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Title: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: Rivverrat on June 18, 2018, 03:45:32 PM
 Cabellas has the Penn Torque 25 Star Drag for $199.88 this is a steal for a Fantastic reel.  This reel because of its smaller spool diameter has great cranking power in the lower gears. While having the same over all capacity of the 25N.

While this is an overloked reel because of its wider spool, in my opinion its the best star drag made for it's size when cranking power is needed... Jeff


https://www.cabelas.com/product/PENN-TORQUE-STAR-DRAG/1784381.uts?productVariantId=3831931&WT.tsrc=PPC&WT.mc_id=GoogleProductAds&WT.z_mc_id1=03863604&rid=20&ds_rl=1252079&gclid=CjwKCAjwsJ3ZBRBJEiwAtuvtlPbwCPtP-oVpySLkmQpBzfquqzt8UhnZLG0t92b5tVqt4esEhfCeZhoCbBQQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: MarkT on June 18, 2018, 03:53:23 PM
Wow, people put more than that into tricking out a Jiggy that still wouldn't be as good as that Torque.
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: Rivverrat on June 18, 2018, 04:19:47 PM
Mark, RIGHT !! 
This reel with the 4.8:1 low gear set will gather pretty much the same amount of line as the Jig Master 24" per crank vs the Torque 25's  25" per crank. Great reel... Jeff
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: FatTuna on June 18, 2018, 10:07:50 PM
Don't forget to type in "freeship" when you check out.



Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: FatTuna on June 18, 2018, 10:12:06 PM
Btw, I just looked at the schematics to see if it would be possible to turn it into a 25n but it's not. 25n uses the 30 plates. You could turn a 25n into a 30 but it's probably not worth the cost.
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: Rivverrat on June 18, 2018, 11:21:01 PM
Quote from: FatTuna on June 18, 2018, 10:07:50 PM
Don't forget to type in "freeship" when you check out.





Right ! Good reminder... Jeff
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: cwillis85 on June 19, 2018, 12:09:37 AM
There went $200 in a hurry, time to sell some reels.  ;D
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: Rivverrat on June 19, 2018, 01:38:56 AM
Quote from: cwillis85 on June 19, 2018, 12:09:37 AM
There went $200 in a hurry, time to sell some reels.  ;D

If the width doesnt bother you I think you'll realll like this reel... Jeff
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: cwillis85 on June 19, 2018, 09:37:45 AM
I have big hands, width should be fine. Only down side is trying to find a 4.8 year for it. No luck last night online.
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: CapeFish on June 19, 2018, 09:46:45 AM
Just a question, why would you want to reduce the gear ratio?
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: Rivverrat on June 19, 2018, 01:19:24 PM
Quote from: CapeFish on June 19, 2018, 09:46:45 AM
Just a question, why would you want to reduce the gear ratio?

Easier to turn handle with bigger fish. For a reel using live bait most people will use a slower geared reel.  Makes it much easier to gather line. It's also easier on the reel. It just isnt working as hard.

Its a smart way to go when there is no need for speed like when working fake baits... Jeff
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: Rivverrat on June 19, 2018, 01:21:57 PM
Quote from: cwillis85 on June 19, 2018, 09:37:45 AM
I have big hands, width should be fine. Only down side is trying to find a 4.8 year for it. No luck last night online.

The gears are no longer sold as a set / kit. You will need to order the pinion & gear from Scott's... Jeff
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: nelz on June 19, 2018, 02:03:40 PM
These don't have any kind of cast control, right?
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: CapeFish on June 19, 2018, 02:22:42 PM
Quote from: Rivverrat on June 19, 2018, 01:19:24 PM
Quote from: CapeFish on June 19, 2018, 09:46:45 AM
Just a question, why would you want to reduce the gear ratio?

Easier to turn handle with bigger fish. For a reel using live bait most people will use a slower geared reel.  Makes it much easier to gather line. It's also easier on the reel. It just isnt working as hard.

Its a smart way to go when there is no need for speed like when working fake baits... Jeff

Thanks, makes sense, just never had a problem turning the handle before the drag slips, but fully understand why you need it on a tuna reel
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: cwillis85 on June 19, 2018, 04:32:49 PM
Out here in Tampa, we need to low gear to muscle the grouper out of the rocks. Crank the drag up and reel as hard as you can.
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: Rivverrat on June 19, 2018, 06:43:19 PM
Quote from: nelz on June 19, 2018, 02:03:40 PM
These don't have any kind of cast control, right?

That is correct. Only on the Fathom models.... Jeff
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: nelz on June 20, 2018, 02:25:38 AM
Quote from: Rivverrat on June 19, 2018, 06:43:19 PM
Quote from: nelz on June 19, 2018, 02:03:40 PM
These don't have any kind of cast control, right?

That is correct. Only on the Fathom models.... Jeff

Thank goodness or I would've had to blow $200  ;D
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: Rivverrat on June 20, 2018, 01:21:03 PM
Quote from: nelz on June 20, 2018, 02:25:38 AM
Quote from: Rivverrat on June 19, 2018, 06:43:19 PM
Quote from: nelz on June 19, 2018, 02:03:40 PM
These don't have any kind of cast control, right?

That is correct. Only on the Fathom models.... Jeff

Thank goodness or I would've had to blow $200  ;D

Once you get use to casting a fast, free spinning reel lesser reels can be frustrating.

But hey... I understand where your coming from... Jeff
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: swill88 on June 22, 2018, 10:33:23 PM
A big THANKS to you Jeff.

TRQ25 arrived today.  Wow!

Now, for a suitable stick...
Suggestions?
Live bait 40, 50# ?.
Steve
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: cwillis85 on June 22, 2018, 11:26:22 PM
Mine also came in today, and my arm is tired spooling it, lol. The seat on the rod i wanted to attach it to is too small. Also be looking for a rod, but I want something to throw plugs and also use for occasional bottom fishing. Open to suggestions.

Thanks for the heads up on this reel, love the size and the quality.
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: Rivverrat on June 22, 2018, 11:38:27 PM
Quote from: swill88 on June 22, 2018, 10:33:23 PM
A big THANKS to you Jeff.

TRQ25 arrived today.  Wow!

Now, for a suitable stick...
Suggestions?
Live bait 40, 50# ?.
Steve


When it comes to a 7' - 8', 40 & 50 lb stick in open water I am extremely partial to United Composites CE Wahoo. the 8' version has about 29" of fiberglas in the top third or so of the blank leading to carbon fiber for the rest. A very durable, fantastic casting rod, thats especailly easy when used with free spinning, faster reels like the Torques.

If you want a faster, little heavier with more sensitivity look at the 8" Tilefish. The UC CE Wahoo & 8' Tilefish are 2 classics no one should be with out. The 7' & 8' Tilefish are very different rods.


I have 2 will be getting another. 50 line is their sweet spot. However they will do well with 40 & fish 60 well enough if guides are layed out right & a rod devoted to 60 line is not at hand & your not afraid to pull.

Heres one I wrapped for myself for hard river use. It's something different. I used 7 single foot guides below the tip. First 3 guides above reel are double foot. All are Fuji. Weighs around 15 oz. Rod cast unbelievably well... Jeff
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: Rivverrat on June 23, 2018, 12:00:20 AM
Quote from: cwillis85 on June 22, 2018, 11:26:22 PM
Mine also came in today, and my arm is tired spooling it, lol. The seat on the rod i wanted to attach it to is too small. Also be looking for a rod, but I want something to throw plugs and also use for occasional bottom fishing. Open to suggestions.

Thanks for the heads up on this reel, love the size and the quality.

A Fuji size 22 carbon reel  seat will fit fine. I dont know if the Wahoo would work well for your bottom fishhing or not. I am confused by what I see & when I hear some describe their idea of a bottom rod. Remember most of my experience is fresh water..... I know Randy owner of United Composites has reccomended it to some for grouper.

I can say with out any hesitation you would be hard pressed to find a better stick for tossing plugs. I would be happy with it for bottom fishing. How ever I think the 8' UC Tilefish would be better suited for this & would toss heavier plugs fine.

How heavy of plugs you throwing ?... Jeff
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: cwillis85 on June 23, 2018, 12:46:24 AM
I am wanting to throw 3-4 oz plugs. I was seeing that a good plug rod works well for grouper, gives you the back bone to yank them out of their holes. I just starting using rods other than ugly stiks so this is all new for me.
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: Rivverrat on June 23, 2018, 02:37:45 AM
Quote from: cwillis85 on June 23, 2018, 12:46:24 AM
I am wanting to throw 3-4 oz plugs. I was seeing that a good plug rod works well for grouper, gives you the back bone to yank them out of their holes. I just starting using rods other than ugly stiks so this is all new for me.

Either rod I mentioned would cast plugs that size very well. The Tilefish is an all graghite  fast rod.  The CE Wahoo is a moderate action. You need to take your reel & mount it on these rods if possible & pull on them.

I dont know what your looking to spend but these two rods are spendy to buy compared to some other options. However with the Trq 25 being of such a quality reel with such a wide range of use I would get the nicest rod I could afford....   Catfish Fear Me.... Wives Hate Me... Jeff
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: cwillis85 on June 23, 2018, 06:00:20 PM
My wife wanted to go to the outlet mall for a new purse, knowing I needed some leverage against her for the new rod, I agreed. Three new Coach purses later I suggested stopping by the tackle shop for a quick look. I was originally thinking another Okuma rod for this reel just because of cost restrictions but after the shopping spree, my wife was in a spending mood. The guy at the shop showed me a bunch of rods in my budget. I saw a Phenix ESW-809H with the cool carbon fiber butt and black diamond blank.The guy said if my budget was higher this was the rod to get. My wife said if that is the right one, then get that one. Damn I love this woman.  :) I was hoping for an 8' but when your wife is on board with a rod that was double your budget you question the importantace of that extra foot. I am excited, whole combo cost less than retail on the reel!

Thanks again for the heads up on this deal, I will try to get out to see how big of a birds nest I can make  ;D
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: swill88 on June 23, 2018, 06:24:01 PM
I'm happy for you Chris!

What's the name of that model Phenix blank?

I want to go shopping... does your wife have a sister? :)

Steve
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: cwillis85 on June 23, 2018, 06:32:27 PM
This one is one of their factory rods, they call it the Black Diamond east coast


https://www.phenixrods.com/products/saltwater/black-diamond/black-diamond-east-coast/
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: Rivverrat on June 23, 2018, 06:33:28 PM
Let me know your alls thoughts on the rods you pair this reel with. It's knowledge that comes in handy & I can use for helping others here in my land locked state that sees very little high end gear for salt water... Jeff
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: Rivverrat on June 23, 2018, 06:40:50 PM
Chris, I have no personal experience with that rod. However I know several who use it & are extremly happy with it... Jeff
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: SoCalAngler on June 23, 2018, 08:44:53 PM
Quote from: swill88 on June 22, 2018, 10:33:23 PM
A big THANKS to you Jeff.

TRQ25 arrived today.  Wow!

Now, for a suitable stick...
Suggestions?
Live bait 40, 50# ?.
Steve



You have to figure out how you will use the setup the most, will it be 40 or 50 lb? IMO 50 lb is a bit too much for a single speed reel with the 6:1 gears, maybe even for 40 lb but it can be done. The reel may be able handle it but can you? I would extend the handle setting to its longest even with 40 lb test to gain more torque.

For our type of fishing with either 40 or 50 lb and live bait I'd look for a 7' rod. This length fishes well with bait and the yoyo iron, having it cover two bases with one setup. I may even drop down to 6.5' rod for 50.

Now price point will come into play on rod selection as well as are you buying new or used? If we have some more info here I'm sure myself as well as others could give you some info on rods to look at.

Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: MarkT on June 23, 2018, 08:58:09 PM
Chris, it's an esw709h? I don't see an 8'er.  I have 2 psw809h and a psw869h... and a psw808mh and a psw809xhj. The rod in my avatar is a psw809h.
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: cwillis85 on June 23, 2018, 09:08:06 PM
That's correct, I was hoping for an 8' rod but couldn't find one I liked. Mine is a 7 footer, got the reel on it and it feels great, very light. Also the rating on line is lower than the 30-80 painted on the rod.
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: basto on June 23, 2018, 10:16:03 PM
I bought a Fathom 25lw for its gear ratio (4.3:1) and its drag, 30lb max. I just removed the levelwind.
Basto
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: Rivverrat on June 24, 2018, 04:44:13 PM
 Just a side note on this reel & the Torques Ive recently purchased. The drag can in some cases need a good breaking in by setting the drag high & repeatedly running several yards off getting the drag warm to the touch.

Or just let the fish do it. The drag on this last one I purchased from Cabela's had me worried but eneded up being just as smooth as any of my other Torque star drags.

Again some thoughts on rods for this reel   Just my thoughts for what ever it may be worth .

 Dont feel  every rod I have has to be married to a specific reel that I own or vice versa. For instance my Torque 25's will be used on a  8' Tilefish & at other times when fishing for smaller sharks & bigger Red Drum from my yak it will be fished on a CP70HP, United Composites 7" Challenger Platinum a fantastic 50 - 60, exrtremly fast, great live - chunk bait rod, with soft tip. Not exactly the lightest rod for this. But there are few in this class that are as durable. It is light for its recoil & the power it pocesses. Not the best combo for drum. However I like having only one rod when in the Yak. Design of this rod is like the Calsar Grafighter only better.


Thoughts are a faster action rod is good when used with any single geared reel when dealing with bigger fish. Makes it much easier for me to gather line. When using the pull & reel down thingy.

One does have to pay attention & be aware when using such a rod from a yak.


I am a big fan of UC rods. 3 reasons why.

1)  I believe some of their specific models are very unique & the best made, unmatched by any other maker. Wont go into why here but send me a PM if interested.

2)  They are made in the US. Any time Im spending top dollar for something I enjoy, I like to buy American made when ever posible.

3)  Randy Penny, owner of United Composites is accesible & he listens. I could go on at length how much this man has helped me while also being very tolerant of me bugging him. This is very refreshing. He has earned my business.  When.....  

in todays world with everything seemingly being part of a bigger conglomerate & to talk with some one you must choose from a menu & you "MIGHT" get lucky & talk with some one who knows exactly what they or you are talking about....

I'll just call Randy... Jeff
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: Rivverrat on June 25, 2018, 08:56:04 PM
 Having had a few days to spend with this reel & another Torque 25 I've had but seldom used I think I've a much better Idea of what use this reel is best suited for.

Guess it goes with out saying the Torque 25, like the rest of the star drags in this series, is a true casting reel. I dont see the 25 as much a cast & retrieve reel using fake baits as say the 25N. What I think the 25 excels at is tossing live & chunk bait for distance & bottom fishing.

While I didnt measure any of my casts I was able to get noticably better distance with a variety of different types of casts with the 25 than any other star drags of this approximate size that I have including the 25N. To be clear I'm not talking any thing like 50 yards difference. But as stated it was clearly enough to be noticable. Enough to warrant using this reel for the gain recieved when needed.

a side note: I noticed while doing a preservice that the bearings were not greased like they were on my older black 25. Left the sheilds off oiled bearings & went fishing. So Penn may have lightened up on the grease a bit on these more recent models.

Also, this is a Big Deal, with the 4.8:1 gears in place this rascal collects 26" retreived of line retreived with each turn of the handle this is just FANTASTIC . With reel loaded with 50 lb. Big Game to the second capacity line on the spool just below the max capacity line, measuring this I found it to be a bit more than the stated 26" in the specs printed on the back of the Versa Gear box.

Any how with this gear set in place I am able to turn the handle with out to much difficulty with reel set at 20 lbs. of drag.     Would I want to fish all day like this ? With the reel set up like that ?   For fish that can take yards of line at that setting. Absolutely not. It's just reassurring to know this reel can if the need arises.

Fished with handle fully extended, even with 30 lb. line this reel could benefit a good deal from a larger handle knob. This will be the only upgrade thats needed on these reels.

  This all may be as obvious to some as a hammer to the head is painful... But any way there it is for whatever it may be worth... Jeff
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: cwillis85 on June 25, 2018, 09:58:23 PM
Good notes, I am keeping an eye out for that 4.8 headset, hoping to get lucky and stumble onto a nos set. I have noticed the football handles are a bit small for my paws but that will be a later project. Will be out casting it this weekend for sure
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: Rivverrat on June 25, 2018, 11:25:52 PM
Quote from: cwillis85 on June 25, 2018, 09:58:23 PM
Good notes, I am keeping an eye out for that 4.8 headset, hoping to get lucky and stumble onto a nos set. I have noticed the football handles are a bit small for my paws but that will be a later project. Will be out casting it this weekend for sure

        Chris here ya go. Remember all Torque star drags use the same gear set. The pinion for this 4.8:1 main gear is at the bottom left of this page. Be sure to order both the pinion & main gear as a set. They didnt list this
  gear ratio in the 25 parts. But it's here... Jeff

                                                                  www.mysticparts.com/5-TRQ40-Gear-Main-Gear-481-Ratio-P28204.aspx
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: cwillis85 on June 26, 2018, 12:19:59 AM
Perfect, missed this all together and the cost is right about the same as the kits.

Thanks again
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: Rivverrat on June 30, 2018, 06:41:55 PM
Spooled on 300 yards of 80 lb. Suffix on my 25.

I was wanting to get some JB Braid from Lee but a friend gave me this saying it was heavier than he needed.

Figured I might as well give it a try... Jeff
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: cwillis85 on June 30, 2018, 07:49:07 PM
I have heard that the suffix braid is very high quality. I havent used it myself but if I had to buy line this was my next planned purchase, see if it lives up to the hype
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: handi2 on June 30, 2018, 08:50:14 PM
Jeff are you saying that the Torque 40 4.8 gear set fits the Torque 25 reels? That's good to know.

I do have 2 of the 4.8 kits in my shop.

Keith
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: Swami805 on June 30, 2018, 09:44:46 PM
I use a lot of power pro and tried some 20lb suffix. It wasn't as stiff as PP and after awhile it seemed like the fibers seemed to separate for lack of a better word.It's very limp and casts fine but I had to strip off the end 20-30 yards after every outing. Seemed strong and knotted easily. I was casting and retrieving a carolina rig at the beach so likely the sand played a role but didn't have that issue with PP. That was the only thing I used it for,might be ok for other applications
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: Rivverrat on June 30, 2018, 11:39:31 PM
Quote from: handi2 on June 30, 2018, 08:50:14 PM
Jeff are you saying that the Torque 40 4.8 gear set fits the Torque 25 reels? That's good to know.

I do have 2 of the 4.8 kits in my shop.

Keith

Keith, now that you ask & coming from one such as your self... well, now you have me wondering. To be honest I'm not positively sure the gear set I placed in this 25 was from Mystic   .  However I did just receive 2 sets of the 4.8:1 gears listed in the Torque 40 parts from Mystic just a few days ago. I'll check this & get right back. I will be surprised if I was wrong on this. But it wouldnt be the first... Jeff
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: Rivverrat on July 01, 2018, 12:17:04 AM
Keith,  the same gear set is used for all Torque Star Drag Reels. The reel in the pic is my 25.

Dang, you really had me second guessing myself.
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: Rivverrat on July 01, 2018, 07:10:40 PM
CORRECTION: Sorry guys,the Torque 25 does in fact retrieve 25" of line or very close, with each turn of the handle with 4.8:1 gear set... Jeff
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: cwillis85 on July 01, 2018, 09:40:19 PM
I got to go huk some lead with my new setup today. Throwing a 6oz egg sinker felt great, best distance I have ever got with that much weight. Caught one 8"ish white grunt on it, didnt even notice it was on there until I got it to the surface. So far the gear feels strong but again I barely gave it a test. I got a 50/50 combo on good cast and elaborate bird nest, less and less the more I cast. So far this combo is shaping up to be my favorite, light, strong, and fits my hands so well.
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: handi2 on July 01, 2018, 09:43:46 PM
I'm a dummy Jeff. It states it right on the package. Its good to know you can still get them separately.
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: Rivverrat on July 01, 2018, 10:06:07 PM
Quote from: handi2 on July 01, 2018, 09:43:46 PM
I'm a dummy Jeff. It states it right on the package. Its good to know you can still get them separately.


;D   Believe you to be far from being a dummy. I know it has to be confusing for some with the 4.8:1 set not being listed on any Torques except the 40 on Mystics website
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: Rivverrat on July 01, 2018, 10:20:33 PM
Chris, I'm glad this reel is working well for you. If this does turn out to be your Fav. you should look at the 12 & 15 star drags. While these work well in the salt they will work great in frsh water landing or bringing to boat any fresh water fish that swims in North America. Unless the depth is great... Jeff 
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: cwillis85 on July 01, 2018, 10:39:42 PM
We just signed paperwork to build a house in Apollo Beach, 10 minutes from the bay. Hooefully the only fresh water fishing for me will be the catch and release ponds in the community with my daughter. Then just cobia and reds running through the warm power plant discharge. Fingers crossed of course  ;D
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: swill88 on July 01, 2018, 10:53:25 PM
Quote from: cwillis85 on July 01, 2018, 10:39:42 PM
We just signed paperwork to build a house in Apollo Beach, 10 minutes from the bay. Hooefully the only fresh water fishing for me will be the catch and release ponds in the community with my daughter. Then just cobia and reds running through the warm power plant discharge. Fingers crossed of course  ;D

Congratulations!  Exciting times are ahead for sure!
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: Rivverrat on July 01, 2018, 10:55:55 PM
Wow Chris, You lucky dog. Living there one of those two reels would still be a consideration for me.  They cast lite stuff like a spinner... Jeff

Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: cwillis85 on July 01, 2018, 11:52:39 PM
I had to sell my squall 15 to help pay for the torque. I really liked that reel for 2oz wieghts. That cast like a dream, the clicker was super stiff and you could feel it was close to its limit on a few of the under 10lb jacks. I think i will be looking more at either finishing my Jigmaster into a long range bomber or look at the Fathom series when the time comes. Not sure a new $600 reel is in the cards anytime soon. Unless of course another deal like this last one comes up, might have to go do a side job to get one or two.
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: Rivverrat on July 02, 2018, 03:36:36 AM
There are deals on these reels often enough. No problems tossing 1/4 - 1/2 oz on my Torque 12's.

This 25 does OK with 1 oz.  but starts singing with 2 oz.   weights & up with my 8' Tilefish.

This combo will be used for drifting & casting bait  for distance. Until I find an appropriate 9' - 10'  two pc. rod & afford to purchase it... Jeff









Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: nelz on July 02, 2018, 01:51:20 PM
Looks like Cabelas dropped the entire line of Torque stars a couple of days ago. Snooze'ya'loose!
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: Rivverrat on July 03, 2018, 01:32:49 AM
Quote from: nelz on July 02, 2018, 01:51:20 PM
Looks like Cabelas dropped the entire line of Torque stars a couple of days ago. Snooze'ya'loose!

I think its sad in a way. Ive noticed tackle shops dropping star drag reels.

I really do like the few 2 speed lever drags I own. While Ive gone back & forth deciding whether  I reeally need them.

I find myself headed out with them every week.

However my heart will always be with the simple & lowly star drag... Jeff
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: cwillis85 on July 26, 2018, 12:27:37 AM
I snoozed on picking up a 4.8 gearset from mysticparts, trying to get my house ready to list has drained the bank. I am hoping someone may know of one I can buy before they are gone forever.

Anybody have a set or know where I might locate one? Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: Penn on July 26, 2018, 11:49:07 AM
Quote from: cwillis85 on July 26, 2018, 12:27:37 AM
I snoozed on picking up a 4.8 gearset from mysticparts, trying to get my house ready to list has drained the bank. I am hoping someone may know of one I can buy before they are gone forever.

Anybody have a set or know where I might locate one? Thanks in advance

The "kits" are no longer available but you can still purchase the parts separate.

https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/PennTRQ40G.aspx

013 TRQ40 & 005 TRQ40

tony
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: cwillis85 on July 26, 2018, 03:48:19 PM
Oops, had a brain fart and looked at the wrong part. Thank you for clearing that up
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: pangamaster on August 06, 2018, 05:52:31 PM
Quote from: Rivverrat on July 01, 2018, 12:17:04 AM
Keith,  the same gear set is used for all Torque Star Drag Reels. The reel in the pic is my 25.

Dang, you really had me second guessing myself.


Thank you very much for this info.  I just ordered the new gears for my TRQ25.  Looking forward to fishing this rig soon!
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: Rivverrat on August 06, 2018, 08:09:15 PM
I hope you end up liking your Trq 25 as much as myself. This could very possibly be one of the last reels with a frame this wide.

Lower gearing helps a lot with reels like this one. Using 40 line & lower gear ratio pretty much makes the issues that come with a wider reel a non issue at least for me.

However I'm fishing mine with 50 & 60... Jeff
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: pangamaster on August 13, 2018, 02:15:57 AM
Hey All,
I just added the new 4.6-1 gears to my unused Torque 25.  Seems I may have stripped out one of the screws on the reel handle side when reassembling.  Not a lot of meat there.  Anyways any suggestions on getting a slightly longer screw?  Or do I need to buy the complete Reel Side plate for $100.  Please help!
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: pangamaster on August 26, 2018, 02:41:07 AM
Bought a new frame.  I'm back in business.  Any after market handles or reel seats available for the torque star drags?
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: Rivverrat on August 28, 2018, 01:40:31 AM
Quote from: pangamaster on August 26, 2018, 02:41:07 AM
Bought a new frame.  I'm back in business.  Any after market handles or reel seats available for the torque star drags?

                   
                                                       https://www.tiburonfishingreels.com/t-bar-lite

 Alans handle knob may be better because it's a tad bigger. The Tiburon style handle knob is my all time fav. This is a great handle just could be a smidge bigger. However it works just fine. You'll want the Torque single speed, model  TB-TRQ. I use it on my Trq 12's. This is a Tib knob that comes with a handle. Will work great with low gear ratio &  
30 - 40 line on Trq 12 - 25 & 25N.

 The next pic is what I have on my Trq 25's.  Had three of these nobs that I originally wanted to put on my
Baja / US113  but absolutely  hated these handles on those reels. However I actually like it a lot on the Trq 25.

You will have to drill out your stock knob to fit these to your factory handle. They can be found in differing sizes at Jigging World & ebay.

The handle & knob in black is the Tiburon offering... Jeff
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: bhale1 on August 28, 2018, 03:42:41 AM
Jeff,
okay ???, whats up with the paracord zip tied to the star, is that to keep it from moving after you pre-set the drag?
just curious ;D
Brett
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: Rivverrat on August 28, 2018, 10:11:33 PM
 It's not zip tied. The cord is whipped into place using braid line.
 
 After turning the star a full turn  & 1/2 on my Trq 12's, enough to engage the drag   It allows me to know with out question what my drag setting is by looking at the cord and where it is in relation to the handle.

The drag setting is as repeatable as it is on any lever drag. I've been doing this for so long I dont notice it or think about it much.

Have to say I'm kind of surprised by the number of people who've asked me about it... Jeff

Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: bhale1 on August 29, 2018, 12:29:22 AM
Jeff,
Well I must say I never would have thought of something like that!
You pretty much can learn something new here every day if you pay attention.
Thanks for the explanation 😁
Brett
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: pangamaster on August 31, 2018, 03:37:05 AM
Quote from: Rivverrat on August 28, 2018, 01:40:31 AM
Quote from: pangamaster on August 26, 2018, 02:41:07 AM
Bought a new frame.  I'm back in business.  Any after market handles or reel seats available for the torque star drags?

                   
                                                       https://www.tiburonfishingreels.com/t-bar-lite

 Alans handle knob may be better because it's a tad bigger. The Tiburon style handle knob is my all time fav. This is a great handle just could be a smidge bigger. However it works just fine. You'll want the Torque single speed, model  TB-TRQ. I use it on my Trq 12's. This is a Tib knob that comes with a handle. Will work great with low gear ratio &  
30 - 40 line on Trq 12 - 25 & 25N.

 The next pic is what I have on my Trq 25's.  Had three of these nobs that I originally wanted to put on my
Baja / US113  but absolutely  hated these handles on those reels. However I actually like it a lot on the Trq 25.

You will have to drill out your stock knob to fit these to your factory handle. They can be found in differing sizes at Jigging World & ebay.

The handle & knob in black is the Tiburon offering... Jeff

Thanks Jeff!
Awesome!  I'm all over that Tiburon handle.  I have them on other reels!
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: johnachak on January 09, 2019, 06:30:48 PM
Quote from: Rivverrat on June 23, 2018, 06:33:28 PM
Let me know your alls thoughts on the rods you pair this reel with. It's knowledge that comes in handy & I can use for helping others here in my land locked state that sees very little high end gear for salt water... Jeff

I paired my TRQ25 star drag with my custom 7" Calstar Jon Vadney built for me. I use it for Codfish and Stripers. I spooled it with Power Pro 50#.
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: Jim Fujitani on January 10, 2019, 04:38:37 PM
I don't know how, but I missed this thread back in June of last year.  I would have bought at least one of the gold Torque 25s.  My first Torque 25 was a black one, and is still almost pristine.  I wanted the 25N, but they (the line of black Torques) were out of production by the time I got interested, and are now extremely hard to find in good condition.

I had to re-educate my thumb to get used to the 'live spindle' spool when casting.  It casts 1-3 ounce jigs like a dream and can easily handle school size pelagics, tho' I never boated any of the wahoo that I hooked because they bit off my top shot leaders.
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: r8rs4lf on January 10, 2019, 08:42:21 PM
Quote from: Jim Fujitani on January 10, 2019, 04:38:37 PM
I don't know how, but I missed this thread back in June of last year.  I would have bought at least one of the gold Torque 25s.  My first Torque 25 was a black one, and is still almost pristine.  I wanted the 25N, but they (the line of black Torques) were out of production by the time I got interested, and are now extremely hard to find in good condition.

I had to re-educate my thumb to get used to the 'live spindle' spool when casting.  It casts 1-3 ounce jigs like a dream and can easily handle school size pelagics, tho' I never boated any of the wahoo that I hooked because they bit off my top shot leaders.

The black Torque 25N's in great shape and even NIB are out there, but you'll pay for sure! I recently got ahold of a black Torque 25N and 12 that could pass for new. I know, I'm late to the party!

As for a different knob, has anyone ever tried to install a black version of a Trinidad 16/20? Those knobs feel great in my hand. The factory knob on the Torque send a bit small.
Title: Re: Penn Torque 25 Star Drag Sale
Post by: Rivverrat on January 11, 2019, 02:02:25 AM
Not tried this myself. I see no reason using a Tiburon handle blank it couldn't easily be with a little thought put into it... Jeff