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Fishing => Fishing Line, Knots, Splices and Rigging => Topic started by: Reel 224 on January 22, 2019, 10:08:06 PM

Title: Terminal Tackle knot
Post by: Reel 224 on January 22, 2019, 10:08:06 PM
Here is a good knot for Braid line to terminal tackle.

Joe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bialoXkMwHI
Title: Re: Terminal Tackle knot
Post by: xjchad on January 22, 2019, 10:18:52 PM
Interesting knot Joe.  I use a Palomar knot and have never had a failure.  I think either one would outlast the strength of the main strand of braid.
Title: Re: Terminal Tackle knot
Post by: Reel 224 on January 22, 2019, 10:23:30 PM
That's true, I'm the kind of guy that tries anything once ;) ;D so I'll try it and see if I like it.

Joe
Title: Re: Terminal Tackle knot
Post by: Gfish on January 22, 2019, 10:28:44 PM
Cool, line doubled-up and no tag end to deal with.
Title: Re: Terminal Tackle knot
Post by: Reel 224 on January 22, 2019, 10:32:20 PM
Quote from: Gfish on January 22, 2019, 10:28:44 PM
Cool, line doubled-up and no tag end to deal with.

There is a tag line but they just don't show you the finish end. You have to clip it off close to the knot.

Joe
Title: Re: Terminal Tackle knot
Post by: xjchad on January 22, 2019, 10:32:35 PM
Quote from: Reel 224 on January 22, 2019, 10:23:30 PM
That's true, I'm the kind of guy that tries anything once ;) ;D so I'll try it and see if I like it.

Joe

Right on!  Let us know what you think!

Quote from: Gfish on January 22, 2019, 10:28:44 PM
Cool, line doubled-up and no tag end to deal with.

There is a tag end G, it's just further up the line.  ;)
Title: Re: Terminal Tackle knot
Post by: boon on January 22, 2019, 11:52:27 PM
I only tie three knots in braid. An arbor knot to attach it to the spool, and a PR knot or FG knot to tie it to a leader. Braid cuts into itself too readily to obtain good strength when tying to terminal tackle, tie it to some mono or fluoro then tie that to the terminal tackle.
Title: Re: Terminal Tackle knot
Post by: Frank on January 23, 2019, 12:09:25 AM
It looks really good, Joe!
Title: Re: Terminal Tackle knot
Post by: Reel 224 on January 23, 2019, 12:43:48 AM
Quote from: boon on January 22, 2019, 11:52:27 PM
I only tie three knots in braid. An arbor knot to attach it to the spool, and a PR knot or FG knot to tie it to a leader. Braid cuts into itself too readily to obtain good strength when tying to terminal tackle, tie it to some mono or fluoro then tie that to the terminal tackle.

I do that also, but as I said I'll try anything once. My thought is " nothing ventured,nothing gained". So I loose that 60# striper  :'( :'( ;) ;D

Joe
Title: Re: Terminal Tackle knot
Post by: Tiddlerbasher on January 23, 2019, 01:41:50 AM
Over the last couple of years I've only used hollow cored braid. As such I've only used an arbor knot to attach it to a spool. I've then ca spliced the braid to a top shot as required - NO KNOTS. No failures reported so far ;)
Each to his own  :-\ - but this is the system I have settled on
Title: Re: Terminal Tackle knot
Post by: CapeFish on January 23, 2019, 08:21:09 AM
what about the really weak knot to double the line? Surely should rather use a bimini or just double the line instead of that weak double figure 8? In mono that knot is reasonably ok for light fishing situations but not in braid.
Title: Re: Terminal Tackle knot
Post by: Keta on January 23, 2019, 03:44:14 PM
 A figure 8 knot will slip with spectra but a 3 turn overhand knot does not.  The loop knot shown here is a 2 turn overhand not a figure 8 too.
Title: Re: Terminal Tackle knot
Post by: CapeFish on January 24, 2019, 10:10:56 AM
Quote from: Keta on January 23, 2019, 03:44:14 PM
A figure 8 knot will slip with spectra but a 3 turn overhand knot does not.  The loop knot shown here is a 2 turn overhand not a figure 8 too.

Sorry, wrong knot name, I know it won't slip, but that knot used to double the line is surely going to weaken it really badly?
Title: Re: Terminal Tackle knot
Post by: thorhammer on January 24, 2019, 12:13:34 PM
I use a surgeon to double up, because I'm sadly not adept at Bimini, then double uni to mono or fluoro, cause i use a uni for everything, basically- because it's a uni. I've put a lot of stress on this configuration and I don't recall any failure on a fish (fishing at drag strength), which includes some nasty groupers and donks. I might have broken one on purpose on a snag, and I generally rig the leader to strength to break and not the braid. Seems to work pretty well for me. More than one way to skin a cat- as my eyes get foggier I find it easier on the uni as I can tie by feel and muscle memory and in the dark. I'm general fishing for stuff less than 50-60 lbs; I'd want a bimini if I was tuna fishing.
Title: Re: Terminal Tackle knot
Post by: Keta on January 24, 2019, 03:05:10 PM
Quote from: CapeFish on January 24, 2019, 10:10:56 AM
Quote from: Keta on January 23, 2019, 03:44:14 PM
A figure 8 knot will slip with spectra but a 3 turn overhand knot does not.  The loop knot shown here is a 2 turn overhand not a figure 8 too.

Sorry, wrong knot name, I know it won't slip, but that knot used to double the line is surely going to weaken it really badly?

The knot tied with 2 turns is a surgeons loop, I guess a 3 turn one would be a 3 turn surgeons loop.  In mono a surgeons loop is a relatively weak knot but a 3 turn one in Spectra isn't.  I like to "finish" my loop knot with a Uni or a Rizutto, the Rizutto knot is one I've used for over a decade but just learned it had a name.   Jerry Brown is the one that told me to use the 3 turn surgeons loop.
Title: Re: Terminal Tackle knot
Post by: thorhammer on January 24, 2019, 03:08:32 PM
yep, three turn Surgeon is what I'm using.
Title: Re: Terminal Tackle knot
Post by: Cuttyhunker on July 02, 2019, 01:05:36 PM
I fish a double ended lines on all my casting rods, have alway done 5 turns on the overhand portion, taking the loop over the end of the snap is an interesting finish, if the double line is no longer a loop on the terminal end, just 2 tags an improved clinch knot with 5 turns before the 2 tucks has been bulletproof for me.  I like the loop long enough to reach back the reel when I cast.