haven't been around much lately.
I can't help myself Wai. ::) I already had a 900 and 600H. I picked up another one of each.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Three se7ens on June 14, 2015, 03:18:02 AM
I have insert kits for the 900/910 in the works, and I have a couple of 600H insert kits that just need to be fitted. 
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: jonnou on June 14, 2015, 10:53:10 PM
Quote from: Shark Hunter on June 13, 2015, 09:40:30 PM
Probably not Jon. I have another one. Good to see you. You haven't been around much lately.
I can't help myself Wai. ::) I already had a 900 and 600H. I picked up another one of each.


Yeah Been busy with the new Job. Just getting the chance to catch up on the reel world. My 600h has become my deep drop workhorse the gear ratio is perfect for a rod holder winch. I get to the top about a minute after the others but I still have a smile on my face not beads of sweat. Three sevens will your inserts take the lack of depth in the ear grouves in the gears? I think my 600h produces the same sort of drag as my 900h they are both converted to 5plus1
Tight lines Jon
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Rancanfish on June 17, 2015, 10:48:46 PM
Daron, did you put a Tani handle on your 900 yet?

The reason I ask is I bought an NOS handle and arm, drilled it out and discovered the hole is way too big for my Kolekar replacement knob.  I need to find a stainless bushing/collar ,or something, around the allen head screw.

Boy I hate doing any kind of machine work.  I drilled a hole, but finally resorted to a dremel stone to grind off the back of the original knobs' brass rivet. It didn't turn out perfect.  :D

Now I've got another unfinished project.......
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Shark Hunter on June 17, 2015, 11:48:55 PM
No I haven't Randy, but I put one on one of my 600's. I use the 5/0 with the countersink.
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_2937_zpspwbdpnyg.jpg)
Standard handle on top, Countersink on bottom. Makes the connection much stronger with no stress on the screw. Requires 5/16" hole.
(http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/IMG_2118_zps4f0a0eec.jpg)
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: NYIsles55 on June 16, 2016, 08:43:45 PM
Does anybody know where to get parts for the 900h? Specifically the harness lugs and the rod brace and lugs for that.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: day0ne on June 16, 2016, 09:13:20 PM
Daiwa has them
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: RowdyW on June 16, 2016, 09:16:20 PM
Diawa in California. Those parts should be in stock.   800 736-4653      Rudy
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: cbar45 on June 16, 2016, 10:12:26 PM
Quote from: NYIsles55 on June 16, 2016, 08:43:45 PM
Does anybody know where to get parts for the 900h? Specifically the harness lugs and the rod brace and lugs for that.

I recently ordered the same parts directly from Daiwa, as mentioned.

Give their parts department a call when you can; they've always been helpful.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Drongo on February 14, 2017, 10:40:56 PM
G'day  Alan, do you still have these drag kits? And could you send me one here in Australia?
Cheers
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on February 15, 2017, 05:05:00 AM
yes, but shipping is insane.  it's just the cost of postage, but it's still insane.  send me a pm with your address and phone number and i can get it send out to you.  thanks!  alan
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: PA_Sharker on June 13, 2017, 12:41:53 PM
Hi,
I just acquired my first 900H.  It was missing a screw.  Can anyone tell me if one of the four set plate screws (on right side cover of reel) are longer than the other three?
Perhaps someone could give me a PN or a thread size/length so i could replace.  Thanks!
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Rancanfish on June 13, 2017, 02:42:29 PM
Part #B15-9101  Set plate screw 'B'.

edit: Daiwa 562-375-6800 press #3.

There is one on the auction site for $5.99...........

Daiwa would be my first try.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: PA_Sharker on June 13, 2017, 07:34:13 PM
Thanks Rancanfish.  To confirm, this screw is different than the other 3 going through that plate?
What does this screw do? Obviously each component has a purpose, but is my reel functional for the immediate time being without it?

Thanks!

Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Rancanfish on June 13, 2017, 09:06:41 PM
My (incorrect) guess is (was) that it holds the anti-reverse lever.  If you turn your handle backward while in gear and it stops, I'm wrong.  

In that case you may be able to use it temporarily.  I'm sure Daiwa has it there for some reason.  8)

I have to go back to work or I would tear mine down and tell you what it does exactly.  I suspected it was to align the AR dog because it appears to only have threads on the end, looking at the schematic. WAG (wild azz guess).

EDIT:  I just had an 'aha' moment....If you go to the very first tutorial sticky in this (Daiwa) section, in an excellent photo thread by Alan T., scroll down and you will see exactly where it goes.

I was wrong about the dog. It sits on a threaded post. One of the (3) short screws holds it when the reel is assembled.

In any case, the screw you are missing holds the side plate to the set plate.  Any thanks deserved go to our fearless leader.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: pompano joe on July 31, 2017, 08:05:25 PM
Here's a Rock Cod Special I first built a couple of years ago.  Quickly changed hands from my son to a nearby charter captain, and target species from Shark to Grouper.  Capt. Josh liked it so much that I'm building him a boatload from the 400H's to these beasts.  This one has upgraded drag washers and bearings.  It's also been media blasted to a natural aluminum finish and clear coated.  I'll add an offset power handle and T-bar before it goes out.  Just had to have a pic with the "winch" handle. 
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Tightlines667 on July 31, 2017, 08:46:20 PM
Cool reel!

A custom job for a custom job.

John
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: ez2cdave on August 31, 2017, 06:43:45 PM


A while back I preserved this tutorial as a PDF file, which I had forgotten, unitl now !

Below is a PDF file of the DAIWA SEALINE 900H / 910H Tutorial for easy download . . . ENJOY !

Tight Lines !
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: OTR_ALLSTAR on December 06, 2017, 03:10:40 AM
Mr. Tani, are those Daiwa Sealine 900H 5+1 drag kits still available as well as the upgraded Kolekar grip?
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on December 06, 2017, 09:25:16 PM
Quote from: OTR_ALLSTAR on December 06, 2017, 03:10:40 AM
Mr. Tani, are those Daiwa Sealine 900H 5+1 drag kits still available as well as the upgraded Kolekar grip?


they are!  i will send a pm!
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: mitch27 on December 22, 2017, 04:52:13 PM
Hi Alan I would like to buy one 910 drag kit. <Address has been removed to protect the innocent> I'm in no hurry. I have your  address . Just PM me with the total and I will put a check in the mail. Thanks mitch27    these drag kits work great!!!!



Mitch, I had modified your posting removing your contact information.  I had sent Alan a private message with your address.  Bryan
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on December 22, 2017, 10:27:33 PM
I'll send it out tomorrow !
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: JasonD on January 14, 2018, 06:03:55 PM
Mr Tani are the 900H drags available? and the handle upgrade?
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on January 15, 2018, 03:28:27 AM
yes, got lots of everything!  send me a pm!
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: PietervdM04 on January 28, 2018, 06:42:17 PM
Hi Mr. Tani

Pieter from South Africa. Thanks for the drag and handle for my 900H.

No problems fitting it. Can not wait to go and put it to the test.

Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on January 28, 2018, 10:44:16 PM
glad it made it to you safely!
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Mackeral5 on February 10, 2018, 07:01:08 PM
Hi Alan, sending you a PM regarding a 900h drag kit.  thank you.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: nathanbailey1817 on March 05, 2018, 10:29:32 PM
Dumb question....where does the tiny fiber washer go?
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on March 05, 2018, 11:37:18 PM
If it's the one I'm thinking of,  it goes under the main gear.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on March 06, 2018, 12:20:25 AM
Nope, that stays!
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: nathanbailey1817 on March 06, 2018, 12:21:09 AM
Quote from: alantani on March 06, 2018, 12:20:25 AM
Nope, that stays!
Got it I think thank you!
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Wendell on October 02, 2018, 08:18:19 AM
Howzit Alan
I have a Daiwa 900h and I want to know how I can get that drag upgrade from you?
Thanks
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on October 02, 2018, 08:05:05 PM
email sent.  i'm having trouble connecting to the site.  been an issue for the last week.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: williewiskers on February 09, 2020, 08:18:58 PM
Alan,

Thanks for the 5+1 upgrade stack. It worked perfectly with the Cortez SS sleeve. The bridge post, dog and star are already stainless, so now the reel is a TANK.

I did have (6) extra parts in my reel that I dont see in the Daiwa schematics or your tutorial. My reel had small, white nylon washers on the (4) stand screws between the end plates and the frame and one small, metal toothed lock washer on each of the (2) rear frame screws between the end plates and the frame. There were no additional hardware at the locations with harness / brace lugs.

I reassembled the reel the way It came apart, but I am concerned that neither your tutorial pictures or the Daiwa 900H schematic shows these washers.

Anyone have any input?


Ty,
Willie
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Porthos on February 09, 2020, 08:36:40 PM
If the reel comes together tight without the washers then leave them off...loosen the spool tension cap before doing so.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: williewiskers on February 09, 2020, 09:35:02 PM
I comes together tight WITH them. I dont know if they're supposed to be there or not. Dont know for sure if theyre supposed to be there or not. I reason if they werent there the end plates would still come together due to the lip between the end cap and the frame, but there would be an unsupported span along the screw that the washer occupies - BUT, why arent these in the diagram?!

Willie
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: williewiskers on February 09, 2020, 10:11:18 PM
I just took it apart again, there is a gap that necessitates the washers. It appears im missing one... and the two that are toothed lock washers should also be nylon washers. Without the washers there would be a 1/32" gap between the end of the screw cavity in the cap and the start of the threaded hole in the frame. I took pictures but I dont know how to post them on here.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Porthos on February 10, 2020, 02:33:43 AM
Sounds like the screws are too long for the holes...possible if the 6 were non-Daiwa replacements of the right threading but had longer length.

Any objections to filing down those screws 1/16" off the ends?
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: williewiskers on February 10, 2020, 03:27:32 AM
I must not have been clear. The perimeter edges of the end caps seats 100% with the frame. As with three of the holes on each side - the (3) on each side  that DO NOT host the harness and brace lugs - there is a gap in the contact of the aluminum at the point where these (3) screws go through the end cap to the threaded holes in the frame that receive the 8-32 threaded screw. This is clearly by design and the nylon washers are required. I am concerned that I do not see them on them on the schematic. it may be that I have a very early reel. My capacity sticker lists line capacity for mono up to 130#.

I see how to post pictures now

Willie
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Porthos on February 10, 2020, 04:15:02 AM
Hi Willie,

OK, a picture is worth a thousand words. I do not believe that the washers really add anything significant to the structure integrity of the Sealines. Washers being there would not cause any harm either.

None of the smaller Sealines (largest being the 600H's modded with 5-stack CFs and delrins for 80lb and 100lb) in my lineup have ever had such washers, and they all have the same design of the side plate sitting on the outer rim of of the frame with a thin gap. The Sealine aluminum side plates have the structural integrity to withstand the pressure from tightened screws without the need of a "pillar"/washer bedding for support (unlike the Penn Mag Power's graphite plates).

Either way, it shouldn't be a matter of concern, IMHO.

Wai

Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: williewiskers on February 12, 2020, 05:17:40 PM
OK, thank you!
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Surfwrangler on November 08, 2022, 03:24:28 PM
Hey guys so I am breaking down a 910 that my buddy said was slipping a bit but I had previously installed a new grip on it and it seems to have some sort of top cap thingy on the top of the gear Sleave. I can't tell how I put it on there or how I can safely remove it without damaging anything. I think these parts were from Cortez, does anyone have any suggestions (see image)
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on November 08, 2022, 06:28:52 PM
it just unscrews.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Hamachi on November 08, 2022, 06:38:33 PM
The stock ones just pull straight off. It's like a cap that engages the flat sides of the gear sleeve, the handle nut holds it on if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Surfwrangler on November 08, 2022, 07:07:28 PM
Quote from: alantani on November 08, 2022, 06:28:52 PMit just unscrews.
Alan, so you think it just backs out like a regular bolt? i guess that makes most sense since the handle nut is reverse threaded. I will give a try after work. Be better I guess if I could just remember what did to begin with  :-[
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Surfwrangler on November 08, 2022, 07:15:25 PM
Couldnt wait, so leaned into it and it did indeed back off. Cheers to Alan and to the board as per usual, the best source for info on reels anywhere. I will be opening her up a bit this week and will post any pictures of wear that may be apparent. My buddy has been using it as a planer reel, and in spite of me telling him to let the planer out with the drag vs quickly engaging the clutch, he admitted to doing the later  >:(  So I am expecting the dog will have some wear and may need replacing. We will see.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Hamachi on November 08, 2022, 08:03:45 PM
I stand corrected. I guess my memory isn't what it used to be. It's only been about fifty years since rockcodding with this 910.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Surfwrangler on November 09, 2022, 03:57:09 PM
Ok so I opened her up this morning. Here are a few shots of what I found. I will defer to y'all's opinion here but other than a severely worn top keyed cf drag washer the rest of the internals show very nominal signs of wear. The dog and ratchet that I had been concerned with are not visibly damaged at all and both pinion and main gears are apparently just dandy. So my only guess as to what May have caused slipping is the spool tension knob potentially backed out so far that the gears were not engaging properly? Does that make sense? Do y'all have any other input as to what May have been going on with this reel (I was not present to witness said slipping)
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on November 10, 2022, 03:42:04 AM
hard to tell from the photos, but this does not look like a standard configuration.   :-\
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Hamachi on November 10, 2022, 06:18:12 AM
How's the under gear washer? In the second photo, there looks to be a piece of carbon fiber or something between the gears. There wasn't any debris that could impede the dog? Just trying to get my foot out of my mouth. Aftermarket drag stack for sure. Is that Lee's?yeah, that top carbon fiber washer probably wasn't properly nestled into the gear, or it climbed outa there from too much pressure. Might have just been a sticky dog in addition to the blown out drag washer.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: handi2 on November 10, 2022, 11:52:01 PM
Those drag kits are prone to failure. As soon as the ears are worn off the drag washers it will cease to work.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Hamachi on November 12, 2022, 02:21:13 AM
No bueno. Did you put Alan's drag stack as replacement, Keith?
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: handi2 on November 13, 2022, 10:04:40 PM
Yes i did. I still have one kit if anyone needs it. I have a couple of those reels too if needed.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: alantani on November 14, 2022, 06:14:16 PM
the 900h drag kits are no longer being made.  it was just too much hassle.   :-\
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: steelfish on November 15, 2022, 06:37:24 PM
Quote from: handi2 on November 10, 2022, 11:52:01 PMThose drag kits are prone to failure. As soon as the ears are worn off the drag washers it will cease to work.

WOOA, I Though this kits were the eighth wonder of the world and really surprise me, what kind of drag caused that much damage to the drag washer ears?

I was about to post a post asking for an Adam's kit for the 113h  :-\
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Porthos on November 17, 2022, 02:23:20 PM
Looks like a classic case of failure point transfer when "improvements" are introduced aftermarket. What was never a weak point became one...in this case the CF washer ears.

Would appear that the 5 round CF + 1 delrin config may be the one that balances best against the KISS principle while increasing the drag with less "surprises" in actual use.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: jurelometer on November 17, 2022, 05:22:01 PM
Quote from: Porthos on November 17, 2022, 02:23:20 PMLooks like a classic case of failure point transfer when "improvements" are introduced aftermarket. What was never a weak point became one...in this case the CF washer ears.

Would appear that the 5 round CF + 1 delrin config may be the one that balances best against the KISS principle while increasing the drag with less "surprises" in actual use.

Agree.  Maybe this customization just  went a bit too far.  Going from three (is that correct?) to seven CF washers requires some pretty thin material - not much room for the solid core  And does the reel need something like thirteen braking surfaces instead of the original three?  At some point, we reach diminishing returns.

If the washers are eared, the core has to be strong enough to withstand the shear load that is concentrated on a set of narrow ears  instead of spread out over the whole surface.

Making thicker/fewer CF washers might cure the problem, but making accurately dimensioned eared washers without weakening the cores is a bit of a pain.

-J
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: handi2 on November 17, 2022, 09:43:28 PM
The kit I have is from Alan Tani. It's not the versa type drag kit.

It has new metal washers to change the 3 thick to 5 HT-100's
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Donnyboat on November 17, 2022, 11:50:00 PM
I thought the metal washers are the same size as the Senator 9/0, also the 600H washer were the same size as the Senator 6/0 H, then buy some sheets of carbon fibre 1 mm or 0.75 mm & cut you them yourself, good luck, cheers Don.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: tomsatx on February 21, 2023, 04:30:30 PM
Quote from: Donnyboat on November 17, 2022, 11:50:00 PMI thought the metal washers are the same size as the Senator 9/0, also the 600H washer were the same size as the Senator 6/0 H, then buy some sheets of carbon fibre 1 mm or 0.75 mm & cut you them yourself, good luck, cheers Don.
Thanks Don. I'm on the hunt for a 600H to complete my arsenal of budget offshore reels and the tip for a compatable washers is much appreciated. Ive never cut washers but can give it a try.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: day0ne on February 21, 2023, 10:48:30 PM
Quote from: Donnyboat on November 17, 2022, 11:50:00 PMI thought the metal washers are the same size as the Senator 9/0, also the 600H washer were the same size as the Senator 6/0 H, then buy some sheets of carbon fibre 1 mm or 0.75 mm & cut you them yourself, good luck, cheers Don.

Not quite true for the 600H. The O.D. is the same but the I.D. of the Penn washers is larger and probably won't hold up. Don't know about the 900H. An alternative for the 600H is:

https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=4783.0

Something similar can probably be done with the 900H.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Rancanfish on February 22, 2023, 12:23:23 AM
I've got two upgraded 600's with 5 stacks and Tani handles if somebody will give me a decent offer.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: tomsatx on February 22, 2023, 02:24:55 AM
Quote from: Rancanfish on February 22, 2023, 12:23:23 AMI've got two upgraded 600's with 5 stacks and Tani handles if somebody will give me a decent offer.
Any photos? Send me a PM.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: Rancanfish on February 22, 2023, 03:59:46 AM
PM sent.

I looked on the 'bay' just now. Quite a few going pretty cheap. I can't believe such a quality reel can be had so inexpensively.
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: handi2 on February 22, 2023, 04:21:14 AM
This is one I would like to sell.

It's loaded with all of the goodie's

Just make a reasonable offer.

The shipping will be higher because of size and weight. It's has 35lbs of smooth drag. Line size unknown

Carbontex drag washers. Open bearings.

Will trade for little pond reels

THIS IS THE LARGER 910 reel. Sorry for the confusion,


Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: kentdalimp on October 25, 2023, 01:13:23 AM
Anyone still have an upgrade kit for the 910? I am hoping to find the 5 washers without having to engineer my own!
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on October 25, 2023, 01:31:58 AM
Do I really have the last one?
Title: Re: sealine 900h/910h
Post by: kentdalimp on October 25, 2023, 04:47:14 AM
Quote from: JasonGotaProblem on October 25, 2023, 01:31:58 AMDo I really have the last one?
I'm interested if you are willing to sell it!