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Title: Garcia 3000 Spinning Reel
Post by: foakes on December 17, 2017, 05:43:35 AM
One of our members, PJ, sent me this reel to check over for him.

Lot of folks make fun of the Japanese Garcias -- but this is a very solid reel that will perform well.

He intended to use it for saltwater -- however, I recommended that it was not too suitable for salt -- so he wants to set it up as a lake reel.

It was dirty, and had the original factory grease inside, felt a little dried up -- however, it appears to have never been on a rod or fished.

These are not valuable reels, but they are of a good quality.   Metal frame, rotor, pinion ball bearing, aluminum spool, decent drag stack.  They fish well.

Disassembled, cleaned all parts, will install greased CF's plus a better under gear washer -- use modern lubes when ressembling -- it will be a flawless fresh water reel.

Best,

Fred



Title: Re: Garcia 3000 Spinning Reel
Post by: happyhooker on December 18, 2017, 03:15:55 AM
Looks like a steel main gear (or maybe duralumin) and a brass pinion.

Frank


Title: Re: Garcia 3000 Spinning Reel
Post by: Midway Tommy on December 18, 2017, 04:45:01 AM
It is definitely not steel. Mitchell reduced quality as time went on.


Title: Re: Garcia 3000 Spinning Reel
Post by: newfuturevintage on December 20, 2017, 08:57:43 PM
I recently picked up a pretty roached out Garcia 9000 at a fishing tournament from a free box in front of a neighbor's campsite. It was totally frozen, so I tore into it and was shocked to see how few parts and how chintzy they were when compared to Mitchells of similar size.

Of course, I cleaned, greased, and oiled it to see how it'd behave, and surprisingly, I think it'll be just fine for heavy freshwater and maybe light salt duty. I do need to replace the bearing as that's pretty rough feeling, but am in no hurry as this reel's definitely not going to see much use.

I fear may be a hoarder.


Title: Re: Garcia 3000 Spinning Reel
Post by: grekim on January 24, 2018, 02:59:42 AM
I just stumbled across this thread.  This is the one spinning reel I have been able to find from my grandfather.   I feel there may be more somewhere since he had several saltwater rods of different sizes.  In any case, this reel had no spool so I found another 3000 on ebay that happened to have an extra spool.  So, now I have two 3000's :)  Spins very smoothly, but I think I have to agree that it may be best kept as a lake reel.  Service was pretty straight forward as I recall.


Title: Re: Garcia 3000 Spinning Reel
Post by: Chuck750ss on January 29, 2018, 02:26:17 AM
Just picked one of these up. Wasnít wanting it. In fact, thought it was a 300. Of which I have several of. (Made in France Mitchell Garciaís) Paired up with a 550 Dam and a 2091-A Sea Wonder both of which I did want. So, looks like I made out better than I thought. 30$ delivered to my door for all three.
Reel needs cleaned and lubed. Other than that, it is fine.


Title: Re: Garcia 3000 Spinning Reel
Post by: happyhooker on January 30, 2018, 03:42:52 AM
Just picked one of these up. Wasnít wanting it. In fact, thought it was a 300. Of which I have several of. (Made in France Mitchell Garciaís) Paired up with a 550 Dam and a 2091-A Sea Wonder both of which I did want. So, looks like I made out better than I thought. 30$ delivered to my door for all three.
Reel needs cleaned and lubed. Other than that, it is fine.

That, mein kamerad, was a super deal.

Frank


Title: Re: Garcia 3000 Spinning Reel
Post by: Chuck750ss on January 30, 2018, 07:12:49 PM
Blind hog finds a acorn every now and then.


Title: Re: Garcia 3000 Spinning Reel
Post by: thorhammer on January 30, 2018, 08:40:21 PM
I recently picked up a pretty roached out Garcia 9000 at a fishing tournament from a free box in front of a neighbor's campsite. It was totally frozen, so I tore into it and was shocked to see how few parts and how chintzy they were when compared to Mitchells of similar size.

Of course, I cleaned, greased, and oiled it to see how it'd behave, and surprisingly, I think it'll be just fine for heavy freshwater and maybe light salt duty. I do need to replace the bearing as that's pretty rough feeling, but am in no hurry as this reel's definitely not going to see much use.

I fear may be a hoarder.


youre in the right place.....


Title: Re: Garcia 3000 Spinning Reel
Post by: Chuck750ss on January 31, 2018, 02:59:20 AM
It is definitely not steel. Mitchell reduced quality as time went on.

Tommy, mine is not magnetic. Donít see any casting marks.


Title: Re: Garcia 3000 Spinning Reel
Post by: newfuturevintage on January 31, 2018, 10:28:50 PM
I recently picked up a pretty roached out Garcia 9000 at a fishing tournament from a free box in front of a neighbor's campsite. It was totally frozen, so I tore into it and was shocked to see how few parts and how chintzy they were when compared to Mitchells of similar size.

Of course, I cleaned, greased, and oiled it to see how it'd behave, and surprisingly, I think it'll be just fine for heavy freshwater and maybe light salt duty. I do need to replace the bearing as that's pretty rough feeling, but am in no hurry as this reel's definitely not going to see much use.

I fear may be a hoarder.


youre in the right place.....

 ;D


Title: Re: Garcia 3000 Spinning Reel
Post by: Chuck750ss on February 02, 2018, 01:32:51 AM
Got mine cleaned and lubed. Not much cleaning to do. Whoever had it took pretty good care of it. Was not fished much. And the factory used a minimum amount of grease. Very smooth reel. Spool it with line. Ready to fish. Probably go ahead and install carbonex washers. Thought about skipping that, but I since I am going to fish with it might as well install them and be done with it.
Not a top notch reel, but not bad either. They could have spent a bit more on the reel and have a good as it gets reel.


Title: Re: Garcia 3000 Spinning Reel
Post by: MitchelGarcia on October 30, 2019, 05:35:22 AM
Perhaps not a reel of high pedigree, but have been blessed to use them for years. The higher retrieve speed works great on rivers and large creeks. They work great with 8 to 12lb mono. The biggest hard to land fish I have hauled in with them were Coho Salmon in SE Alaska. Great memories.


Title: Re: Garcia 3000 Spinning Reel
Post by: Ron Jones on October 30, 2019, 05:42:57 PM
I've been looking for the large skirted spool at a decent price for a while now. They always start out around 20 bucks and end up close to 100, so someone knows something. I've decided that my 499 is to good and to rare, it will hang on a wall.
The Man


Title: Re: Garcia 3000 Spinning Reel
Post by: thorhammer on October 31, 2019, 01:27:16 AM
489 but you know you are going there already


Title: Re: Garcia 3000 Spinning Reel
Post by: joe k on April 04, 2021, 11:25:29 AM
does anybody have a schematic with part numbers for garcia mitchell 3000 they could download or know of a site where i can download myself...joe


Title: Re: Garcia 3000 Spinning Reel
Post by: oldmanjoe on April 04, 2021, 12:23:39 PM
      https://www.mikesreelrepair.com/content/schematics/Ambassadeur_GARCIA3000Spinning_Schematic.pdf


Title: Re: Garcia 3000 Spinning Reel
Post by: joe k on April 04, 2021, 02:20:34 PM
thanks..i was not looking in abu on that site..looked for 1/2 hour in mitchell..got it saved now..


Title: Re: Garcia 3000 Spinning Reel
Post by: Gfish on April 04, 2021, 03:03:37 PM
Unless I'm missing something, the drag system on the Garcia 3000 looks superior to those of the M.G. 300's.
Could the 3000 have an aluminium alloy gear?