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Spinning Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Daiwa => Topic started by: The Fishing Hobby on December 22, 2017, 07:54:10 AM

Title: Daiwa 8600
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on December 22, 2017, 07:54:10 AM
I just uploaded a video about the old Daiwa 8600 reels. Thought I would post it here in case anyone needs to see how to put them together. The last part of the video shows reassembly in high speed but you can slow it down using YouTube's playback speed settings if you need to.
These are very nice reels. Worm gear drive with 3 ball bearings (1 on the pinion gear and 1 on each side of the main drive gear) and a 6 disk drag (Teflon/metal drag stack). Very similar to the old Penn Spinfishers with the exception of the two extra ball bearings. The handles even look very similar except for the grip.
If anyone knows anything about them, I would love to hear it!
Tight lines!
https://youtu.be/AeozEEIChMo (https://youtu.be/AeozEEIChMo)
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: mo65 on December 24, 2017, 05:58:18 PM
   Very interesting reel...thanks for the heads up! 8)
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: Chuck750ss on February 24, 2018, 12:52:30 PM
Thanks. Excellent video.
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: Wolli on February 24, 2018, 02:30:05 PM
good old times....

My first strong saltwater reel was a Daiwa GS9. Bought in 1972 and survived fishing in Bahamas and Sierra Leone and is still working.
Interesting to compare the gear with the Daiwa 7000HDF
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on February 24, 2018, 02:52:55 PM
I just recently picked up the 8100 which is the ultralight in this series and will be doing a video on that one too!
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: Chuck750ss on February 25, 2018, 05:27:04 PM
Quote from: The Fishing Hobby on February 24, 2018, 02:52:55 PM
I just recently picked up the 8100 which is the ultralight in this series and will be doing a video on that one too!
Looking forward to it. Might as well do one on the 8300 too,right? ;)
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on February 25, 2018, 09:59:29 PM
Quote from: Chuck750ss on February 25, 2018, 05:27:04 PM
Quote from: The Fishing Hobby on February 24, 2018, 02:52:55 PM
I just recently picked up the 8100 which is the ultralight in this series and will be doing a video on that one too!
Looking forward to it. Might as well do one on the 8300 too,right? ;)
That is definitely on the to do list!
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: basto on March 19, 2018, 10:16:47 PM
WOW!!  What an incredible reel. I did not know Daiwa ever made a worm gear drive spinner. Very desirable reel indeed. I have an ABU cardinal 5 with worm drive that was made in Japan.
Thanks very much for the video.
Basto 
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: Chuck750ss on March 20, 2018, 01:33:23 AM
Quote from: basto on March 19, 2018, 10:16:47 PM
WOW!!  What an incredible reel. I did not know Daiwa ever made a worm gear drive spinner. Very desirable reel indeed. I have an ABU cardinal 5 with worm drive that was made in Japan.
Thanks very much for the video.
Basto 

As good as the video is(and it is excellent!) you need to tear one down yourself to really appreciate this reel. Smooth as glass. Built extremely well. Solid as a rock. Don't care for the Teflon drags, but those are easy to replace.
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on March 20, 2018, 02:42:55 AM
I'm a big fan of the Japanese made Cardinal 3 and 4 myself. The Daiwa 8600 is really great too and more ruggedly built. The advantage of the Cardinals is a smoother drag, silent anti-reverse, better line lay and a bail that can be closed manually. The Daiwa advantages are an aluminum spool, more rugged build, easier maintenance and 3 ball bearings. Either reel is a keeper in my book! I couldn't pick one over the other personally. I'd put the Shakespeare 2052 and 2062 reels right up there with these reels too. Simple design smooth as glass.
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: CapeFish on March 20, 2018, 07:49:51 AM
I am not sure if I am just too rough with tackle but I had Daiwas, Mitchells, DAM, Point Sportsman, Silstar spinning reels I tried in the salt and every single one got wrecked in no time. Stripped gears, broken handles, corrosion corrosion and more corrosion and broken handles. As soon as I learnt too cast a multiplier I never used a spinning reel in the salt for 20+ years and it was the end of reel failures. Since last year though I have decided to take the plunge again and bought a few new ones to get full benefit spinning with braid, early days still, but so far so good except for a Fin nor Lethal 40 that had a frame failure and shaft bending. It still sort of works though after I replaced te frame but it is as rough as a goat's leg.
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on March 20, 2018, 04:06:30 PM
You shouldn't be able to strip the gears on a worm gear drive spinning reel...at least I wouldn't think it should be possible anyway. There are more than 2 teeth engaged at all times. Corrosion issues are hard to combat. I can see signs of corrosion under the paint on this Daiwa and on the leg and around the chrome on the handle. Of course this one was made in the 1960's so it is in good shape still for its age.
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: Midway Tommy on March 20, 2018, 05:14:39 PM
Other than cheap pot metal gearing, paint & chrome degradation were the biggest problems with many of the foreign made reels from the mid '50s through the early '70s, and Japan wasn't the only one that had adherence issues. As well made as Italian reels were, for some reason their chrome adhesion was terrible, and salt water wasn't the culprit. Normal wear & surface bubbling are two totally different issues and once the bubbling starts there's no cure short of stripping & resurfacing. I hate that problem.  :( 
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: happyhooker on March 20, 2018, 08:13:47 PM
Nice reel, and thanks for the video too.  The internals look like they'll last forever if periodically maintained.  The restrained silver/black color combo is real eye candy.  I noticed that the bail trip looks like it is cast into the frame, and that being aluminum, it hopefully won't have the issues with wear that foakes mentioned recently in a post about, I think it was, Shakespeare Royal Maroons.  When you were reassembling that area of the reel, I noticed some sort of plastic-looking "whatever" that was installed into that area of the reel--what was that and what purpose was it intended to serve?  It got screwed down when you tightened the last ball bearing retainer screw.

Frank
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on March 20, 2018, 08:23:18 PM
Quote from: happyhooker on March 20, 2018, 08:13:47 PM
Nice reel, and thanks for the video too.  The internals look like they'll last forever if periodically maintained.  The restrained silver/black color combo is real eye candy.  I noticed that the bail trip looks like it is cast into the frame, and that being aluminum, it hopefully won't have the issues with wear that foakes mentioned recently in a post about, I think it was, Shakespeare Royal Maroons.  When you were reassembling that area of the reel, I noticed some sort of plastic-looking "whatever" that was installed into that area of the reel--what was that and what purpose was it intended to serve?  It got screwed down when you tightened the last ball bearing retainer screw.

Frank
That part is a metal ramp that works the bail trip. There is no harshness to the bail trip at all because of that ramp. Bail trip is smooth as silk. Smoothest I have ever experienced on any reel.
I have seen other reels with a similar ramp but this one works the best out of the ones I have owned.
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: festus on May 21, 2018, 11:40:00 PM
I've never been a Daiwa fan but I happened to run across this ad in an old Field & Stream.  Reminds me of a D.A.M. Quick or an early Penn spinner on steroids.  :o Not much information available on the net on this series of Daiwas.
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on May 22, 2018, 12:13:18 AM
Yep, on steroids is right! They are really impressive if you are ever able to get your hands on one. I like the old C series Daiwa reels and these blow them out of the water. They are heavier built than the DAM quicks. The Penns remind me a lot of the old USA made Shakespeare worm drives and are great but these are even more ruggedly built than those. Very impressive reels
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: festus on May 22, 2018, 12:33:27 AM
Quote from: The Fishing Hobby on May 22, 2018, 12:13:18 AM
Yep, on steroids is right! They are really impressive if you are ever able to get your hands on one. I like the old C series Daiwa reels and these blow them out of the water. They are heavier built than the DAM quicks. The Penns remind me a lot of the old USA made Shakespeare worm drives and are great but these are even more ruggedly built than those. Very impressive reels
I saw several of your youtube videos and they had a big part of getting me re-interested in the old Shakespeare worm drive spinners.  I was a teenager when those reels first appeared in the 1960s. 

It'll probably take some time to find one of those Daiwas, nothing online right now for sale to speak of but I saw in the archives one went for well over a hundred bucks a while back.

Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on May 22, 2018, 12:51:03 AM
Wow! I think I paid $20something for that one on eBay a while back. I also picked up the 8100 ultralight as well. I use my Shakespeare 2052 quite a bit. It is so silky smooth and just a real pleasure to fish with.
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: festus on May 22, 2018, 01:01:15 AM
Maybe I was wrong, there is an 8600 out there for $120.  also a 8100 as a parts reel in a group of four old spinning reels.
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on May 22, 2018, 01:04:30 AM
There is a slightly larger reel too. I think it is an 8700 if I remember right. There is also an 8300. The 8300 is next on my wish list!
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: festus on May 22, 2018, 01:14:36 AM
Hmm. I keep looking and there are more than I thought on ebay..... :o  But I'm looking for two other reels  in particular first to complete collections then may pursue the Daiwas.
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: Chuck750ss on May 22, 2018, 04:16:23 PM
Quote from: The Fishing Hobby on May 22, 2018, 12:13:18 AM
Yep, on steroids is right! They are really impressive if you are ever able to get your hands on one. I like the old C series Daiwa reels and these blow them out of the water. They are heavier built than the DAM quicks. The Penns remind me a lot of the old USA made Shakespeare worm drives and are great but these are even more ruggedly built than those. Very impressive reels
Yup. The only reels from that time period that I have personally held in my hand that I find more impressive is the DAM "01" series. And you could still argue in favor of the Daiwa by virtue of the fact the 8600 main gear is supported on both sides by quality ball bearings. The reel could be classified as a much improved Penn 704. And we all know that reel has withstood the test of time.
I own 2 8600's. One with a box in good condition. The other had been subjected to salt and not cleaned. Outside looked very rough. BUT the inside was packed with grease and in excellent shape. I cleaned and painted the outside. Cleaned and lubed the internals with synthetic lube. And when I am able (house bound after surgery now) it is going catfishing! Going to try it with the original Teflon drags, then install carbonex drags to see how they perform compared to the Teflon. Note on these Teflon washers. They are definitely heavy duty washers.
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: Chuck750ss on May 22, 2018, 04:19:23 PM
Quote from: The Fishing Hobby on May 22, 2018, 01:04:30 AM
There is a slightly larger reel too. I think it is an 8700 if I remember right. There is also an 8300. The 8300 is next on my wish list!
I have not seen the 8700. Or found any information on this reel. You have any sources for information on this reel?
BTW, definitely want to add an 8300 and 8100. Passed on a couple I probably should have jumped on.
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on May 22, 2018, 04:24:24 PM
I have seen them online but I don't own one: https://m.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Daiwa-8700-3-Ball-Bearings-Fishing-Reel-/162896264662?_ul=AR&_mwBanner=1&_rdt=1#vi__app-cvip-panel
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: Chuck750ss on May 22, 2018, 04:45:24 PM
Quote from: The Fishing Hobby on May 22, 2018, 04:24:24 PM
I have seen them online but I don't own one: https://m.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Daiwa-8700-3-Ball-Bearings-Fishing-Reel-/162896264662?_ul=AR&_mwBanner=1&_rdt=1#vi__app-cvip-panel
Cool! Not listed on this page. If you don't mind, look though this and see if you find any other reels missing.
http://www.reelschematic.com/reel-schematics/daiwa-reel-schematics/daiwa-spinning-schematics/#gsc.tab=0
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: Midway Tommy on May 22, 2018, 04:48:52 PM
The 8700, and the 81, 83 & 8600s, were introduced in '69. The 8700 is 19oz, 8600 17oz, 8300 11oz & 8100 9oz. In '73 they modified a few things, mainly the handle, and added "A" after the numbers. In '79 they reduced quality, added "50HRL" and an 82 & 8450HRL, and moved manufacture to Korea. 

Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: Chuck750ss on May 22, 2018, 05:08:56 PM
Thanks Tommy. My 8600A has a cheaper made handle than the 8600. Not cheap but not as good as the original. Same ol story. Bean counters making the decisions. Why not keep quality up and offer a cheaper version as an option?
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on May 22, 2018, 06:45:55 PM
Quote from: Chuck750ss on May 22, 2018, 04:45:24 PM
Quote from: The Fishing Hobby on May 22, 2018, 04:24:24 PM
I have seen them online but I don't own one: https://m.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Daiwa-8700-3-Ball-Bearings-Fishing-Reel-/162896264662?_ul=AR&_mwBanner=1&_rdt=1#vi__app-cvip-panel
Cool! Not listed on this page. If you don't mind, look though this and see if you find any other reels missing.
http://www.reelschematic.com/reel-schematics/daiwa-reel-schematics/daiwa-spinning-schematics/#gsc.tab=0
I don't see the D1000 listed on that page. Very similar reel to the 1000X
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: Chuck750ss on May 23, 2018, 12:28:42 AM
Quote from: The Fishing Hobby on May 22, 2018, 06:45:55 PM
Quote from: Chuck750ss on May 22, 2018, 04:45:24 PM
Quote from: The Fishing Hobby on May 22, 2018, 04:24:24 PM
I have seen them online but I don't own one: https://m.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Daiwa-8700-3-Ball-Bearings-Fishing-Reel-/162896264662?_ul=AR&_mwBanner=1&_rdt=1#vi__app-cvip-panel
Cool! Not listed on this page. If you don't mind, look though this and see if you find any other reels missing.
http://www.reelschematic.com/reel-schematics/daiwa-reel-schematics/daiwa-spinning-schematics/#gsc.tab=0
I don't see the D1000 listed on that page. Very similar reel to the 1000X
Thanks once again. BTW, do you have any of the Daiwa 7000 series?
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on May 23, 2018, 01:49:54 AM
No problem, no7000 series stuff.
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: festus on June 05, 2018, 12:34:22 AM
Got an old interesting ad for this series of Daiwa here.
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on June 05, 2018, 12:38:36 AM
Nice
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: Chuck750ss on June 15, 2018, 07:36:58 PM
Just a FYI. Some spools for 8600/8700 are 3 drag, some are 6.
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on June 18, 2018, 10:12:50 PM
Quote from: Chuck750ss on June 15, 2018, 07:36:58 PM
Just a FYI. Some spools for 8600/8700 are 3 drag, some are 6.
Mine came with 6 even on the smaller 8100. 3 Teflon and 3 metal, very smooth drag setup. Any info on how to identify which ones had a 3 drag washer stack?
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: Reel 224 on June 18, 2018, 11:59:44 PM
I own the 9000DX surf reel and it is a beast!

Joe
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: Chuck750ss on June 19, 2018, 07:35:39 PM
Quote from: The Fishing Hobby on June 18, 2018, 10:12:50 PM
Quote from: Chuck750ss on June 15, 2018, 07:36:58 PM
Just a FYI. Some spools for 8600/8700 are 3 drag, some are 6.
Mine came with 6 even on the smaller 8100. 3 Teflon and 3 metal, very smooth drag setup. Any info on how to identify which ones had a 3 drag washer stack?
Nothing definite. 1st photo is 3 8700 spools. One on left is 3 drag. Other two are 6 drag. All share same part number .
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: Chuck750ss on June 19, 2018, 07:40:41 PM
8600. Two on left are 3 drag. One on right 6 drag. Two have same part number. Silver spool does not have a number.
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on June 19, 2018, 08:11:11 PM
The ones with the smaller drag clicker are all 6 drag washer spools then? That may be what to look for.
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: Chuck750ss on June 20, 2018, 01:57:54 AM
Quote from: The Fishing Hobby on June 19, 2018, 08:11:11 PM
The ones with the smaller drag clicker are all 6 drag washer spools then? That may be what to look for.
Good eye. Wasn't paying attention to that.
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: festus on March 16, 2019, 12:35:18 AM
About a week ago the USPS delivered this Daiwa 8300A from the big auction.  I didn't pay much, if I remember correctly the shipping cost more than the reel.  Nothing really attractive here externally, it's lost its medallion and it's scuffed a bit with some paint loss, but nothing wrong internally.

Sizewise it's about the same as a Shakespeare 2062, Mitchell 300, or D-A-M Quick 220.  Built similar to the Shakespeare and Quick with an extra ball bearing on the non-handle side of the main gear.  According to schematic it's rated for 200 yds. of 12 lb. mono.  It's a piece of cake servicing these, no snap ring to deal with on the pinion bearing and no rolled pin on the handle. No c-clips, either.  I lubed it up with Ardent Reel Butter and Ardent Reel Oil.  The a/r is similar to that of Penn greenie or Royal Maroon Shakespeare.  The clicker on the a/r is very quiet.  Probably smoother than the Shakes or Quicks.  I've never owned a Penn greenie so I don't know they'd compare.

This reel will be one of my go to candidates for bank fishing around rocks or mud that calls for rigs I won't give a hoot about getting scratched or dirty.

Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on March 16, 2019, 01:01:40 AM
Congratulations on the reel! They are a really nice series of reels for sure. They aren't very sought after by collectors so you can pick up some bargains. The maroon Shakespeare reels are a puzzle to me. They are such great reels but still available at great prices. I guess that they must have made so many they aren't rare enough to command high prices? They sure are nice reels!
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: Midway Tommy on March 16, 2019, 02:25:20 AM
Looks like pretty good quality, Chester. It should serve you well.
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: festus on May 09, 2019, 11:09:48 PM
Instead of starting a new thread, I'll post these pics in the original by The Fishing Hobby.

I got this Daiwa 8600 on eBay in a lot of 9 assorted spincasters, baitcasters, and spinners.  All reels averaged $4.75 shipped each.

It was scuffed and dirty, handled turned very stiffly, needed serviced very badly.
(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/17863_09_05_19_3_41_15.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/17863_09_05_19_3_41_38.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/17863_09_05_19_3_42_07.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/17863_09_05_19_3_42_33.jpeg)

Wouldn't doubt it had ever been serviced.
(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/17863_09_05_19_3_42_57.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/17863_09_05_19_3_43_21.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/17863_09_05_19_3_43_45.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/17863_09_05_19_3_44_09.jpeg)

Cleaning this one was a chore.  Lacquer thinner, Simple Green, and Dawn dishwashing detergent took care of it.
(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/17863_09_05_19_3_44_34.jpeg)

Reinstalling bail trip lever and spring.
(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/17863_09_05_19_3_45_01.jpeg)

Used Ardent Reel Butter reel oil on the bearings.  This reel had one pinion bearing and two bearings on the main gear.
(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/17863_09_05_19_3_45_24.jpeg)

Almost got it back together.
(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/17863_09_05_19_3_45_47.jpeg)

Still scratched and scuffed and definitely not a looker but this reel will be fished.  It's missing a side plate screw I can probably find either in the laundry room or garage.
(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/17863_09_05_19_3_46_16.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/17863_09_05_19_3_46_50.jpeg)

These reels weigh 18.4 oz not including line, and are approximately the same size as a D-A-M Quick 440 or a Shakespeare 2081-A.  They should be able to handle many of the larger freshwater species such as catfish, striped bass, carp, buffalo, drum, lake trout, and paddlefish.

Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on May 09, 2019, 11:20:02 PM
Quote from: festus on May 09, 2019, 11:09:48 PM
Instead of starting a new thread, I'll post these pics in the original by The Fishing Hobby.

I got this Daiwa 8600 on eBay in a lot of 9 assorted spincasters, baitcasters, and spinners.  All reels averaged $4.75 shipped each.

It was scuffed and dirty, handled turned very stiffly, needed serviced very badly.
(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/17863_09_05_19_3_41_15.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/17863_09_05_19_3_41_38.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/17863_09_05_19_3_42_07.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/17863_09_05_19_3_42_33.jpeg)

Wouldn't doubt it had ever been serviced.
(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/17863_09_05_19_3_42_57.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/17863_09_05_19_3_43_21.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/17863_09_05_19_3_43_45.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/17863_09_05_19_3_44_09.jpeg)

Cleaning this one was a chore.  Lacquer thinner, Simple Green, and Dawn dishwashing detergent took care of it.
(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/17863_09_05_19_3_44_34.jpeg)

Reinstalling bail trip lever and spring.
(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/17863_09_05_19_3_45_01.jpeg)

Used Ardent Reel Butter reel oil on the bearings.  This reel had one pinion bearing and two bearings on the main gear.
(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/17863_09_05_19_3_45_24.jpeg)

Almost got it back together.
(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/17863_09_05_19_3_45_47.jpeg)

Still scratched and scuffed and definitely not a looker but this reel will be fished.  It's missing a side plate screw I can probably find either in the laundry room or garage.
(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/17863_09_05_19_3_46_16.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/27/17863_09_05_19_3_46_50.jpeg)

These reels weigh 18.4 oz not including line, and are approximately the same size as a D-A-M Quick 440 or a Shakespeare 2081-A.  They should be able to handle many of the larger freshwater species such as catfish, striped bass, carp, buffalo, drum, lake trout, and paddlefish.


That looks like it cleaned up well! The history marks are no big deal  ;D
Hope you like it, they are very good quality reels!
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: happyhooker on May 10, 2019, 02:13:32 AM
Nice work, festus.  Impressive reel.  I noticed on one of the old ads that Daiwa had a lifetime warranty on the 8600 (maybe others too) & I wonder what hassles might result to enforce that warranty today.

Frank
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on May 10, 2019, 02:16:57 AM
Quote from: happyhooker on May 10, 2019, 02:13:32 AM
Nice work, festus.  Impressive reel.  I noticed on one of the old ads that Daiwa had a lifetime warranty on the 8600 (maybe others too) & I wonder what hassles might result to enforce that warranty today.

Frank
Haha! I don't know...mine is still working as it should  ;D
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: Midway Tommy on May 10, 2019, 02:17:21 AM
Well done, Chester!
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: Silvers on September 08, 2019, 08:43:56 PM
Quote from: happyhooker on May 10, 2019, 02:13:32 AM
Nice work, festus.  Impressive reel.  I noticed on one of the old ads that Daiwa had a lifetime warranty on the 8600 (maybe others too) & I wonder what hassles might result to enforce that warranty today.

Frank

Correct..here is a picture of it, its for all of the 8000s not only 8600 ;)
(http://eimernase.de/vintage-reels/Daiwa8000s.jpg)
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: Realfunone on November 08, 2019, 04:00:22 AM
Ha I still have mine from 72? I bought it with blue chip stamps. It's in good condition. It brings back memories of bonito fishing from the jetty in Redondo.
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on November 08, 2019, 05:07:24 AM
Quote from: Realfunone on November 08, 2019, 04:00:22 AM
Ha I still have mine from 72? I bought it with blue chip stamps. It's in good condition. It brings back memories of bonito fishing from the jetty in Redondo.
Dust it off, clean it up and put some line on it...take it out for old times sake every once in a while! Well built reels, no doubt about it 👍
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: mo65 on November 08, 2019, 02:06:52 PM
   I have been lurking for a good deal on one of these 8000 series reels for what seems like ages. In the meantime, I have discovered some equally impressive old reels for much less. It makes you wonder...take two equally impressive reels...why does one reel become rock star famous while the other becomes obscure?
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: foakes on November 08, 2019, 02:25:29 PM
Quote from: mo65 on November 08, 2019, 02:06:52 PM
   I have been lurking for a good deal on one of these 8000 series reels for what seems like ages. In the meantime, I have discovered some equally impressive old reels for much less. It makes you wonder...take two equally impressive reels...why does one reel become rock star famous while the other becomes obscure?

Maybe because "Rock Star Famous" is for the general angling public --

Because we do this all of the time, we might tend to forget...the things you guys (on our Alan Tani Site) know about what makes reels tick -- involve more than just looks and function...

Most of the folks who are regular readers and contributors on our site -- likely know 10 times more about 100 various reels -- from the engineering, quality of materials, to being able to break them down for repair & service quickly and effectively.

YOU are the experts that folks respect and listen to...

You are "Reel Ninjas"!

Best, Fred
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on November 08, 2019, 03:40:01 PM
The 8000 series Daiwa reels used to go for peanuts. I noticed about 6 months after I uploaded that initial video I did about the 8600 the prices had gone way up on feebay. Could be coincidence, but I've noticed when reels get talked about a little online, the prices go up soon after.
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: festus on November 08, 2019, 04:14:56 PM
Lately they're asking 90 bucks or more for these reels.  l was lucky to get a couple of rough looking ones that work very well for under $10 each.
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on November 08, 2019, 05:25:29 PM
Those were reel ( :D ) bargains!
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: Midway Tommy on November 08, 2019, 07:30:59 PM
Most average fisher people have no clue what's inside a spinning reel, or any concept about where quality lies until someone with a little knowledge points it out. I've been messing with spinners my entire life and never felt the urge to check into some of those higher quality '60s/'70s Japanese made reels. Never had a clue that the South Bend Gladding 900 series' had decent quality worm gear design until you gents opened one up. Learn something new everyday, as the saying goes. I figured all Asian made SBs were junk like the 725A I inherited back in about 1970.   :D 
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: mo65 on November 08, 2019, 07:47:52 PM
Quote from: Midway Tommy on November 08, 2019, 07:30:59 PM
Never had a clue that the South Bend Gladding 900 series' had decent quality worm gear design until you gents opened one up. Learn something new everyday, as the saying goes.

   I hear ya brother! That's pretty much what happened to me on these 8000 series Daiwas. I must have been tinkering with one of my other frankenheros when Kevin posted this video. By the time I got hip to the situation...prices had tripled! But hey...watcha gonna do? If we didn't talk about these reels and share knowledge, collecting wouldn't be near as interesting. I'll eventually nab one. 8)

   
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: festus on November 09, 2019, 12:28:05 AM
There was a Daiwa 8600 in a group of parts reels a few days ago that could've been had, but I didn't see anything else worthwhile except the Zebco.  $7.50 plus $12.95 shipping.
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: Midway Tommy on November 09, 2019, 03:20:03 AM
They say those gold 6000 series Zebcos are supposed to be a fairly decent reel. I don't know, though, as I've never had one in my hand. They're basically the same reel as the blueish gray Zebco Sterlings, just a different color. 
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: Riy2018 on April 28, 2020, 09:07:28 PM
Im looking to find only catalog of Daiwa Spinning Reels.
As I understood the 8600 was the biggest size?
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: mo65 on April 28, 2020, 11:42:48 PM
Quote from: Riy2018 on April 28, 2020, 09:07:28 PM
Im looking to find only catalog of Daiwa Spinning Reels.
As I understood the 8600 was the biggest size?

   The 8700 is the largest...I learned the hard way. 8)

https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=30159.0
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: basto on January 26, 2022, 11:18:57 PM
If there are any Aussies out there reading this, there are two very nice 8300A reels on very nice 2 piece rods 6.5 ft long for sale on GUMTREE Australia for $!00.
The man said he would sell them separately.
I would buy one combo if they were not left hand wind only. I prefer to wind any reel with my right hand.Yes, this has prevented me from missing out on many great older spin reels that are not ambidextrous.
Thank heavens the DAM QUICK 001 series and the ABU Cardinal green series are ambidextrous.
Greg
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: foakes on January 26, 2022, 11:29:50 PM
I don't think the green series ABU Cardinal's are ambidextrous, Greg —

But you are right on the DAM Quicks — with a few exceptions — most will easily switch from left hand to right hand.

Hope someone on here gets those 8300's!

Best, Fred
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: basto on January 27, 2022, 03:13:53 AM
Quote from: foakes on January 26, 2022, 11:29:50 PM
I don't think the green series ABU Cardinal's are ambidextrous, Greg —

But you are right on the DAM Quicks — with a few exceptions — most will easily switch from left hand to right hand.

Hope someone on here gets those 8300's!

Best, Fred


Hi Fred
My Cardinal 5 is made in Japan. It is an ABU GARCIA. On the plastic bung that screws onto the side you don't want the handle,
it says HANDLE CONVERTABLE
cheers
Greg
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: Midway Tommy on January 27, 2022, 04:57:30 AM
The Japanese made ABU/Garcia fulcrum brake mostly Black C & Greenline and Green & Cream Special Cardinals are ambidextrous. The Swedish made ABU/Zebco Green & Cream & Brown & Tan and ABU Green & Cream & Tan & Black fulcrum brakes are not.
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: basto on January 27, 2022, 09:07:04 PM
I bought another 7850HRL. This one is brown and in nice condition and is ambidextrous. I don't know why Daiwa did not continue the anti reverse system on
this reel. In my opinion it is better than the system on the 8000 series.
The drag on the 7850HRL is not much, but I have plans for that.
Greg
Title: Re: Daiwa 8600
Post by: foakes on January 27, 2022, 09:51:03 PM
Quote from: basto on January 27, 2022, 03:13:53 AM
Quote from: foakes on January 26, 2022, 11:29:50 PM
I don't think the green series ABU Cardinal's are ambidextrous, Greg —

But you are right on the DAM Quicks — with a few exceptions — most will easily switch from left hand to right hand.

Hope someone on here gets those 8300's!

Best, Fred

Right, Greg —

I thought you meant the green Cardinals that were Swedish Manufactured.

Best, Fred


Hi Fred
My Cardinal 5 is made in Japan. It is an ABU GARCIA. On the plastic bung that screws onto the side you don't want the handle,
it says HANDLE CONVERTABLE
cheers
Greg