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Title: Newell 400 series Aluminum Sideplates
Post by: Bryan Young on November 16, 2017, 10:24:50 PM
Hello. I know some of you have been waiting for these and here they are.

The price for the side plate kit is $160 plus $10 shipping per kit, and and additional $5 shipping for each additional kit shipped in the USA. Please contact me for international orders.

If you are interested in purchasing a kit or two, please send me a person message.

Thank you,
Bryan



Title: Re: Newell 400 series Aluminum Sideplates
Post by: Bryan Young on November 16, 2017, 10:32:43 PM
Each side plate set comes with the following parts:

10 side plate screws
2 upper and 2 lower bridgeplate screws
4 side plate crossbar plugs
4 crossbar filler plugs (smooth sided hex screws)
2 bearing cups (installed in both side plates)
2 ABEC5 stainless steel bearings (dry)
1 clicker spring and securement screw
2 reversible harness lugs/plugs
1 clicker tongue and button assembly
1 shift lever guard and screws (installed in the drive side plate)

Please see photo.


Title: Re: Newell 400 series Aluminum Sideplates
Post by: Swami805 on November 16, 2017, 10:53:21 PM
Wow just Wow! Next level in side plates. Hope they're available soon! Sign me up!Sheridan


Title: Re: Newell 400 series Aluminum Sideplates
Post by: Bryan Young on November 17, 2017, 04:57:45 AM
The crossbar and filler plug screws were created so that you may use different Newell bars, aluminum or composite.  Here are the composite bars being installed.


Title: Re: Newell 400 series Aluminum Sideplates
Post by: Bryan Young on November 17, 2017, 05:00:05 AM
With the aluminum bars installed


Title: Re: Newell 400 series Aluminum Sideplates
Post by: Bryan Young on November 17, 2017, 05:04:07 AM
The reversible lugs.


Title: Re: Newell 400 series Aluminum Sideplates
Post by: Bryan Young on November 17, 2017, 05:05:53 AM
The new eccentric lever cover.


Title: Re: Newell 400 series Aluminum Sideplates
Post by: Bryan Young on November 17, 2017, 05:11:00 AM
The building of the clicker assembly.

The clicker button followed by a Delrin washer. The button is then inserted in the sideplate followed by the Teflon washer, clicker tongue then e-clip.


Title: Re: Newell 400 series Aluminum Sideplates
Post by: Bryan Young on November 17, 2017, 05:14:20 AM
And the remaining clicker assembly


Title: Re: Newell 400 series Aluminum Sideplates
Post by: Bryan Young on November 17, 2017, 05:50:24 AM
One warning in the assembly is the eccentric spring may be sticking out too much and may need to be filed down a little so it does not contact the lug when the lug is in the plug configuration.

I'm not talking that much.  Maybe one or two strokes with a file. 


Title: Re: Newell 400 series Aluminum Sideplates
Post by: Yogi_fish808 on November 17, 2017, 06:26:26 PM
Bryan those crossbar filler studs are brilliant!


Title: Re: Newell 400 series Aluminum Sideplates
Post by: steelhead_killer on November 17, 2017, 06:29:13 PM
Sexy


Title: Re: Newell 400 series Aluminum Sideplates
Post by: Bryan Young on November 17, 2017, 06:48:05 PM
Bryan those crossbar filler studs are brilliant!

Thatís all Tom.


Title: Re: Newell 400 series Aluminum Sideplates
Post by: r8rs4lf on November 17, 2017, 08:25:11 PM
Pm sent.


Title: Re: Newell 400 series Aluminum Sideplates
Post by: Swami805 on November 21, 2017, 05:46:36 AM
I recieved my kits from Bryan yesterday and his pictures don't do them justice. I had some time to put one together on a narrow tiburon frame. Went together flawlessly ( did file the spring down a bit). I used a tiburon narrow frame, a shimano Trinidad handle, a motive fab star and a black Cortez conversion clicker. The guts are from a no letter 440 with 2 dogs. Also has Bryan's 5 stack drag.
Great free spool and buttery smooth.
Get them before they lr gone, you won't be dissapointed
I'll try and put another set on a stock newell tonight and get some pictures up
As a side note I weighted the side plates with the stock plates. The clicker side was a little bit lighter that stock, the handle side just a bit heavier. Overall weight difference is less than an ounce.
Here's a few pictures


Title: Re: Newell 400 series Aluminum Sideplates
Post by: Bryan Young on November 21, 2017, 06:06:47 AM
Thatís purdy.  Iím glad you like them. Tom does amazing work. Itís not easy to satisfy my build criteria. Iím planning to build my demo reel with red sideplates. 😁


Title: Re: Newell 400 series Aluminum Sideplates
Post by: Swami805 on November 23, 2017, 07:30:34 AM
I put together a stock Nl440 with a set of Bryan's custom plates. I use this reel for distance casting so I used the graphite spool and parts to keep it light. The kit went together with out a hitch. I was able to use the stock plastic clicker assembly since the spool has a graphite clicker gear. Everything fell right into place with no adjuments nessecary. Free spool for days. I'm trying  to figure out how to plug the holes where the cross bar should be since I run this reel and low drag numbers the cross bar isn't  nessecary. Any ideas would be appreciated.
If you're on the fence about buying a set don't be. I have accurate plates jvariance Cortez plates and these are  second to none. Every aspect has been well thought out. Going to give this one a test at the local pier this weekend for some slide fishing on my trusty calstar 540. Been getting a few white seabass and should be able to get the distance it hit my favorite honey hole.
I'll post up the results!
If you're not a Newell guy this might be the reel that makes you a convert.
If you are a Newell guy don't let this opportunity pass you by.
Just my 2 cents


Title: Re: Newell 400 series Aluminum Sideplates
Post by: Swami805 on November 23, 2017, 07:34:55 AM
Here's a few pictures. I use an iPhone so the chalky isn't great


Title: Re: Newell 400 series Aluminum Sideplates
Post by: PacRat on November 23, 2017, 08:39:41 AM
You can plug the cross-bar holes by fabricating lug blanks with smaller holes that you thread to fit the screw. The lug blank becomes a nut so it fills the slot and holds the screw in place to plug the screw hole. If you don't feel like fabricating a new lug blank from scratch you could weld the hole in your existing lug shut and re-drill it to the correct size and tap the threads. Your reels look great.
-Mike


Title: Re: Newell 400 series Aluminum Sideplates
Post by: Swami805 on November 23, 2017, 09:05:55 AM
Thanks, welding tapping etc. aren't really in my wheelhouse. I'm going to try something using a threaded inserts from a smaller newell, file down the corners of the hex head so it slides into the hole on the outside but they'll be screw head sticking out a bit on the inside. The stock lug has a bigger hole that the insert will go thru so it may work ok. I little screw head sticking out is still way better than the cross bar.
This isn't an issue with a tiburon frame,just if your using stock frame parts.
IS tapping a hole possible with a hand drill and a vice or do I need a drill press and all that?
Could I just tap the existing hole and use a bit bigger screw?
If I had an ounce of sense I'd use a tiburon frame I have sitting here, But what fun would that be? Right?
Thanks again for the suggestion


Title: Re: Newell 400 series Aluminum Sideplates
Post by: PacRat on November 23, 2017, 10:27:03 AM
I'll admit that the Tib frame is the logical way to go but the Newell bars look real good on your reel. I wouldn't recommend bigger screws because they would monkey up the anodizing. It is possible to drill and tap the lugs with a vice and hand drill but this will depend on your hand/eye coordination and ability to keep the drill perpendicular. You would want to keep the fit very accurate here.

A less difficult solution would be to cut your screws to length so they are flush to the inside of the plates (or a couple thousandths shorter). Then epoxy the lug blanks and screws in place. You can use clear epoxy or JB Weld (gray). Alcohol wipes will remove any extra epoxy from your side-plates before it cures. There are a couple of benefits to using epoxy, it will seal this area from saltwater and if you ever decide to revert to the original condition; a heat lamp and a turn of the screw will release it. Just be careful when cleaning the cured epoxy residue. Heat and a hard plastic scraper will remove most of the cured epoxy without scratching the anodizing.


Title: Re: Newell 400 series Aluminum Sideplates
Post by: Swami805 on November 23, 2017, 10:36:34 AM
Thank you, that sounds that a better way to go.


Title: Re: Newell 400 series Aluminum Sideplates
Post by: PacRat on November 23, 2017, 10:36:34 AM
After looking at Bryan's photos again I would change up the epoxy procedure just a bit. First I would grease the slots and lugs, and insert the lugs. Then clean the screw hole out with a Q-tip and solvent. Then use epoxy or JB Weld on the screw threads only. This should pin your lugs in place nicely and even if they were to come loose at some point it would not be difficult to re-epoxy them. They would also be much easier to remove when and if you ever want to.


Title: Re: Newell 400 series Aluminum Sideplates
Post by: Cortez_Conversions on November 23, 2017, 11:49:10 AM
Mike, are you going to run the harness lugs reversed in the plug position?
If so, I can probably make a little plug similar to the aluminum hex ones Newells have.
Tom


Title: Re: Newell 400 series Aluminum Sideplates
Post by: PacRat on November 23, 2017, 12:24:32 PM
Tom, I don't have one of Bryan's 400 kits...yet. I don't even have a donor reel to build one from. I was just offering some suggestions on how I would eliminate the cross-bar. But if I did have one I would be running the lugs in the reversed position. I tend to prefer the stock Newell frame over the Tib for casting because I like to thumb the spool flange which is a little difficult with the Tib.
-Mike


Title: Re: Newell 400 series Aluminum Sideplates
Post by: Swami805 on November 23, 2017, 12:25:15 PM
I was going to reverse the lugs thinking i could just round the corners a bit on the stock newell threaded inserts. Mikes idea sounds pretty good. I'm just trying to figure a way I can use the stock newell parts without the cross bar and plugging the holes somehow.


Title: Re: Newell 400 series Aluminum Sideplates
Post by: Bryan Young on November 23, 2017, 05:19:25 PM
Mike, are you going to run the harness lugs reversed in the plug position?
If so, I can probably make a little plug similar to the aluminum hex ones Newells have.
Tom

Hi Tom,

If you are going to make a couple, would you mind making me several sets. That would be awesome.

Thank you and happy thanksgiving.


Title: Re: Newell 400 series Aluminum Sideplates
Post by: Vintage Offshore Tackle on December 07, 2017, 03:40:05 PM
Bryan gave me permission to post this here.  If anyone interested in Bryan's Newell 400 series side plates might want a Tiburon frame or frame/spool kit, I have the N533NK narrow kits in red and purple.  For those looking for maximum line capacity, I can get the N550 kits in any of the standard Tiburon colors (red, black, silver, electric blue, cobalt blue, purple and green).  Kits in 440, 447 and 454 widths are also available.  So as not to clutter up Bryan's thread, please contact me by PM, email at rfpauly@aol.com, or phone or text at 805.748.9202 if you are interested.

Thank you,

Randy


Title: Re: Newell 400 series Aluminum Sideplates
Post by: Fishamen7 on June 21, 2019, 06:14:47 AM
Hello Bryan
I was wondering if there were any more of these Newell 400 plates available.
Thanks
Jason


Title: Re: Newell 400 series Aluminum Sideplates
Post by: Bryan Young on June 21, 2019, 08:58:21 AM
Hello Bryan
I was wondering if there were any more of these Newell 400 plates available.
Thanks
Jason

Hi Jason, 

I do.  I sent you a PM.

Thank you,
Bryan


Title: Re: Newell 400 series Aluminum Sideplates
Post by: TrulineGuy on June 21, 2019, 09:55:50 PM
Bryan Iíll take two kits in gold if available. Thx!


Title: Re: Newell 400 series Aluminum Sideplates
Post by: Bryan Young on June 22, 2019, 05:36:09 AM
Bryan Iíll take two kits in gold if available. Thx!
Thank you. I responded to your PM.