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Title: Penn Drag Kit 6-113SP
Post by: nelz on June 23, 2018, 10:07:49 AM
Does the Penn Drag Kit 6-113SP have super-thick HT100 washers like original 113h fiber ones? The originals are 2.5mm thick. (6-113SP is the 6 piece kit.)


Title: Re: Penn Drag Kit 6-113SP
Post by: alantani on June 23, 2018, 10:21:57 AM
the old "asbestos" drag washers?  they probably have them, but why?


Title: Re: Penn Drag Kit 6-113SP
Post by: nelz on June 23, 2018, 10:25:03 AM
I kinda figure a thick beefy 6 stack will be more durable than a thin 10 stack. Plus, it's cheaper. ;D


Title: Re: Penn Drag Kit 6-113SP
Post by: alantani on June 23, 2018, 10:27:32 AM
less surface area, less total drag, not smooth at all.  go with a stack of five greased carbon fiber drag washers inside the main gear. 


Title: Re: Penn Drag Kit 6-113SP
Post by: alantani on June 23, 2018, 10:28:15 AM
this comes under the category of "friends don't let friends....".


Title: Re: Penn Drag Kit 6-113SP
Post by: nelz on June 23, 2018, 10:48:12 AM
this comes under the category of "friends don't let friends....".

Thanks boss. Now if only I could catch a fish that it would actually make a difference on, lol.  ::)


Title: Re: Penn Drag Kit 6-113SP
Post by: nelz on June 23, 2018, 10:54:44 AM
the old "asbestos" drag washers?  they probably have them, but why?

Wait, I just realized, I think you are saying these are asbestos? No, the 6-113SP Kit has HT100, but it's a 6 stack.


Title: Re: Penn Drag Kit 6-113SP
Post by: alantani on June 23, 2018, 10:59:32 AM
got a link?


Title: Re: Penn Drag Kit 6-113SP
Post by: mo65 on June 23, 2018, 11:07:38 AM
https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Parts/6-113SP.aspx (https://www.mysticparts.com/PennParts/Parts/6-113SP.aspx)


Title: Re: Penn Drag Kit 6-113SP
Post by: nelz on June 23, 2018, 11:11:42 AM
Yes, that's the one, thanks Mo. So I'm just asking if the HT's in this kit are super-thick like original 113H's fiber ones?


Title: Re: Penn Drag Kit 6-113SP
Post by: Shark Hunter on June 23, 2018, 11:21:21 AM
No,
Those drag washers are probably 1.2mm thick.


Title: Re: Penn Drag Kit 6-113SP
Post by: alantani on June 23, 2018, 01:20:45 PM
sorry, i was thinking of a red side plate 4/0 senator.


Title: Re: Penn Drag Kit 6-113SP
Post by: nelz on July 02, 2018, 12:58:42 PM
Still no answer from Mystic Parts??? Helloooooo.....


Title: Re: Penn Drag Kit 6-113SP
Post by: mizmo67 on July 02, 2018, 02:11:39 PM
Hi,

Sorry, they'd already answered it, so I hadn't jumped in on this one.
HT100 is carbon fiber material..it's thin.

I don't know of anywhere to get the old asbestos or fiberglass versions except maybe eBay or other auction sites...it's been a long time since they were made.


Title: Re: Penn Drag Kit 6-113SP
Post by: nelz on July 02, 2018, 02:22:54 PM
The ones I have are fine, they look new, just wanted to replace with CF.


Title: Re: Penn Drag Kit 6-113SP
Post by: alantani on July 02, 2018, 07:30:10 PM
so the reel is a black side plate 113, correct?  that would take five of the 6-60 ht-100 drag washers inside the main gear.  it's a tight fit, but you only need to get the last slotted washer to nest inside the main gear and it will work. 


Title: Re: Penn Drag Kit 6-113SP
Post by: nelz on July 02, 2018, 09:56:49 PM
Thanks Alan. It's a black side plate 113H if that makes any difference.


Title: Re: Penn Drag Kit 6-113SP
Post by: RowdyW on July 02, 2018, 10:20:50 PM
If it has black side plates it is a 113 4/0. If it has red or maroon side plates it is a 113H. They are two different models & most of the parts don't interchange. The 6-113SP will not fit into a 113 4/0. You have to either put 6-113 CF (3) drags in it or 6-60 (5) Cf washers in it. If you want to go for the thinner 6-60 CF washers you will also have to get 1 more earred & 1 more keyed washer to make the 5 stack complete. The 5 stack will increase the drag pressure more then the 3 stack. Look up the parts in the Senator 113 4/0 section not the 113h SPECIAL Senator section.        Rudy


Title: Re: Penn Drag Kit 6-113SP
Post by: nelz on July 03, 2018, 04:56:50 AM
Rudy, mine is black and actually says "113H" on the plate.  Did I get lucky and acquire a rare specimen?

Also, it's a 3.25 to 1 ratio with steel gears (dull finish, not the shiny stainless ones).


Title: Re: Penn Drag Kit 6-113SP
Post by: nelz on July 03, 2018, 05:17:59 AM
Rudy, mine is black and actually says "113H" on the plate.  Did I get lucky and acquire a rare specimen?

"STOP THE PRESSES!"

After my last post I was left wondering, hmm... so I shone a bright flashlight on the sideplates and sure enough, they are NOT black after all. As it turns out they are actually a very deep dark maroon color. I guess they darkened like that from weathering perhaps? Anyway, now things are starting to make more sense.


Title: Re: Penn Drag Kit 6-113SP
Post by: mizmo67 on July 03, 2018, 06:28:44 AM
That means you would use the 6-113HSP kit, different diameter gearing.

Some of the old 113-H reels are really dark..but I have actually seen one that was black. Once.


Title: Re: Penn Drag Kit 6-113SP
Post by: handi2 on July 08, 2018, 12:12:41 PM
I have the Black felt washer if you still want it.

Keith