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Fishing Rods => Jon Vadney Custom Rods => Topic started by: Reel 224 on July 23, 2018, 04:01:49 PM



Title: Metallic Thread
Post by: Reel 224 on July 23, 2018, 04:01:49 PM
I,m building a custom rod for a customer that wanted all metallic thread and I'm finding that the thread pull I am using is braking when I'm pulling about 12 pulls. It's a PITA with the metallic thread. Anyone run into this problem. If so please give me a answer.

Joe


Title: Re: Metallic Thread
Post by: Swami805 on July 23, 2018, 04:19:07 PM
It's alot different than nylon. Try 4-5 wraps over your pull thread instead of 12. The metallic coating doesn't let the thread slide thru as easily but it also holds a bit better. It doesn't stretch as much as nylon either and won't take much abuse burnishing. It's a PIA but you'll get used to it after awhile.


Title: Re: Metallic Thread
Post by: Reel 224 on July 23, 2018, 04:26:56 PM
I am pulling under 5-6 wraps now, I was saying after 12 pulls the mono brakes. Maybe I should use some other material for the pull. I'm at a loss at this point of what to use.

Joe


Title: Re: Metallic Thread
Post by: droppedit on July 23, 2018, 04:29:18 PM
lots of air in it too. Keep a close eye on bubbles, they can wait for hours to appear. I've used a thick sized pull loop (8-10 lb mono) but that doesn't always help. I try to keep the metallics  for trim bands.

Dave


Title: Re: Metallic Thread
Post by: droppedit on July 23, 2018, 04:31:10 PM
I am pulling under 5-6 wraps now, I was saying after 12 pulls the mono brakes. Maybe I should use some other material for the pull. I'm at a loss at this point of what to use.

Joe

another use for swami's extra braid


Title: Re: Metallic Thread
Post by: Reel 224 on July 23, 2018, 04:39:02 PM
I am pulling under 5-6 wraps now, I was saying after 12 pulls the mono brakes. Maybe I should use some other material for the pull. I'm at a loss at this point of what to use.

Joe

another use for swami's extra braid

 ;D ;) That is a good idea! I also would use the metallic thread for trim, but this guy wants it all the way.Last time I do that for sure. But he is willing to pay extra so. :-X

Joe


Title: Re: Metallic Thread
Post by: Swami805 on July 23, 2018, 06:08:17 PM
Thatís a great idea. Never used mono for a pull thread just another piece of thread usually size D. Going to try the braid, the slick stuff


Title: Re: Metallic Thread
Post by: Cor on July 23, 2018, 11:09:42 PM
I am pulling under 5-6 wraps now, I was saying after 12 pulls the mono brakes. Maybe I should use some other material for the pull. I'm at a loss at this point of what to use.

Joe

another use for swami's extra braid
I also use braid of various diameters.

Metallic thread is a nuisance, regardless where and how ou use it!


Title: Re: Metallic Thread
Post by: Fishy247 on July 24, 2018, 12:11:02 PM
Bullard's sells some pretty good metallic thread. It doesn't seem to get the "springies" when you try to get it started. Pulls through quite nicely. I haven't had a problem with it at all. I usually 5-8 wraps then pull it through. Never did think of using braid though. I'll have to give that a try!

-Mike


Title: Re: Metallic Thread
Post by: Reel 224 on July 24, 2018, 12:42:21 PM
Bullard's sells some pretty good metallic thread. It doesn't seem to get the "springies" when you try to get it started. Pulls through quite nicely. I haven't had a problem with it at all. I usually 5-8 wraps then pull it through. Never did think of using braid though. I'll have to give that a try!

-Mike

Bullard's? Now is VooDoo rods?

Joe


Title: Re: Metallic Thread
Post by: Midway Tommy on July 24, 2018, 12:44:20 PM
Metallic can be a pain in the rear to hold on a 4 wind trim. I cut both tags at the edges, slide it back into place and add a tiny drop of super glue to keep it from unraveling. I always pull with 4lb Royal Bonyl. It's really thin diameter but tough to break.


Title: Re: Metallic Thread
Post by: Reel 224 on July 24, 2018, 01:25:22 PM
Metallic can be a pain in the rear to hold on a 4 wind trim. I cut both tags at the edges, slide it back into place and add a tiny drop of super glue to keep it from unraveling. I always pull with 4lb Royal Bonyl. It's really thin diameter but tough to break.


Tommy: In that case I will use thread cooler sealer, it's much better and it serves two purpose's.

Joe


Title: Re: Metallic Thread
Post by: oldmanjoe on July 24, 2018, 01:58:45 PM
 :)   I have been using braid for my pulls for about 2 years now .    I keep a couple on hand , i use 15 pound braid with a bead or plastic ring so i don`t loose them.
          The braid is slick and pulls easy .   leaves a smaller tunnel ,not as thick as mono .
     The braid tens to be a little too limp so i put a ghost of ca glue to stiffin the loop , makes it easier to put the tag end in loop.
     A wooden dowel the size of a pencil put in the pencil sharper makes a great thread packer also.


Title: Re: Metallic Thread
Post by: ReelFishingProblems on July 24, 2018, 03:00:34 PM
Great tips Joe, will be using some tonight. Iím building a rod for my 7 year oldís birthday. Using a 4í7Ē lamiglass top section of a broken blank.

Using pro-wrap gold metallic. Had metallic black but was clumpy and separated easily. The gold isnít having any problems.


Title: Re: Metallic Thread
Post by: Fishy247 on July 24, 2018, 03:02:02 PM
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Bullard's? Now is VooDoo rods?

It probably is. I usually get it from John Vadney. I'll try to remember to check when I get home.


Title: Re: Metallic Thread
Post by: Reel 224 on July 24, 2018, 06:17:33 PM
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Bullard's? Now is VooDoo rods?

It probably is. I usually get it from John Vadney. I'll try to remember to check when I get home.

It is from VooDoo. I know because I was dealing with Bullards when they sold out, and I was talking to Jon about that. VooDoo is now handling Bullards products line, there thread is the best in the market as far as I'm concerned and the thread coat is great. I think Jon will back me up on that.

Joe 


Title: Re: Metallic Thread
Post by: Jeri on July 24, 2018, 10:17:17 PM
I am pulling under 5-6 wraps now, I was saying after 12 pulls the mono brakes. Maybe I should use some other material for the pull. I'm at a loss at this point of what to use.

Joe


Hi Joe,

Been using 8lb braid for years, hardly ever breaks, usually lose the d**m thing before it ever gets near breaking.


Hope that helps.


Title: Re: Metallic Thread
Post by: thorhammer on July 25, 2018, 05:49:12 AM
Jon turned me on to Voodoo also. They have some nice variegated threads I don't see anywhere else.


Title: Re: Metallic Thread
Post by: Swami805 on July 25, 2018, 08:27:02 AM
Voodoo has some good finishes too. Their  CPxtra is great for refinishing a blank. I think theyíre the only place that sells it. Bullard is a good product


Title: Re: Metallic Thread
Post by: Reel 224 on July 25, 2018, 08:31:39 AM
Jeri: I had a chuckle ;D ;D ;D with the loss of the pull. I know how that goes.

Thor: I use them for most everything in thread and other rod build eqipt.

Joe


Title: Re: Metallic Thread
Post by: Fishy247 on July 25, 2018, 12:36:46 PM
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Bullard's? Now is VooDoo rods?

It probably is. I usually get it from John Vadney. I'll try to remember to check when I get home.

It is from VooDoo. I know because I was dealing with Bullards when they sold out, and I was talking to Jon about that. VooDoo is now handling Bullards products line, there thread is the best in the market as far as I'm concerned and the thread coat is great. I think Jon will back me up on that.

I'm right there with ya on your opinions Joe! He turned me onto both the thread and finish. Both are awesome to work with.

Mike