I have been using mineral spirits to degrease my gears...question is,,do mineral spirits leave behind a film or"residue"that I need to get off with something else? I am asking because I notice that sometimes it seems as if the marine grease I use doesn't stay very well after a bunch of turns of the handle..it looks like almost no grease is there,just very wet looking. Thoughts?
I wash the parts off with hot water. Sometimes ill add some Dawn soap.
Quote from: Scattergun2570 on April 29, 2018, 06:21:47 AM
I have been using mineral spirits to degrease my gears...question is,,do mineral spirits leave behind a film or"residue"that I need to get off with something else? I am asking because I notice that sometimes it seems as if the marine grease I use doesn't stay very well after a bunch of turns of the handle..it looks like almost no grease is there,just very wet looking. Thoughts?
That's why I'm not fond of mineral spirits as a degreaser. The only times I ever use mineral spirits is on painted or plastic parts, & that is seldom, at best.
Washing-up liquid (whatever kind the wife buys :-\) or IPA (not the best grease solvent maybe but dosen't leave a residue :) The us bath is also used.
On spinning reels once you put it together and then take it apart all the grease will be in the center of the gear. It will look like none is on the teeth but there is enough.
Quote from: handi2 on April 29, 2018, 07:18:42 PM
On spinning reels once you put it together and then take it apart all the grease will be in the center of the gear. It will look like none is on the teeth but there is enough.
It's a conventional...but I think I will start using Dawn
Reading thru this I have some gear sleeves I need to get degreased with no kind of residue. I have acetone, IPA and aerisol carburator cleaner handy. Which one of those will leave the least residue or do I need something else? I don't have access to a US cleaner. Thanks
pure acetone -- no residue
nail polish remover -- who knows what additives?
Sheridan try the carb cleaner to get clean as possible, then acetone, which is considered the "universal solvent" by chemists and shouldn't leave a residue. IPA isn't going to cut much grease.
Thanks, the parts I'm starting with are pretty clean so i'll try acetone, Batch 2 are pretty grungey so I'll double dip!
Quote from: philaroman on March 29, 2019, 12:46:05 AM
pure acetone -- no residue
nail polish remover -- who knows what additives?
As it happens, I do...nail polish remover typically will only have color (non-issue) and fragrance (essential oils are great solvents unto themselves) as significant adds, (rest is Marketing pixie dust, like a little aloe), besides water....so straight acetone is less polar and thus a better grease cutter. that said NPR takes off lacquer, which is a bit more pervasive than grease / oil. Acetone is cheaper and wont get you in trouble with wife. Most acetone, at least in the US is derived from benzene, a great solvent but not one you want to play much with. Acetone here typically is below 25ppm benzene.
John
John
I'll throw my tow cents in the mix. I found that simple green and rescue rust in 2 to 1 works in my UC very well. I have yet to find grease that it doesn't remove. the Ultra Sonic cleaner is the key.
Joe
Quote from: Reel 224 on March 29, 2019, 01:30:12 PM
I'll throw my tow cents in the mix. I found that simple green and rescue rust in 2 to 1 works in my UC very well. I have yet to find grease that it doesn't remove. the Ultra Sonic cleaner is the key.
Joe
Joe,
Is this the stuff you are referring to:
https://www.armorvci.com/resources/armor-media/metal-rescue-rust-remover/
Thanks,
Frank
Thanks for the replies, I sprayed them with carb cleaner in a small jar and used the poormans US cleaner (I swirled them around in the jar for awhile). Dropped them in a jar of acetone last night and there they sit. I'll hit them with a toothbrush and acetone later, then dawn and water rinse. That oughta get it. Thanks again
Quote from: Frank on March 29, 2019, 04:50:06 PM
Quote from: Reel 224 on March 29, 2019, 01:30:12 PM
I'll throw my tow cents in the mix. I found that simple green and rescue rust in 2 to 1 works in my UC very well. I have yet to find grease that it doesn't remove. the Ultra Sonic cleaner is the key.
Joe
Joe,
Is this the stuff you are referring to:
https://www.armorvci.com/resources/armor-media/metal-rescue-rust-remover/
Thanks,
Frank
Sorry Frank, It is called Evopo-rust and it's sold In Walmart, https://www.theruststore.com/Evapo-Rust-Gallon-P1C1.aspx And Amazon
Quote from: Swami805 on March 29, 2019, 06:59:02 PM
Thanks for the replies, I sprayed them with carb cleaner in a small jar and used the poormans US cleaner (I swirled them around in the jar for awhile). Dropped them in a jar of acetone last night and there they sit. I'll hit them with a toothbrush and acetone later, then dawn and water rinse. That oughta get it. Thanks again
why ??? whatever you use for initial soaking/cleaning,
pure acetone is the perfect final rinse (for metal!) -- it leaves NOTHING on the surface
Quote from: Reel 224 on March 29, 2019, 07:20:48 PM
Quote from: Frank on March 29, 2019, 04:50:06 PM
Quote from: Reel 224 on March 29, 2019, 01:30:12 PM
I'll throw my tow cents in the mix. I found that simple green and rescue rust in 2 to 1 works in my UC very well. I have yet to find grease that it doesn't remove. the Ultra Sonic cleaner is the key.
Joe
Joe,
Is this the stuff you are referring to:
https://www.armorvci.com/resources/armor-media/metal-rescue-rust-remover/
Thanks,
Frank
Sorry Frank, It is called Evopo-rust and it's sold In Walmart, https://www.theruststore.com/Evapo-Rust-Gallon-P1C1.aspx And Amazon
Okay Joe, thank you.
Frank
Quote from: philaroman on March 29, 2019, 09:42:33 PM
Quote from: Swami805 on March 29, 2019, 06:59:02 PM
Thanks for the replies, I sprayed them with carb cleaner in a small jar and used the poormans US cleaner (I swirled them around in the jar for awhile). Dropped them in a jar of acetone last night and there they sit. I'll hit them with a toothbrush and acetone later, then dawn and water rinse. That oughta get it. Thanks again
why ??? whatever you use for initial soaking/cleaning, pure acetone is the perfect final rinse (for metal!) -- it leaves NOTHING on the surface
Acetone Also will cause liver cancer. Check the Right to Know guide.
Joe
Naphtha will usually do the job and is easier to handle.
-steve
Quote from: Reel 224 on March 30, 2019, 02:31:07 AM
Quote from: philaroman on March 29, 2019, 09:42:33 PM
Quote from: Swami805 on March 29, 2019, 06:59:02 PM
Thanks for the replies, I sprayed them with carb cleaner in a small jar and used the poormans US cleaner (I swirled them around in the jar for awhile). Dropped them in a jar of acetone last night and there they sit. I'll hit them with a toothbrush and acetone later, then dawn and water rinse. That oughta get it. Thanks again
why ??? whatever you use for initial soaking/cleaning, pure acetone is the perfect final rinse (for metal!) -- it leaves NOTHING on the surface
You mean if it contacts skin and seeps into your pores? Or by breathing in its fumes?
Acetone Also will cause liver cancer. Check the Right to Know guide.
Joe
I use this, hope it doesn't damage my internal parts ??? ??? ???
WD-40 also offers Specialist in a pump bottle form which is a milder product, I use in for the Lathe cleanup, it smells pleasant and does a decent job.
https://www.amazon.com/WD-40-Specialist-Industrial-Strength-Cleaner-Degreaser/dp/B07228GR2B/ref=sr_1_16?hvadid=176347134423&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9003675&hvnetw=s&hvpos=1t2&hvqmt=e&hvrand=16728275490745878352&hvtargid=kwd-33121588167&keywords=wd-40+specialist&qid=1554824044&s=gateway&sr=8-16
Joe
You good people have covered it all, I would be careful of acetone, on plastic parts, cheers Don.
I think Mike has the best solution for cleaning reels Dawn, baking soda and water.
Joe
correct Joe, x2 cheers Don.
Quote from: Reel 224 on April 09, 2019, 06:57:18 PM
I think Mike has the best solution for cleaning reels Dawn, baking soda and water.
Joe
Dawn mixed with baking soda?
Quote from: Scattergun2570 on April 14, 2019, 01:49:09 AM
Quote from: Reel 224 on April 09, 2019, 06:57:18 PM
I think Mike has the best solution for cleaning reels Dawn, baking soda and water.
Joe
Dawn mixed with baking soda?
Ask Mike but I think that was his answer to cleaning Reel parts.
Quote from: Reel 224 on April 14, 2019, 02:57:54 AM
Quote from: Scattergun2570 on April 14, 2019, 01:49:09 AM
Quote from: Reel 224 on April 09, 2019, 06:57:18 PM
I think Mike has the best solution for cleaning reels Dawn, baking soda and water.
Joe
Dawn mixed with baking soda?
Whos Mike?
Ask Mike but I think that was his answer to cleaning Reel parts.
Quote from: Reel 224 on April 14, 2019, 01:26:19 PM
Quote from: Scattergun2570 on April 14, 2019, 03:44:18 AM
Quote from: Reel 224 on April 14, 2019, 02:57:54 AM
Quote from: Scattergun2570 on April 14, 2019, 01:49:09 AM
Quote from: Reel 224 on April 09, 2019, 06:57:18 PM
I think Mike has the best solution for cleaning reels Dawn, baking soda and water.
Joe
Dawn mixed with baking soda?
ratio>?
Whos Mike?
Ask Mike but I think that was his answer to cleaning Reel parts.
;D ;D mo65
Joe
I use acetone, carb cleaner, or lighter fluid for degreasing metal parts. Hot water and dawn soap with a toothbrush for plastic parts or if there is a sticker.
Not sure if paint thinner will work or not, worry it might damage some plastic or rubber parts?
I used Sunlight dish-washing liquid to brush away the grease, then spray some WD40 degreaser to wash off the stubborn grease/oil. Let dry under the sun for 20-30 minutes, then apply new grease/oil. Work fine, so far lol........
Been using my UC w/Simple Green and non-sudsing ammonia for years now with gun parts and finally tried it last night on the internals of a Penn 9/0, works well.
I've used brake cleaner with marginal luck. I wonder if parts cleaner with a little basket like you could buy at an auto parts store would work.
I echo the comments about acetone. It's nasty stuff, but works great. Wear gloves and be in a well ventilated area.
I use a combo of either dawn and or simple green, unless it is really super crudy, than I may brake out some acetone if really needed, but I use that sparingly and with gloves on.
I use CRC 6-56 marine lubricant. It will take out just about ANYTHING!!!. I dip the parts in a container with it and brush off the grease or I apply the CRC to the part and brush it off. It loosens it completely even some hard old grease.
Oh, oh... a new trick. Disassemble and put the parts into a zip-lock bag. Add some naphtha or your favorite solvent. You won't need much; few ounces should be plenty. Squeeze out as much air as possible and zip the bag closed. Shake and swish stuff around to coat all surfaces with solvent. Shake and swish again every few minutes or float the bag in a sonic cleaner. As you shake and swish grease and crud will dissolve or fall off. When done with it, unzip a corner and drain out the solvent and sludge. Add a splash (maybe an ounce) of new solvent to rinse off the residue, shake and splash then drain that too. Blow dry or wipe the parts as they come back out of the bag for reassembly.
Many solvent are expensive, stink the place up, should not be handled, and create a disposal problem. The zip lock bag lets you give everything a good soak with a minimal amount of solvent.
-steve
Good tip, Steve !! My wife is "giving me heck" right now about the "smell" in the garage !
You should try this!! Works like a charm.
http://www.dastyitaly.it/ol/det_prodotto.asp?ID=55
Regards,
Ed
It's not available in the U S. Most bathroom cleaners are similar. Rudy
For really greasy dirty metal parts carb cleaner or brake cleaner. For lightly greasy metal parts or generally dirty non metal parts I use dollar store version or CLR.
I have pretty good luck with either "Simple Green", or ZEP(can't remember the product number ???), although, if the grease is very dry, I sometimes give it a "soak" in mineral spirits, first. I don't have an Ultrasonic cleaner, but a brush, some time, and some "elbow grease" will get stuff clean.
CRC Electronic Cleaner is also excellent. It cuts grease really fast, evaporates fast and leaves no residue. I clean my spool bearings with it with them laying in a tiny food strainer. Outdoors although here is no order to the stuff, just so it can drip on the ground. Great to keep on the boat also.
This is my go to degreaser: Perfect Solution
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqdvOcJneT4 (kinda old video, but you get the idea)
Website: https://rotundacleaning.com/rotunda_store/perfect-solution/
Hope this helps ;D
I use Penn's reel cleaner. Works for me very well.
Quote from: Bohdisattva on July 23, 2019, 03:41:49 AM
This is my go to degreaser: Perfect Solution
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqdvOcJneT4 (kinda old video, but you get the idea)
Website: https://rotundacleaning.com/rotunda_store/perfect-solution/
Hope this helps ;D
I've been trying to find that stuff for a bit now, seems none of the hardware stores carry it any longer. Interestingly, Rotunda Cleaning is across town from me. Maybe I can call them and schedule a pickup. I'd spend a lot less in gas driving 30 minutes across town than I would paying for shipping.
I searched for places that sell this stuff just now. Everywhere that sold it (except Rotunda) says it is unavailable, out of stock or not being carried anymore. One forum where they were discussing it indicated that the pH was highly basic, which kind of leads back to my post about cleaning solutions.
I mentioned using ammonia with Dawn dish washing liquid to clean greasy stainless pans and smoker grill grates. Cuts grease like crazy, but I don't leave it on my chromed grill grates for very long. Before trying ammonia, I sprayed oven cleaner on the grill grates, and again it worked but was a smelly caustic way to remove the grease. I suspect that the high pH in oven cleaner and to a lesser extent in ammonia is what is cutting the grease so well.
I personally wouldn't try or recommend ammonia for cleaning reel parts. If perfect solution were readily available I might give it a try, though very cautiously if the pH is indeed very high.