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Title: Hex Clickers
Post by: Swami805 on December 30, 2017, 04:07:31 PM
How long did penn use Hex clickers and did they only come on certain reels? Tried searching on here but couldn't find much. Thanks
Title: Re: Hex Clickers
Post by: Bryan Young on December 30, 2017, 04:29:24 PM
I've only seen them on Newell spools.
Title: Re: Hex Clickers
Post by: Swami805 on December 30, 2017, 05:25:48 PM
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Title: Re: Hex Clickers
Post by: Tightlines667 on December 30, 2017, 09:11:27 PM
I have seen them on prewar Sea Gates, and my early 149.  I think they showed up ca. 1941/42ish on a few lower end models.  I don't think I've one on a post war reel.
Title: Re: Hex Clickers
Post by: Penn Chronology on February 18, 2018, 07:53:49 AM
QuoteHow long did penn use Hex clickers and did they only come on certain reels? Tried searching on here but couldn't find much. Thanks

I would say they were used mostly on the 1941 Sea Gate Model. In my opinion, that is where they actually belonged. I know they pop up on Long Beach's, and the Deep Sea narrow reels; but, I really feel that when you see a hex clicker on any reel other than a 1941 Sea Gate, it is an accident that it got put there.
Title: Re: Hex Clickers
Post by: Caranx on February 18, 2018, 08:35:33 AM
Bryan is right, I have a Newell Yellowfin Special spool that has the hex clicker on it.
That's the only one I have seen.
Title: Re: Hex Clickers
Post by: coastal_dan on February 19, 2018, 05:26:35 PM
I've had a couple Delmar's and 249's with them.  I'll see if I can find some photos...no longer own the reels.
Title: Re: Hex Clickers
Post by: Penn Chronology on February 20, 2018, 05:41:00 AM
QuoteI've had a couple Delmar's and 249's with them.  I'll see if I can find some photos...no longer own the reels.

Yes, that does not surprise me. They were spread around among the models.
Title: Re: Hex Clickers
Post by: 1badf350 on October 31, 2021, 02:32:19 PM
Here's one on an early 4/0
Title: Re: Hex Clickers
Post by: PacRat on October 31, 2021, 05:04:08 PM
Chris,
I think they're talking about the click-star on the spool shaft. I first saw these on Newells but I don't remember which ones. I'm curious about the purpose of the hex vs star. Possibly the hex has less resistance to letting line out? It definitely has it's own unique sound.

(https://alantani.com/gallery/35/14769_31_10_21_6_47_16_35690718.jpeg)

Mike
Title: Re: Hex Clickers
Post by: Deepennz on October 31, 2021, 06:53:38 PM
Hi Chris,
Very nice reel - we have parallel collections!
I have been specifically looking for those 1941 reels with those hex clickers - they are important because they help document a specific point in time - Mid 1941 - when we can say" all these reels were made over the same time period".
Quite a few of these Hex clicker reels also came with those rose wood handles.
Here is the list of the Hex clicker reels I have found so far -
Seagate -  always with the wooden handle
LB 60 - I have not seen an LB65 with one - has anyone got one?
#85,
#285
#285 wide - these are the earliest of the #286 style reels
#286 - these must have been introduced in that mid 1941 period - helps explain why they are not in the catalogues.
Surfmaster 200 - These are interesting because they have the same size tailplate as the s/master 150, but I have not seen one on a #150. has anybody got one?
Surfmaster 250
Senator 4/0 - as above
Penn #49 - I bought one off Mike C - a little bit special!!
Penn #149 - I picked one up from Ray's (superhook) collection
I don't have a 249 with a hex clicker - I am aware they exist - the hunt continues!!
So - that is 12 known hex clicker reels, and 2 possibles.
I also have #155's, #160's and #165's with rose wood handles - there is a possibility that there exists some with Hex clickers?

Cheers
Martin





Title: Re: Hex Clickers
Post by: PacRat on October 31, 2021, 07:02:00 PM
I just went back to the beginning of this thread and we are discussing apples vs oranges or click buttons vs click gears. I'm still interested in why the hex click gears. Maybe we need to separate this thread? I'll leave my original post up for clarification.

Mike
Title: Re: Hex Clickers
Post by: 1badf350 on October 31, 2021, 09:43:48 PM
Martin I see what you mean about the wood knobs. I have another 4/0 with hex clicker. Not as nice as the one I posted earlier but like you said it has a smooth counterweight handle with wood knob, unplated spool, and external drags. These are the only two 4/0 Senators I've ever seen with hex clicker.
Title: Re: Hex Clickers
Post by: Deepennz on October 31, 2021, 11:25:40 PM
Hi Chris,
Those rose wood handles intrigue me too. They also act as a time marker - they only seem to have been used for a short time over that same mid 1941 time frame.
I have found them on the Long beaches, Delmars, #49's, #149's (both with hex clickers), the light casting reels as mentioned above, and all the Senators from the 4/0 up to, and including, the 12/0's.
What is especially interesting about the Senators is that all these Senators, like your 4/0's, are 2nd Gen reels - and all still have drilled spools, and that thicker brass plate used on the drag stars, and handle blades.
All good fun!!

Cheers
Martin
Title: Re: Hex Clickers
Post by: milne on November 02, 2021, 03:04:07 AM
Interesting...
I have a hex clicker on a Seagate,,
But I also have the Hex Clicker on a Long Beach LS, again, there packed away, from memory it may be the 60LS and again from memory, it has the rosewood type handle....


Col
Title: Re: Hex Clickers
Post by: milne on November 02, 2021, 03:11:34 AM
Quote from: milne on November 02, 2021, 03:04:07 AM
Interesting...
I have a hex clicker on a Seagate,,
But I also have the Hex Clicker on a Long Beach LS, again, there packed away, from memory it may be the 60LS and again from memory, it has the rosewood type handle....


Col


PS  Chris, that 4/0 is a Ripper !!!  I have a 1st Gen 4/0 with the waffle clicker  but definitely on the look now for one with a hex clicker, way cool....
Title: Re: Hex Clickers
Post by: 1badf350 on November 02, 2021, 05:51:55 PM
Thanks Col! Thanks everyone!
Title: Re: Hex Clickers
Post by: Penn Chronology on November 15, 2021, 03:56:30 PM
QuoteWhat is especially interesting about the Senators is that all these Senators, like your 4/0's, are 2nd Gen reels - and all still have drilled spools, and that thicker brass plate used on the drag stars, and handle blades

This is one of those events that makes collecting early Penn reels so interesting. The rule of thumb most collectors use is the catalog. Those publications give collectors a flow of information that we expect to be dependable, not always the case though. In the case of early first and second generations Senators, the catalogs are actually misleading. I assume that happened because of the interruption of WW II.