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For Sale => Vintage Offshore Tackle by Randy Pauly => Topic started by: Vintage Offshore Tackle on June 21, 2018, 04:36:52 PM



Title: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Vintage Offshore Tackle on June 21, 2018, 04:36:52 PM
I will begin shipping tomorrow.  If anyone has not paid for their kits yet, please do so now by PayPal to rosygirl900@aol.com.  If you would prefer to send a check, please PM me for my address.

Once I figure out the shipping costs, I will let you know if you owe me.  If you have overpaid, I will send you a refund.  For those of you who had Tiburon inscribe their frames, please hold off on sending your $20 until I get you the amount owed for shipping if any.

I hope that you all love the kits.  The lines that you see on the bottom of the frame on the third photo are reflections of the white shelving in Tiburon's staging area, not flaws in the anodizing, and yes, I know that you do not put the rod brace on the threads of the reel seat!

Thanks again for making this project possible.

Randy


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: twotone on June 21, 2018, 04:44:18 PM
Sweet and looking good !!  Thank you  R.P.


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: FatTuna on June 21, 2018, 05:20:51 PM
I'm not going to lie. those look really good. Probably should have bought one.


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: mo65 on June 21, 2018, 05:47:43 PM
Awesome Randy...bravo!! 8)


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: xjchad on June 21, 2018, 06:12:48 PM
Wow!! Simply amazing!!!


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Shark Hunter on June 21, 2018, 06:15:01 PM
Awesome!!!! :o


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Tightlines666 on June 21, 2018, 07:05:18 PM
Nice!


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: mikeysm on June 21, 2018, 07:09:08 PM
Randy it will be hard to top this kit. A once in a life time deal.


Mike


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: TheReelShop on June 21, 2018, 07:25:43 PM
Wow this is just plain bad ass!!!


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Vintage Offshore Tackle on June 21, 2018, 07:28:01 PM
Thank you Mike, Adrian, John, Daron, Chad, Mo, Fat Tuna and Tony!

The next brand new project is going in the opposite direction, an extra narrow Jigmaster, and I had better get my rear end in gear and start selling them because there are forty of them coming next month.

Thanks again,

Randy


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Vintage Offshore Tackle on June 21, 2018, 07:30:00 PM
Wow this is just plain bad ass!!!

Adrian, please take a look at the photos of the reel with the black frame and the silver spool and let me know whether or not you would like to change your spool color to silver.  I have an extra one.

Thanks,

Randy


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: TheReelShop on June 21, 2018, 07:51:01 PM
Wow this is just plain bad ass!!!

Adrian, please take a look at the photos of the reel with the black frame and the silver spool and let me know whether or not you would like to change your spool color to silver.  I have an extra one.

Thanks,

Randy


Hey Randy I will stick to all black... Thank You again for all this!


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Shark Hunter on June 21, 2018, 08:10:39 PM
The spool arbor isn't as big as I thought it would be.
This thing is going to hold a ton of line!
They really turned out Nice Randy. ;)


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Vintage Offshore Tackle on June 21, 2018, 08:27:07 PM
The spool arbor isn't as big as I thought it would be.
This thing is going to hold a ton of line!
They really turned out Nice Randy. ;)

Thank you Daron.  Yours will be on it's way tomorrow.  I am anticipating that some of us are going to want to upgrade our reels mechanically.  Do you have a short list of recommended trick parts?

Thanks again,

Randy


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Shark Hunter on June 21, 2018, 09:57:37 PM
No. 1 would be a stainless sleeve from Tom, but I think those are out of stock at the moment.
No. 2 is an insert Kit from Adam. Availability is always an issue on custom parts. I buy them when they are available.
No. 3 is a Stainless Handle Arm, also from Adam. His offset models are the best there is.
No. 4 is a 5/0 Grip.
With these four parts alone, it makes a much stronger reel and it makes it look so much better than stock.
Using the stock plates allows for ss double dogs. A Must with a reel like this.
Cutting plates for the dogs is not advisable if you aren't familiar. If you ruin it. Good luck finding a 16/0 side plate for less than you want to pay.
This is a long post, but all I did to this 16/0 was clean it up and put in a new 7 stack of Carbon Fiber.
Mike caught a 14' Tiger Shark on it. It made me feel good that my work made it Happen for him.
After his catch, I did replace the Brass sleeve with a stainless one. I think that is all you really need.
New Carbon Fiber stack and a Stainless sleeve,
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=22384.0
This is the whole hog version, but like I said, most of these parts are unavailable now.
Stainless Main Gear, Sleeve, Dogs, Handle and all that was available at the time.
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=15476.0


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: mikeysm on June 22, 2018, 02:29:37 AM
Randy did you have to add shims to the spool?

Mike


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Benni3 on June 22, 2018, 06:57:31 AM
Now that looks mighty fine!!!!!! ;D


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: thorhammer on June 22, 2018, 06:58:58 AM
I vote that the first one lined and on a rod be next month's photo-of-month. But you have to hand-wind :)


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Vintage Offshore Tackle on June 22, 2018, 07:02:33 AM
Randy did you have to add shims to the spool?

Mike


Mike, my reel did not need any shims, and it's a good thing because when I opened the bag of 60 shims to pack them to ship three per kit, I discovered that the inside diameter of the hole in the shims that I received is too small to fit on the spool shaft. They must be for a smaller reel.

Just to make sure that the Tiburon shaft was not oversized, I tried them on the stock Penn spool that came out of the reel and the shim was too small for that one too.

I didn't not want to delay shipping the kits, so I am going to send them out without the shims.  If anyone needs shims, please let me know and I will have Mo mail them directly to you.  Hopefully everyone's installation will go as smoothly as mine did.

Thanks,

Randy


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Vintage Offshore Tackle on June 22, 2018, 07:03:14 AM
Now that looks mighty fine!!!!!! ;D

Thank you Benni!


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Vintage Offshore Tackle on June 22, 2018, 07:03:30 AM
I vote that the first one lined and on a rod be next month's photo-of-month. But you have to hand-wind :)

Thank you John!


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Vintage Offshore Tackle on June 22, 2018, 07:04:43 AM
No. 1 would be a stainless sleeve from Tom, but I think those are out of stock at the moment.
No. 2 is an insert Kit from Adam. Availability is always an issue on custom parts. I buy them when they are available.
No. 3 is a Stainless Handle Arm, also from Adam. His offset models are the best there is.
No. 4 is a 5/0 Grip.
With these four parts alone, it makes a much stronger reel and it makes it look so much better than stock.
Using the stock plates allows for ss double dogs. A Must with a reel like this.
Cutting plates for the dogs is not advisable if you aren't familiar. If you ruin it. Good luck finding a 16/0 side plate for less than you want to pay.
This is a long post, but all I did to this 16/0 was clean it up and put in a new 7 stack of Carbon Fiber.
Mike caught a 14' Tiger Shark on it. It made me feel good that my work made it Happen for him.
After his catch, I did replace the Brass sleeve with a stainless one. I think that is all you really need.
New Carbon Fiber stack and a Stainless sleeve,
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=22384.0
This is the whole hog version, but like I said, most of these parts are unavailable now.
Stainless Main Gear, Sleeve, Dogs, Handle and all that was available at the time.
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=15476.0

Thanks a million for the info Daron.  Just one stupid question:  Are Carbon Fiber and Carbontex and HT-100 all basically the same material?


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Shark Hunter on June 22, 2018, 09:23:40 AM
I've always used laminated Carbon Fiber sheet or ordered from Mystic parts. I've never ordered carbontex, so I'm not able to answer that.
My opinion is you can't go wrong using any of these three methods. They are proven.


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: thorhammer on June 22, 2018, 09:41:52 AM
HT-100 is a carbon fiber fabric thatís laminated on fiberglass to provide stiffness in large sheets and then cut into strips. These strips are run through a stamping die to produce washers of various sizes to compliment Pennís original sizes of asbestos type washers as well as new designs. Since the introduction of HT-100, almost every other reel manufacturer is now using some form of carbon fiber drag washers. Pennís Dura-drag material is also another variation of the original material.


This is from Penn directly.


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Vintage Offshore Tackle on June 22, 2018, 11:56:15 AM
Thank you Daron and John.  I bought some HT-100s for my 20/0 and I just wanted to make sure that they were the right kind.

Randy


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: The Great Maudu on June 22, 2018, 08:15:24 PM
Wow! I just saw this. They are beautiful Randy. Looking forward to getting mine. Thank you.


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: TheReelShop on June 23, 2018, 06:54:53 AM
We need side plates now. I got a friend who is currently fabricating his own CNC and maybe we can attempt at building the side plates. but I don't know if plates require a 5 axis CNC or Lathe. Maybe they can be made either way.


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Benni3 on June 23, 2018, 07:05:00 AM
The spool arbor isn't as big as I thought it would be.
This thing is going to hold a ton of line!
They really turned out Nice Randy. ;)
 smaller arbor + ton of line= ???,,,haha :D,,,,line capabilities got some math to it now ;D


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Deepfins on June 23, 2018, 01:14:02 PM
I picked up my 20/0 spool/frame from Randy, yesterday, and just installed it without any issues.  Mine did not need shims, and everything fit absolutely perfect.  The 20/0 kit is truly a work of art!  Attached is my 20/0 next to an old school 14/0 vom Hofe.  Thanks to Randy for all the time he put into this project!!

Cheers,
John


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: swill88 on June 23, 2018, 01:55:01 PM
Some nice toys there John... thanks for sharing.
How old is the von Hofe?

Steve


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Army_of_One on June 23, 2018, 02:37:52 PM
Those are bad ass!


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Swami805 on June 23, 2018, 03:12:14 PM
WOW! those are nice, seeing the reel seat puts the size in perspective. That is a big reel(understatement of the year).


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: STRIPER LOU on June 24, 2018, 01:12:43 AM
WOW Randy! Another amazing job!

Those aren't reels, they're beautiful pieces of machinery and masterpiece's at that. Outstanding work RP!  ;)

....................Lou


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: mikeysm on June 24, 2018, 12:31:39 PM
Randy thanks for the fast shipping on the kit. The spool didn't need any shims a perfect fit. I am still deciding on a reel handle but the rest is complete.

Mike


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Benni3 on June 24, 2018, 06:20:14 PM
Looks fabulous,,,,, ;D


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: swill88 on June 24, 2018, 10:03:18 PM
Looks fabulous,,,,, ;D

The reel?  Or the bench? 



Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: conchydong on June 25, 2018, 12:50:59 AM
Looks fabulous,,,,, ;D

The reel?  Or the bench? 



The 24 ct. gold roller guides. ;D


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: mikeysm on June 25, 2018, 02:26:08 AM
Those are the Everol ball bearing roller guides for the rod to go with the reel.

Mike


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: droppedit on June 25, 2018, 03:25:55 AM
Those are the Everol ball bearing roller guides for the rod to go with the reel.

Mike


What blank / butt are you going to mate it up with?


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: CapeFish on June 25, 2018, 03:39:54 AM
Geepers, impressive, I want to see the fish that these are going to haul in. Winding in kilometres of line when that beast heads for the horizon is also going to take some doing.


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: mikeysm on June 25, 2018, 04:19:53 AM
I am using a united composites gladiator 7'6" blank. This is for shark fishing and the rod can be used as a rail rod also. I haven't made a final decision on the blank. I have one already but I might save it for another project.

Mike


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Vintage Offshore Tackle on June 25, 2018, 07:04:38 AM
Thanks to everyone for all of the posts and photos, and to the Alantani.com ohana for supporting these projects, and to Alan for giving me the forum and access to this world of fellow fishing fanatics.  Thanks especially to those who funded these 20/0 kits for their confidence and for trusting me with their money.

This one probably would not have gotten off of  the ground without Mike and Daron's suggestions and encouragement, and it would not have been possible without Tiburon's technical expertise and passion for fishing and their willingness to invest disproportionate amounts of their time and resources when they could be spent on more profitable ventures.  It's really exciting to see a wild idea turned into reality!

I had to leave again for LA last Friday and was only able to ship a few kits before I left.  I will be home on Tuesday night and will ship all of the rest of the kits on Wednesday.  I will send the tracking numbers as soon as I print the shipping labels.  Please accept my apology for the delay. 

Thanks again,

Randy


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: xjchad on June 25, 2018, 08:28:52 AM
I'm really hoping that you will be able to do another run of these someday and that I'm in a position to join in!  What a masterpiece!


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: 1badf350 on June 25, 2018, 08:52:23 AM
I'm really hoping that you will be able to do another run of these someday and that I'm in a position to join in!  What a masterpiece!
The promise of exclusivity is one of the reasons many of us bought in to this project.


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: xjchad on June 25, 2018, 09:07:48 AM
I'm really hoping that you will be able to do another run of these someday and that I'm in a position to join in!  What a masterpiece!
The promise of exclusivity is one of the reasons many of us bought in to this project.

Oh, so it was just the one run?  I hadn't seen that.  Well, congrats to those of you who did, very special!
I'm loving all the pics!


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Vintage Offshore Tackle on June 25, 2018, 09:19:03 AM
Chad, before I gave Tiburon the go-ahead on this project, I obtained their commitment that this run of twenty would be the only one, ever.  They have been honorable in all of our dealings to date, so I expect them to keep that promise.  This was a difficult project for them, different in scale from anything that they had done before, so even without our agreement, I believe that they would be very hesitant to take it on again.

On the brighter side, just think how much money you saved by not buying one, and all of the cool stuff that you can buy with it!

Thanks,

Randy


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: xjchad on June 25, 2018, 09:22:04 AM
Chad, before I gave Tiburon the go-ahead on this project, I obtained their commitment that this run of twenty would be the only one, ever.  They have been honorable in all of our dealings to date, so I expect them to keep that promise.  This was a difficult project for them, different in scale from anything that they had done before, so even without our agreement, I believe that they would be very hesitant to take it on again.

On the brighter side, just think how much money you saved by not buying one, and all of the cool stuff that you can buy with it!

Thanks,

Randy

Haha, thanks for the perspective Randy!  It's a wonderful kit for sure, but the price of the kit plus a reel to put it on and all the upgrades is out of my range a bit.
Can't wait to see all the builds!


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Shark Hunter on June 25, 2018, 09:02:29 PM
My Kit arrived Today Safe and Sound.
Thank You Randy.
I would put it all together, but the double shifts are killing me this week.
I Can't Believe how light it is.
The spool turned out Very Nice as well.
The Arbor isn't as Big as I expected, but that is a good thing.
The spool on the Everol 20/0 has a Huge Arbor.
I think the sky will be the Limit on Spooling this Bad Boy. ;)


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Swami805 on June 25, 2018, 10:06:32 PM
Don't worry Chad, I'm sure with this group you'll see a 24/0 at some point. ;)


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Shark Hunter on June 25, 2018, 10:14:06 PM
There are Bigger and Better things Coming.
Believe it or not. ;)


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: The Great Maudu on June 26, 2018, 01:32:17 AM
With with frame being wider than a factory 16/0, what if any mods need to be made to the rod braces?


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: TheReelShop on June 26, 2018, 08:00:59 PM
Just got mine this thing is amazing!!


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Vintage Offshore Tackle on June 26, 2018, 08:09:22 PM
With with frame being wider than a factory 16/0, what if any mods need to be made to the rod braces?

Mike, this is just my opinion, but I don't think that any mods will be necessary, just tighten the reel seat as tight as you can get it, then make sure that the rod clamp and both braces are tightened evenly and as tight as you can get them, then go back and see if you can get the reel seat any tighter. 

Did you have anything in particular in mind?  Any suggestions as to how to beef up the connections would be very welcome.

Thanks,

Randy


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: The Great Maudu on June 26, 2018, 09:04:18 PM
I donít have anything in mind right now. Mine should be in a day or two. When I get it Iíll have a better idea about it. It not be any concern st all.


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Shark Hunter on June 26, 2018, 09:09:36 PM
The stock Braces will be fine Mike.
I however have a custom made set that was fabricated by a good friend.
I will post them when I finish the build this weekend.


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: The Great Maudu on June 27, 2018, 11:26:39 PM
Thanks Daron. I canít wait to see your build out. Randy I got mine today. Everything is fine. However I was concerned when I first saw the shipping box.


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: 1badf350 on June 28, 2018, 03:55:53 AM
I have found that the word ďfragileĒ, in The USPS employee handbook, means ďthrow meĒ.


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: 54bullseye on June 28, 2018, 04:41:19 AM
My mail lady says that's the last thing you want to write on a package !!   LOL !   John Taylor


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: broadway on June 28, 2018, 11:40:27 AM
Hey D,
   Is that good friend, John by any chance?  I liked his beefy braces he had made a while back.

Quote
I have found that the word ďfragileĒ, in The USPS employee handbook, means ďthrow meĒ.
Chris, You're right about that!


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Vintage Offshore Tackle on June 28, 2018, 11:50:36 AM
Thanks Daron. I canít wait to see your build out. Randy I got mine today. Everything is fine. However I was concerned when I first saw the shipping box.

Ouch!  I am switching to styrofoam.  Those peanuts just don't provide enough support to withstand field goal practice.


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Shark Hunter on June 28, 2018, 12:29:51 PM
Hey D,
   Is that good friend, John by any chance?  I liked his beefy braces he had made a while back.

Quote
I have found that the word ďfragileĒ, in The USPS employee handbook, means ďthrow meĒ.
Chris, You're right about that!
Yes, Those are the ones. ;)


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Benni3 on June 28, 2018, 07:07:36 PM
Has anybody put line on the 20/0 yet  ;D


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Maxed Out on June 28, 2018, 07:56:35 PM
Has anybody put line on the 20/0 yet  ;D

....yes.....15 million yards and only half full so far  ;D  ;D


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: The Great Maudu on June 29, 2018, 02:27:24 PM
Has anybody put line on the 20/0 yet  ;D

....yes.....15 million yards and only half full so far  ;D  ;D

You can get twice that with braid.


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: mikeysm on June 29, 2018, 03:57:20 PM
I just ordeeed 1200yds of JB hollow braid. I will top shot it with 150lb mono.

Mike


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: foakes on June 29, 2018, 05:25:26 PM
Thanks, Randy ó

Got mine today ó perfect in every way.

Now to round up the rest of the parts needed, have a new black Penn handle already.

Best,

Fred



Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Benni3 on June 29, 2018, 07:57:21 PM
? 4000yards of 200lb braid or 1200yards of 300lb mono for $120


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Alto Mare on June 30, 2018, 05:07:06 AM
Hello Randy, I'm not sure how many members have assembled this 20/0 kit,  I did not purchase one, but I'm assembling one for a member and run into a problem.
The left side plate and right side plates will not sit properly on the new kit:

(https://i.imgur.com/jGUwqQk.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/uVK6UtS.jpg)
I've also tried it with a brand new 16/0 plate with same results:
(https://i.imgur.com/D901XQt.jpg)
The plates are hitting the narrower part of the recessed area:
(https://i.imgur.com/LQKjxhX.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/NQGMku0.jpg)
I'm not sure why it is machined as such, or if I'm the only lucky one.
I know that you've assembled one and so has Daron .
Daron mentioned that the rad braces fit nicely with the wider kit, this tells me he has his assembled.
So, could you or Daron, or anyone else for that matter that has assembled one please show me a pic of the frame?

Thank you!

Sal


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Vintage Offshore Tackle on June 30, 2018, 07:24:32 AM
Dear Sal,

I am sorry that you are having a problem assembling Mike's 20/0 kit.  I think that we can take care of it, and if I can't, I will refund Mike's money.

I will attach some photos, as you requested, but I don't see any difference between the photos that you posted and my kit.  I can't take any photos of the frames alone because they have all been shipped, and so far, everyone who I have heard from who has assembled their kits has done so successfully.

I am sure that you have experienced the problem of trying to get new trim rings installed on Penn side plates.  I don't know if the side plates swell, or there is some other cause, but I frequently find that the rings will not fit until you relieve the grooves in the side plates a little bit. 

I believe that since the flange on the Tiburon frame replaces the inner trim ring, this is may be your problem.  My side plates were a tight fit, but I just gradually snugged down the screws without the outer trim ring (to avoid damaging the ring), and it sucked right into the frame, and then I removed the screws, installed the outer trim ring, and re-installed the screws.

Am I understanding the problem that you are having correctly?  If so, and if you cannot get it assembled using the method that I described above, would you mind relieving the grooves in the side plate so that it will fit?  I would be happy to pay you for your time. If you would rather not do that, or if I have misunderstood the problem that you are having, please let me know.

Thank you,

Randy





Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: foakes on June 30, 2018, 08:24:34 AM
My experience when assembling aluminum frames with stock sideplates is the same as Sal & Randy ó

On a typical stock Senator, there is a little flex in the rings ó and the plate is not going into a rigid frame ó it is a little more forgiving.  Even with an inner ring, many times, a few careful laps around the plate with a hand file are required to remove a Mil, or so.  Grease the plate, and ease it in place.

On these rigid frames with their tight tolerances ó very light file work is needed more often than not.

Even when I pull NOS plates out of bins that they have lived in for 30 years or more ó this is true.  Temperature swelling occurs just enough to make a tight fit worse.

Sal, Daron, Randy, and many others already know this ó this is just for others who may not have realized this yet.

Best,

Fred


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Alto Mare on June 30, 2018, 08:42:20 AM
Hello Randy, thanks for the pics. I actually shouldn't have asked for those, I should have taken a closer look and realized you already had them up.

I hear you on the swelling of the plates and have seen it myself, but I do believe this is not the case with this one.
If you go back on my explanation you will notice that I also tried the kit with a brand new 16/0 plate that has never been exposed to weather, grease, or anything else.


I'm no pro on assembling reels, I have done a couple here and there, so maybe it is me that doesn't know how to handle this situation,
especially since no one else is having issues.


 I tell all my customers to purchase a 14/0 plate for $50, when they want me to customize their 16/0, so I won't need to gring a 16/0 plate.
I'm  definitely not willing to force the plate in by tightening the screws, I'm also not willing to shave a 16/0 plate, but I thank you for the offer.

 I just agreed to assemble this reel for Benni...a great member on our community and he only deserves the very best.
I will chat with him to where he wants to go with it, it will really be up to him.

I want to mention that I took the time to check everything out, Tiburon did a good job on the kit.
 I do not have fancy measuring tools, but when comparing it doesn't really matter, as long as you use the same measuring device for both.
The spool is very close to stock, just 1/64th narrower... this isn't even worth mentioning, since they did make it up with the frame, they actually went tighter, which is a good thing.

The spool shaft is spot on, same distance from the edge of the spool to the tip of the shaft on both sides.
The spool ratchet is about 1/8" closer to the bearing, I'm not sure why, but they probably had a good reason. I know it would engage the clicker a little better, but wasn't able to test.

Thank you for getting right on this to make this better Randy, even though it probably won't need a thing after all.


Sal


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Shark Hunter on June 30, 2018, 11:16:06 AM
I haven't assembled my kit yet, but after seeing this, I wanted to check the fitment.
A 14/0 is going do be my donor, since It will be much easier to build another around the spool with new parts.
The fit is tight, but not so much that you have to screw it down to make it fit.
What is key here is making sure it slides it perfectly flat. It took me a few tries.
There is a small lip inside the frame, but when lined up properly, mine snapped right in with little effort.
You will know you got it when it makes a snapping noise getting past that lip with minimal force.
As you can see, it is not screwed down, but flush with the bottom, with no modifications.
These are just my personal results.
Very impressed with the Tolerances of this kit.
Daron


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: 54bullseye on June 30, 2018, 01:49:47 PM
I just gave my 20/0 a mock up assembly no grease on threads just to see fit and mine went together snug but perfect. I used a later mint 16/0 with the white handle. I did find 2 of the thin shim washers on the head plate side of spools shaft and included them when I put it into 20/0 frame and spool fit nice with no end play. Seems to operate perfect with good free spool, clickers good and all old drag material seems good and performs good. As custom parts become available I am gonna have Sal beef mine up with double dogs, SS Sleeve, new drag washers and what ever else is available !! I am having a friend of mine who is a very skilled machinist make me up a cool handle and grasp which I will post pics of when it's done "if it comes out like I hope" Lol !!!  My goal is to catch a Giant Bluefin up in PEI with it next fall !! And it will be in the rod holder not stand up !!!! Lol !!!!  I hope everyone who is building one of these with custom parts will share what they find and post pics as they go !!
   Thanks Randy !!!!!!       John Taylor


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Alto Mare on June 30, 2018, 05:14:58 PM
Ok I just wanted to post that I was able to make the kit work
(https://i.imgur.com/fedpxYD.jpg)
everything fits nice and the reel is working flawlessly
(https://i.imgur.com/VZ58lpZ.jpg)
This one needed 2 shims on each side of the spool, you could use the shims that you will find on the older spool, but you will need to file the ID  a little...it doesn't take much.
Tiburon spool shaft is a hair thicker than stock...not a bad thing.
Spool is nice and centered
(https://i.imgur.com/JYZGpXB.jpg)
I was using the file but wasn't covering any grounds, I decided to use my Foredom and it worked like a charme
(https://i.imgur.com/rtv34zW.jpg)
it actually looks as it was always there
(https://i.imgur.com/OXjQpOP.jpg)
If there is anyone else with the same issue, give the dremel a shot, all you need to do is to rest the bit on ridge and it will keep it aligned.
Yes, this one was assembled by Sal
(https://i.imgur.com/6Ey82g8.jpg)
You are something Benni ;D...enjoy the reel.



Sal


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Benni3 on June 30, 2018, 05:51:09 PM
El capo mas pesado double dog godfather :D thank you very much uncle sal !!!!,,,this is great!wow!!!! ;D


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Vintage Offshore Tackle on June 30, 2018, 08:19:14 PM
Thank you for taking care of it Sal.  I really appreciate it.

Randy


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: twotone on June 30, 2018, 10:35:27 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/njTqnqu.jpg) (https://imgur.com/njTqnqu)(http://i.imgur.com/ug2rOmH.jpg) (https://imgur.com/ug2rOmH)
Right side plate slipped right in. Left side ,3 slaps of my palm. The harness lugs a little tight. No problems with tapping lugs screw holes until they line up. Side plates used were from a new Penn 14/0 . I couldn't bear to rob parts from my 16/0 or 14/0.   Nice fitment here. It's a beauty R.P.

2tone


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Three se7ens on July 01, 2018, 05:18:08 PM
No. 1 would be a stainless sleeve from Tom, but I think those are out of stock at the moment.
No. 2 is an insert Kit from Adam. Availability is always an issue on custom parts. I buy them when they are available.
No. 3 is a Stainless Handle Arm, also from Adam. His offset models are the best there is.
No. 4 is a 5/0 Grip.
With these four parts alone, it makes a much stronger reel and it makes it look so much better than stock.
Using the stock plates allows for ss double dogs. A Must with a reel like this.
Cutting plates for the dogs is not advisable if you aren't familiar. If you ruin it. Good luck finding a 16/0 side plate for less than you want to pay.
This is a long post, but all I did to this 16/0 was clean it up and put in a new 7 stack of Carbon Fiber.
Mike caught a 14' Tiger Shark on it. It made me feel good that my work made it Happen for him.
After his catch, I did replace the Brass sleeve with a stainless one. I think that is all you really need.
New Carbon Fiber stack and a Stainless sleeve,
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=22384.0
This is the whole hog version, but like I said, most of these parts are unavailable now.
Stainless Main Gear, Sleeve, Dogs, Handle and all that was available at the time.
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=15476.0

It will not be much longer on the drag kits.  The cf material has been an issue, but I believe its sorted now(new supplier).  My first batch of washers will be done next week, and once I confirm that they are good, I will get the material ordered for the big senator kits. Handles are always available, but depending on my stock it may be a week or two before they can ship. 


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Shark Hunter on July 02, 2018, 09:04:58 AM
I had to really grind on the non handle plate to make it fit.
My spool took one shim, It was on the old spool.


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Benni3 on July 02, 2018, 01:55:03 PM
Looks great man,,,,nice looking braces too ;D


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: 54bullseye on July 02, 2018, 03:09:07 PM
I had to really grind on the non handle plate to make it fit.
My spool took one shim, It was on the old spool.

Daron what's the green thing ??    John Taylor


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: 1badf350 on July 02, 2018, 03:50:37 PM
Im going with a vape device. Brut cologn flavor LOL


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: The Great Maudu on July 02, 2018, 11:10:15 PM
Im going with a vape device. Brut cologn flavor LOL

Iím going with the Vape and essential shark bait flavors


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: 54bullseye on July 03, 2018, 02:02:22 AM
Oh I honestly didn't know what it was never seen one ?  Thought it might have been some secret reel hot rod piece that Daron was gonna keep to him self !! Just kidding Daron but I honesty didn't know what it was !!! I guess I have lived in the sticks to long !    John Taylor


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: 1badf350 on July 03, 2018, 03:09:52 AM
That flat thingy with the numbers is called a calculator


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Shark Hunter on July 03, 2018, 08:53:48 AM
Yes, it is a vape machine.
Haven't touched a cig in 6 years.
I prefer the candy or fruit flavors.
That one is strawberry watermelon bubble gum, and it tastes just like it. ;)


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Maxed Out on July 03, 2018, 01:13:52 PM
 I'm stashing mine for a rainy day.....or hopefully someday a set of Cortez sideplates. Only time will tell

 Hey Anthony, where did you get those sweet black lugs ??


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: MDC775 on July 03, 2018, 03:09:42 PM
Randy,
Both kits arrived today. Thanks again for making my wildest dreams come true.  ;D

Mike.


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: 1badf350 on July 03, 2018, 03:36:13 PM
Both of my kits arrived today too. Thanks Randy.


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Shark Hunter on July 04, 2018, 12:14:59 AM
Money Shots!


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Jigtosser on July 04, 2018, 03:21:05 PM
Darin,
You are the Best,at putting the Big Reels Together !!!
That is going to be one helluva Shark Reel  ;D
Now you need to find the -SHARK- to put it to the Test!  :o
Good Luck, and Tite Lines...

Dan


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Vintage Offshore Tackle on July 04, 2018, 03:29:31 PM
Love it Daron!  Thanks for the photos.


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: xjchad on July 05, 2018, 08:46:38 AM
Awesome Daron!!!
Love that stand too!!!  8)


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Shark Hunter on July 05, 2018, 09:18:54 AM
I'm only as Good as the people who taught me here. ;)


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Army_of_One on July 06, 2018, 05:42:14 AM
That's a beautiful setup Daron!  Is that a 20/0 hook too?


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Shark Hunter on July 06, 2018, 06:51:39 AM
16/0, it came with the stand.
Custom made for me by a member.


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: The Great Maudu on July 09, 2018, 06:37:16 AM
Darin,
You are the Best,at putting the Big Reels Together !!!

Dan

I agree!
Here are a few pics of BIGFOOT fresh from the oven. I have a special16/0 donor reel on the way that should arrive today. Iím planning on using the original crank arm from the donor reel. It has the post but the torpedo style handle is missing. Iím hoping to be able to figure out a way (with help from you all) to put a handle on it. Also, itís going to need to be re- chromed. Any suggestions about that would be appreciated as well. Randy and Tiburon a first class job all around.


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Benni3 on July 09, 2018, 05:18:34 PM
black on black,,looks great ;D


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: The Great Maudu on July 09, 2018, 07:21:52 PM
I was hoping it would look good and Iím not disappointed. Thanks Benni Iím glad you like it.


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: 54bullseye on July 11, 2018, 05:38:19 PM
Here is the rod I am using for my 20/0. It's a Calstar 130RT Blank with a mint set of Tycoon / Fin-Nor guides and roller top. The butt is some sort of dark dense wood mounted in a Lakeland reel seat and ferrule. My buddy Dave Turner of    http://turnerscustomrods.com   made the rod for me. He did a very nice job on everything from the cork grip and he even made the Micarta winding checks front and back of the cork grip. He is very fussy !!!! I haven't finished the internals of the reel yet so I didn't bother with the front and back rod braces yet or the rod clamp.

I plan on breaking the rod and reel in up in PEI next fall hopefully with a couple more 20/0 owners with me !!! I will use mine in the rod holder so will use a Lakeland seat with an Aluminum bent butt in it not the nice pretty wooden butt. That's all I got !!!  Lets hear what some of the rest of you are doing ??    John Taylor   Tap on pics to blow up.


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Swami805 on July 11, 2018, 06:47:42 PM
Looks great in black Mike, aptly named too. Maybe you can join John in PEI, that would be something

Even the reel dwarfs that huge rod John, Looks great and all the "beef" you can muster in a combo


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: The Great Maudu on July 11, 2018, 07:57:58 PM
Looks great in black Mike, aptly named too. Maybe you can join John in PEI, that would be something

I would love to fish with John. I would be begging him to adopt me so I could get my hands on that Cradle Reel collection of his.


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Shark Hunter on July 11, 2018, 08:27:46 PM
Beautiful Set up JT.
What is up with that handle?
Can't say I've ever seen one like it.


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: 54bullseye on July 12, 2018, 02:12:34 AM
Well there are a lot of boats up in PEI !!  I have fished up there two different years the first time two of us went up and day one was really sloppy and I was feeling WHITE most of the day !! Lol ! We hooked up only once that day and pulled the hook after a half hour. The next we got blown out and went home. The next year we fished 4 days the first two were slow but the last two days we hooked up 6 or 7 times and brought 4 to boat side ! What a blast !! Maybe we could get a group from this board up there next fall ??

Mike I also like the black reel I think the etching came out much better on the black it shows up really nice ! You could bring your 16/0 super rig up there !!!!       John Taylor


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: broadway on July 12, 2018, 03:01:46 AM
Really nice combo, John.  I like the color choices you made... looks vintage.
Daron, brought it to my attention... whatís up with that handle? Looks sweet but I canít zoom in enough to tell the materials or style. Enjoy that set up, ainít another like it. 8)
Stay fishy
Dom


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: mo65 on July 12, 2018, 04:11:10 AM
   These reels are blowing my mind...just a jaw dropper...they all look fantastic folks! 8)


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Benni3 on July 12, 2018, 08:12:55 AM
Fantastic set up ;D


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: 54bullseye on July 12, 2018, 11:01:49 AM
Really nice combo, John.  I like the color choices you made... looks vintage.
Daron, brought it to my attention... whatís up with that handle? Looks sweet but I canít zoom in enough to tell the materials or style. Enjoy that set up, ainít another like it. 8)
Stay fishy
Dom

Here you go Dom.     http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=25857.0


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: TheReelShop on July 20, 2018, 07:18:08 PM
These kits you all have shown look amazing. Im in the process of picking up the reel to start my build. Already got a rod. Are you all going to be using these reels?


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: The Great Maudu on July 20, 2018, 07:50:58 PM
I am.  Mine wonít be complete in time to take next month. However, I canít imagine building this out and not trying it on a big fish. I wasnít buying/building to resell but I donít think using it is going to hurt the value.


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Shark Hunter on July 20, 2018, 08:17:45 PM
Mike,
If you want it for your trip, you need to get it to me.
We can talk options then. Unless you want to build it yourself.
Maybe a new set of plates and outer rings.
As far as spooling it, you are on your own there. ;)


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Vintage Offshore Tackle on July 20, 2018, 09:37:30 PM
I am planning to give mine a good workout at Prince Edward Island in September.


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: TheReelShop on July 21, 2018, 05:06:34 AM
I am.  Mine wonít be complete in time to take next month. However, I canít imagine building this out and not trying it on a big fish. I wasnít buying/building to resell but I donít think using it is going to hurt the value.

I'm not planning to resell. No way.. But considering they are exclusive I was wondering. Hopefully Today I can get my reel


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: mikeysm on July 21, 2018, 05:09:19 AM
I am planning to give mine a good workout at Prince Edward Island in September.


Randy what rod are you using with your reel? I have all the parts for my rod just no time off to take it to the rod builder. I want to match the reel to the rod so I need alan to spool the line for me.

Mike


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: The Great Maudu on July 21, 2018, 05:18:28 AM
Mike,
If you want it for your trip, you need to get it to me.
We can talk options then. Unless you want to build it yourself.
Maybe a new set of plates and outer rings.
As far as spooling it, you are on your own there. ;)

I would never turn down any help or assistance from you Brother. I get back tomorrow so Iíll get in touch on when we can meet- probably next weekend. New plates and rings sounds perfect!


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: TheReelShop on July 21, 2018, 07:32:13 AM
Curious to see the rods that end up being matched up to these monsters!!


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: The Great Maudu on July 21, 2018, 08:06:56 AM
ReelShop are you located in Panama City Beach?


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: TheReelShop on July 22, 2018, 09:18:16 AM
ReelShop are you located in Panama City Beach?


Nah I'm in Miami, FL


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Vintage Offshore Tackle on July 22, 2018, 12:16:25 PM
I am planning to give mine a good workout at Prince Edward Island in September.


Randy what rod are you using with your reel? I have all the parts for my rod just no time off to take it to the rod builder. I want to match the reel to the rod so I need alan to spool the line for me.

Mike
[/quote

Mike, I am going to be using one of the boat's stand-up rods, whichever one that the captain wants to use.  These are 5.5'-6' with a short adjustable butt and very heavy action to fish 200 lb. line.  Last year, he had me using an acid-wrapped rod (you can see in the photo that the guides are rotated counter-clockwise with the tip being upside down like a spinning rod), which looked bizarre to me at first sight, but I didn't really notice any difference in the action.


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: 54bullseye on July 22, 2018, 12:38:33 PM
That reel is gonna look BAD ASS on a stand up rod !!! Might be hard to reach around it to crank.  More power to ya !! Rod holder for me Lol !!~!~   John Taylor


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: droppedit on July 22, 2018, 01:26:56 PM
That reel is gonna look BAD ASS on a stand up rod !!! Might be hard to reach around it to crank.  More power to ya !! Rod holder for me Lol !!~!~   John Taylor

I think that reel would be perfect for your Black Hole rod. Go for it, stand up ;)




Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: 54bullseye on July 22, 2018, 01:35:09 PM
Dave I don't know as I have it in me to stand up on one of those big boys !!! Would look cool on that rod though !!! You got pics of that one ? If so post them.  John Taylor


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: mikeysm on July 23, 2018, 06:16:58 AM
Good luck Randy don't lose the reel over the side.

Mike


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Vintage Offshore Tackle on July 23, 2018, 09:34:27 AM
Thanks Mike.  I will try to keep everything inside the boat!


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: mikeysm on July 24, 2018, 06:23:02 AM
Now that I have my 20/0 reel I need a reel case for it. Any ideas on what to get. Or where can I get a custom one made.

Mike


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: thorhammer on July 24, 2018, 07:05:39 AM
If I had that reel, I'd get Mark Mayo on the site here to make one. Nothing else would do for these limited run behemoths. my 0.02.


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: mikeysm on July 25, 2018, 08:13:53 AM
Randy how capable is the 20/0 kit with all the upgrades. At catching large bluefin tuna.

Mike


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: 54bullseye on July 25, 2018, 08:54:46 AM
I am gonna answer for Randy. There has probably been more Giant Bluefin Tuna caught on stock 16/0 and 14/0 Penn Senators than any other reel or reels combined !!! So probably with some nice modifications these will be perfect for Giants !!!  The only draw back I see with these is the slower retrieve when a fish is coming at you or your trying to run him down to gain line back you will have to crank like hell ! These are gonna hold a bunch of line so shouldn't be any trouble. They should be great once fish is circling up lots of power !!! I think they will work fine.  That's my take on them.   John Taylor


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Vintage Offshore Tackle on July 25, 2018, 09:09:57 AM
Mike, I was typing this message while John Taylor was posting his, so please forgive me for any duplication.  John and I agree that more giant bluefin have been caught with the Penn 14/0-16/0 than any other reels, and probably more than with all other reels combined.  99.9% of these fish were caught with zero upgrades and without the benefit of today's HT-100 drag washers. Those reels stood up to the stress of fishing 130 lb. and sometimes 200 lb. line, even though the frame construction consisted of the stamped brass Penn reel seats, which bend very easily, and only the little brass tubes connecting the side plates, which do little to prevent torquing and misalignment of the side plates.  

The increased strength and perfect side plate alignment provided by the Tiburon one-piece aluminum frame and the heavy duty machined aluminum rod clamp more than make up for any added stresses resulting from the 20% increased width.  I plan to put the 20/0 to the test at Price Edward Island in September. I don't think that the low gear ratio will be a problem, given the huge spool diameter, but the size and weight of the big Penn, and the lack of a low gear make it less than ideal for stand up fishing, but I hope to give it a go anyway.


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: mikeysm on July 25, 2018, 09:21:06 AM
I knew all that but compared to the reels now. Maybe we have gotten to soft these days. We want it done for us. I like the idea of the challange so go for it.

Mike


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: mikeysm on July 25, 2018, 11:43:48 AM
Mark Mayo agreed to make a case for me. I need to send measurements to design the case.

Mike


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: The Great Maudu on July 25, 2018, 06:53:57 PM
How do I get in touch with Mark Mayo. I searched the members list and got nothing


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Swami805 on July 25, 2018, 07:14:31 PM
look in the for sale section  he's listed there


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: TheReelShop on July 26, 2018, 05:47:37 PM
Anyone spool theirs up yet?


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Alto Mare on July 26, 2018, 07:20:36 PM
Anyone spool theirs up yet?

http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=20497.msg293491#msg293491


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: TheReelShop on July 27, 2018, 04:08:33 AM
Anyone spool theirs up yet?

http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=20497.msg293491#msg293491

Haha wow that looks huge on that 5 gallon bucket


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Shark Hunter on August 11, 2018, 09:11:23 PM
I have had a few requests to show the Senator 20/0 compared to an Everol 20/0.
I am fortunate enough to now own 2 of the biggest reels currently manufactured in the world.
That feat was only accomplished by dealing with Everol Italy. The Mother Ship.
Paolo and Giovanni, I thank you. ;)
The frame dimensions are pretty much identical, But the Everol is wider only because of the two speed gear case, and the much beefier frame to handle the drag that no ordinary man could handle.
This is apples to oranges, but I hope you enjoy the photos.
Big Thanks to Randy for offering the only Senator 20/0.
I am proud to own one of only 20 made. ;D


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Tightlines666 on August 11, 2018, 09:19:41 PM
Nice plithe!


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: kmstorm64 on August 14, 2018, 10:21:41 AM
Darin,
You are the Best,at putting the Big Reels Together !!!

Dan

I agree!
Here are a few pics of BIGFOOT fresh from the oven. I have a special16/0 donor reel on the way that should arrive today. Iím planning on using the original crank arm from the donor reel. It has the post but the torpedo style handle is missing. Iím hoping to be able to figure out a way (with help from you all) to put a handle on it. Also, itís going to need to be re- chromed. Any suggestions about that would be appreciated as well. Randy and Tiburon a first class job all around.

Find a charmer that triple dips prior to chroming, this is the old school way. Not sure if chromium or nickel works better in the salt water environment. But I know some old School car guys who swear by Nickel chrome plating as being vastly superior to the newer style chrome process.


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Benni3 on August 21, 2018, 08:33:55 AM
20/0 & everol,,,, :o nice very nice!!! Is the senator taller


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Shark Hunter on August 21, 2018, 09:17:38 AM
About 1/8" inch.


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: TheReelShop on August 21, 2018, 06:18:30 PM
Very Very nice setups there!!!Cant wait to have mines assembled. Once I get a chance in between work and rod/reel repair, hopefully I can get to mine.

Daron are you going to fish your 20/0?


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Shark Hunter on August 21, 2018, 08:01:20 PM
Not any time soon, But someday. ;)


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Benni3 on August 24, 2018, 09:16:57 PM
Can anybody compare a 130 to 20/0?


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: 1badf350 on September 03, 2018, 05:30:10 AM
Benni do you meen a size comparison or performance?


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Benni3 on September 03, 2018, 06:51:19 AM
Benni do you meen a size comparison or performance?
size :)  for line capability,,,,, 20/0 was 2500yards 200lb braid topshot with 275yards 200lb mono ;D


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Darin Crofton on October 30, 2018, 02:16:13 AM
What a great thread to read through this morning, watching all these reels come alive is pretty dang cool!
Now I want to see someone post some in-action photos and after with some big monsters, who's first???


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: alantani on November 09, 2018, 11:09:07 PM
https://youtu.be/A8aXBfXdVac


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: The Great Maudu on February 09, 2019, 03:53:49 PM
This one is a little late to the party but I have her mostly complete. I went with the black frame and black Spool and I think it makes for a pretty good look. I have to thank John Taylor and his friend, the wizard, for making my handle design a reality. I have always liked the S curved handles and thought it would be a good fit. I still have a couple other customizations Iím going to do but next is to buy or build the right rod. Iím planning to take this rig shark fishing this summer.


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: 1badf350 on February 09, 2019, 03:59:05 PM
Wow that one is a killer!!! Nicely done !


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Darin Crofton on February 09, 2019, 03:59:45 PM
That's a beautiful 20/0 and the handle is EPIC, great job man!!!


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Alto Mare on February 09, 2019, 04:50:19 PM
That's a beautiful 20/0 and the handle is EPIC, great job man!!!
Same here! What a beautiful job and design... love it!


Sal


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: 54bullseye on February 09, 2019, 04:59:44 PM
Mike that S handle polished up nice !!! You got to thank "Striper Lou" for that little piece of red swirl acrylic he gave me that for one of my handles and that was a small piece that was left over. I wish I had thought of doing that little red insert before Rollie had finished the white Catalin material on the ends of the grasp as a nice small piece of that red blended into white ends on knob would have looked cool. Looks mint anyway.  Nice Job on reel Mike !!     John Taylor


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Benni3 on February 09, 2019, 05:37:53 PM
Looks great,,,, :D rod choice,,, ;) big,,,,and line,,,, ;D


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: The Great Maudu on February 09, 2019, 05:51:09 PM
Thank you gentlemen and thank you striper Lou for the acrylic.


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Swami805 on February 09, 2019, 06:04:13 PM
That fits that reel to a "T", outstanding. I'm a fan of counter balanced handles, looks perfect on a Senator.


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: Shark Hunter on February 09, 2019, 08:19:18 PM
Good Job Mike!
That Handle really makes it pop. :o


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: David Hall on February 09, 2019, 09:13:17 PM
That handle is incredible, fits the 20/0 perfectly.


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: TechTeach on February 10, 2019, 06:31:11 AM
Wow.

I gotta learn not to stay away from AT for too long.

Good stuff!


Title: Re: 20/0 KITS: Here they are!
Post by: broadway on February 10, 2019, 01:48:03 PM
Mike,
   Rollie's work is simply awesome, and that awesomeness rubbed itself all over that reel.
Have fun with her,
Dom