well, got this reel as trade for some rods repairs with a local guy.
is one of those trades where both parties where happy with the trade, I wanted a big reel like this eventho the reel needs some TLC and money, the handle side plate is broken and it has lots of corrossion on the frame posts but many of the rest of metal parts might just need a good clean job to look better and my friend is 2x more happy cuz he didnt wanted to put any money to repair the reel since many years and now will have some rods repaired for some "trash".
well as you can see the reel needs a deep clean job, surely a new drag stack, new handle arm and knob and of course another handle sideplate, so it looks like a nice project to get those parts one per time when I found them at a good price, no rush at all, it will be like restoring an old nonworking ford impala 66 found forgotten in the backyard.
That looks like fun, good luck bud, can't wait to see the finished product!
Alex, those side plates come up once in a while on ebay. Have patience and you will be able to bring that baby back. Dominick
Wow, that reel belongs in a museum, compadre. I wish that reel could talk, I wonder how big of a fish was able to blow that bearing right out of the plate.
I'm sure you will get it in top shape...can't wait to see the transformation.
Sal
Looks like a great project!
Also looking forward to seeing the transformation.
I've got a spare left side-plate, but no righties.
I think Mystic has them for about $40.
Good luck, Justin
Compadre, pretty sure I have some handle and brace kit bits to help you out. I will check when I can get to the shop. I replaced my 12/0 handles so I'm certain I have stock ones somewhere, just have to find them.
Quote from: thorhammer on January 17, 2019, 01:40:21 AM
Compadre, pretty sure I have some handle and brace kit bits to help you out. I will check when I can get to the shop. I replaced my 12/0 handles so I'm certain I have stock ones somewhere, just have to find them.
nice amigo, let me know
Alex, I have some used rings for it if any of yours are split, let me know I'll send them to you?
Quote from: Darin Crofton on January 17, 2019, 02:06:52 AM
Alex, I have some used rings for it if any of yours are split, let me know I'll send them to you?
thanks for the offer bud, let me open the reel up and hope for the best and it only needs a new drag stack (not that I will buy it right away ::), read somewhere that it should have some asbestos washers like the really old 114h reels I have seen) and the rest of the internal parts are in good shape, same with the rings
I'll let you know.
sounds good, I'm here if you need me 8)
Let me know what you end up needing Alex.
I own more 12/0's than any other Senator.
I also punch my own drags, and I know I have a plate with your name on it. ;)
Alex; I'll be watching for the tuneup Pictures.
Joe
Alex, at first I was going to say to send it over, but you need to be the hero on this one :).
If you get in a jam, I'm sure guys here will help out... yes me included ;)
Have fun!
Sal
Nice find Alex, good project, should look good with a bit of TLC, I would say to much pressure on the spool, possibly blue the face plate apart, good luck, looking forward to the restored photos, cheers Don.
Nice project you have going Alex, looking forward to seeing it brought back from the boneyard
That's what happens here, Alex. You can't unring the bell, the Ohana are sending you parts so you best get on with cleaning that winch up :)
PM me your address again please sir.
Quote from: thorhammer on January 17, 2019, 03:10:16 PM
That's what happens here, Alex. You can't unring the bell, the Ohana are sending you parts so you best get on with cleaning that winch up :)
you know John, its really cool to go to bed to rest after a hard working day and wake up the next morning (thats big plus, thanks God), have a good strong coffee and find this kind of response from the ohana, not that Im surprised cuz this is the way ohana works in here but still make you feel good or maybe it was just the caffeine working LOL just joking guys, really appreciate your kind offers and help; John you're right compadre, Im better off putting this reel on the working table soon to check it out, customer's reels can wait ;D ;D ::)
@ Daron, my amigo, how you end up with a sideplate with my name ??? ;) , let me check the reel before asking for any part, not surprised you have lots of this monster reels, they look and feel pretty sturdy, I will be competing against Benny, is he catch trouts on his 16/0 I can catch triggerfish with this 12/0 too ;D :D
Your 12/0 will likely see action before Daron's, and definitely before mine, so it's like we get tp go along ;D
Alex: We are all here to help one-another with what ever we can.
Joe
Alex,
I have at least two or three from parts ready to assemble.
I'm holding out for something big.
You know I help you out whenever I can.
That is how it works around here Amigo. ;)
Mi Casa Su Casa.
Quote from: thorhammer on January 17, 2019, 07:14:38 PM
Your 12/0 will likely see action before Daron's, and definitely before mine, so it's like we get tp go along ;D
I take offense to that John Boy! ;)
Mine will see Action in 5 Months, Thank You and Good Day Sir! :D
Just making sure you are awake up there, brother!! Note: I read on another post Alex has bushing model- not sure if that will impact your plate selection or not. Alex, confirm.
Quote from: thorhammer on January 18, 2019, 11:09:16 AM
Just making sure you are awake up there, brother!! Note: I read on another post Alex has bushing model- not sure if that will impact your plate selection or not. Alex, confirm.
John, look at the last picture. It's a ball bearing reel.
Sid
I might sound like a lunatic but I really don't think the reel is all that bad on the outside and will clean up really nicely. Dying to see the internals.
Best of luck,
Frank
Quote from: sdlehr on January 18, 2019, 12:44:51 PM
Quote from: thorhammer on January 18, 2019, 11:09:16 AM
Just making sure you are awake up there, brother!! Note: I read on another post Alex has bushing model- not sure if that will impact your plate selection or not. Alex, confirm.
John, look at the last picture. It's a ball bearing reel.
Sid
excellent. thanks, Sid!
Quote from: Frank on January 18, 2019, 12:55:52 PM
I might sound like a lunatic but I really don't think the reel is all that bad on the outside and will clean up really nicely. Dying to see the internals.
Best of luck,
Frank
I'm with Frank, I think it'll clean up nicely.
Quote from: Shark Hunter on January 18, 2019, 07:28:30 AM
Quote from: thorhammer on January 17, 2019, 07:14:38 PM
Your 12/0 will likely see action before Daron's, and definitely before mine, so it's like we get tp go along ;D
I take offense to that John Boy! ;)
Mine will see Action in 5 Months, Thank You and Good Day Sir! :D
LOL now that was funny, I really dont know if I will be using this reel before 5 months, so Daron takes the lead ;)
I will try to have it built and ready to go before that, but the hard part will be to find the time to fishing focusing to catch a big prey like a shark or a big mama Grouper, sound like fun to try to catch something that can eat you up.
Quote from: Frank on January 18, 2019, 12:55:52 PM
I might sound like a lunatic but I really don't think the reel is all that bad on the outside and will clean up really nicely. Dying to see the internals.
Best of luck,
Frank
thanks Frank, upon a quick further and closer review the reel is mostly covered by old dirt with grease and some superficial corrosion on the reel seat the rest marks are some scratches and dents from normal use and I have nothing against that, they just add character to the reel, I also think it should clean up nicely, finger crossed to fing everything inside in good shape.
Quote from: Shark Hunter on January 18, 2019, 07:25:40 AM
Alex,
I have at least two or three from parts ready to assemble.
I'm holding out for something big.
You know I help you out whenever I can.
That is how it works around here Amigo. ;)
Mi Casa Su Casa.
not surprise here amigo, I know you are a classy guy
the world would be different if at least half of the people act like this ohana site.
I try to help local guys and kids that have hard time with fishing equipment, with some
free parts, accesories and labor whenever l can, is my small part for spreading the ohana chain up
to Baja, Mx., I learned to act like that from all you guys.
decided to take some time to open the reel and check the rest of the internal parts and found this one needs extra TLC lots of crude grease, mud, sand, etc but not excesive corrosion and not broken parts other than the right side plate.
spool shafts seems not bend, hopefully after installing everything again with a new sideplate it doesnt bind, seems like the handle sideplate got broken by a big hit from a fall or something, cuz the drag star have 2 tips bent and one of the screws of the bridge is also bent at the tip
some others
all 4 rings are with some superficial corrosion, nothing that a good bath with vinegar wont take away
at the end, seems like I will need:
- New drag washers and metal (drag kit)
- new handle or just a 12/0 arm, I have a chinese big knob I can use.
- new handle sideplate with bearing
- reel clamp with nuts
- maybe a new bearing on the non handle sideplate cap
so, it wasnt that bad ;D ;D ::)
that is a good job for evporust, nice start though.
Joe
Alex, I couldn't come up with a handle, but I did come up with a nice arm from a 50VSW that fits that sleeve- you'll have to try it and see if the knob hardware fits the hole. Do you need clamp kit or turnbuckle brace kit, or both?
i have some brace bits as mentioned but i may have more after i build my CC 9/0's. Lemme see this week what it's gonna look like.
Alex,
I can send a new stock handle, drag kit and side plate.
There is only one catch.
You have to catch a shark on it from the shore. ;)
It has the steel gears, so that is a plus.
Quote from: Shark Hunter on January 22, 2019, 11:54:23 PM
Alex,
I can send a new stock handle, drag kit and side plate.
There is only one catch.
You have to catch a shark on it from the shore. ;)
It has the steel gears, so that is a plus.
you're making it hard amigo to decide amigo Daron,
let me see if Im ready for that quest
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hmmm Challenge Accepted !!
sending you a PM
Looking good buddy! I want to see some video of said shark being caught ;D
Quote from: Darin Crofton on January 23, 2019, 03:13:11 AM
Looking good buddy! I want to see some video of said shark being caught ;D
HAHA me too, I also would like to get a video of a shark caught on the beach
this zone of Baja is not known for good shark fishing from the shore, the tide goes long way when is low time, you can do clam digging because the bottom of the sea get dry for 1/2 mile or 800mts two times per day, the low tide gets steady for 2 or 3 hours them the high tide starts and it takes normally 4-5 hrs average to get to the normal point on the beach, and so on, every day, depending on the moon calendar some days the movement of the high and low tide are more notorious than others, thats one of the reason surf fishing is no bueno here even fishing with bait, cuz the current when the tide is coming is pretty strong even a 8oz spider lead gets returned by the current, normally for some surf fishing action I need to drive 2hrs south, the low and hign tide are not the same than here in San Felipe and you can do some normal fishing
so, this challenge needs to be performed in my favorite place, the beaches of Gonzaga Bay.
Wow, what an adventure that sounds like, hope you get to do it!
Alex,
Dug out your parts this evening.
Have the sideplate, 2 new bearings, two handles, Metals for the drag stack and Delrin's for top and bottom, but I can't find any drag washers.
I will cut them for you next weekend.
I have a lot going on and I'm not getting in the cold garage tonight.
The handles on the bottom are going to Darin.
I have been keeping him waiting too.
Trying to keep everything in Balance takes all I have.
I apologize for the delay Compadre,
Daron
You're a good man Daron ;).
Sal
Quote from: Alto Mare on January 28, 2019, 04:37:04 AM
You're a good man Daron ;).
Sal
You got that right, Sal! Thanks for the handles, Daron!!!
I Learned from the Best. ;)
Just trying to keep my word.
It is always good, it just takes me a little time these days.
Daron my man, no need to apologize compadre
I have no hurry to finish the big 12/0, so take your time,
I really appreciate it, sharks also appreciate if you take more time to search for the parts.
just wait for a warm day to take a look on that cold garage.
Good man Darin, at least you don't have to put the beer in the refrigerator, unless you don't want them to freeze. ;D Dominick
Punched your drag washers last night Amigo.
My Methods are crude, but effective. ;)
well, with a little bit of shame but also applying the old saying, its better late than never, I took this project reel back to the working bench for good.
it was a really cool reel to work on it, one can see how the things were made back in the 60's-80's, some steel parts of the reel are as good as when they were new, others you can see the pass of time but still in pretty good shape, anyway, I decided to take the reel and ATTACK each part that needed work (actually all reel parts needed a lot of TLC).
first I worked on the main gear and pinion
check how it was the set when I took them out the reel
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some rust remover, sanding and vinegar was use to clean the main gear and the pinion
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check the quality of the steel on this pinion!! this thing might have 40-50 years and looks as good as new
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then I moved to the spool, which has some rust and bit of pitted green corrosion on it, I left it on a bath of vinegar for a complete day, them cleaned it really good, did a light sanding on the pitted zones to leave it smooth, then I proceeded to put a light coat of white primer, then a coat of blank paint for automotive motor parts and lastly a coat of polyurethane as clearcoat protection.
the rust remover did a wonderful work here, it brought the shine of the steel back on the spool, check the sides of the spool
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next it was the time for the bridge and sleeve.
this how it looks once cleaned and lightly sanded
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but, HOUSTON we have a problem, one of the teeth of the sleeve is gone!
I dont know what kind of Sea Monster torn off a teeth of the sleeve like that, check !
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luckily the rest of the teeth are still in good shape, it would be nice to know if that monster won the battle or if the sleeve was strong enough to fight the fish to the end.
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remember the star? it was bent, maybe the reel fell down and got a good hit which broke the right sideplate by the bearing and also bent one of the star tips.
well, I tried to straightened out and done it but I heard a Crack :( too late that tip is now broken on the lower part, ooh well I think I will try to use the reel as is until really using it a lot and NEED it to get that star new.
pretty sure that tip will fall down if I tilt it or as soon as I touch it to increase the drag
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this is is how all the parts looked before putting them back on the reel, in the upper zone you can see some parts that my compadre Mr.Shark sent me few years ago :-[ :P thanks again Daron and also some parts that were sent by my compadre John (thorhammer).
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now the new carbon washers and steel washers on the main gear, they flushed pretty good on the top of the main gear
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and the rest are some pictures of the reel completely done and 98% ready to fish
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this reel is MASIVE !!
check the size compared to my Sealine 900H (which I though it was masive), my 114h t4n1 XXN and my 112h
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ok, this reel is still not ready to fish, once it was completely built I noticed the star was bending against the sideplate, it was pretty late and I was tired so, I didnt knew if I installed something wrongly inside the maingear or something and dont felt like taking out the sideplates to check so, I checked the schematics and noticed I still miss a spacing sleeve between the spring washer on the top of the main gear and the star.
so, I will order that spacing sleeve along an extra dog and spring, I will double dogged this weapon later on hopefully it wont take as long as took me to repair it :P ::)
Alex, the before and after pic says it all. GREAT save!! I forgot I sent you anything, and don't know what it was, but glad if I did- handle maybe? That spool would've kept on going with a coat of wax, but you did a bang-up job on it! I did a really bad 9/0 spool that Drew had actually blasted for the purpose and didn't get to; I need to bake it.
Great work, compadre!
Looks great man, for members that did not know, a 10/0 plate would fit a 12/0, the diametre is the same, now some pics of the shark please, cheers Don.
Quote from: thorhammer on November 28, 2022, 12:28:11 PMAlex, the before and after pic says it all. GREAT save!! I forgot I sent you anything, and don't know what it was, but glad if I did- handle maybe? That spool would've kept on going with a coat of wax, but you did a bang-up job on it! I did a really bad 9/0 spool that Drew had actually blasted for the purpose and didn't get to; I need to bake it.
Great work, compadre!
you sent me the handle blade (I still need to find a thick shaft knob for it) and the reel brace kit.
I was going to left the spool alone with just the light sanding, it felt good enough but naah, my OCD hit and I had to go the whole mile on it.
Quote from: Donnyboat on November 28, 2022, 01:32:09 PM.....now some pics of the shark please, cheers Don.
:fish :fish :d
hopefully soon, no promises, tho.
Glad to see you finally revive that Dinosaur Alex.
All you really need is a new sleeve and star.
Sure I got some around somewhere.
Those steel gears are tough as they come.
That reel can handle giants.
yep, it took me some time to get it ready but finally is up to try its luck vs a sea monster
thanks Again Daron