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Title: Pet Peeves
Post by: Midway Tommy on February 06, 2019, 04:27:51 AM
I have a couple of reel repair pet peeves and here's one of them.

While I'm well aware that graphite is a very good, slick, lubricant, nothing irritates me more when opening up a reel to do a complete restoration and service than to find that someone, at some point, decided to use graphite grease or add graphite powder to the internal lubricants. That stuff is near impossible to completely rid from all the little nooks & crannies, plus, it dirties up all my cleaning equipment.   :(  I've only ran into it a dozen or so times but I hate that stuff!  >:(  I grit my teeth every time I come across it!   ::)   
Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: alantani on February 06, 2019, 04:29:55 AM
you know that baby blue grease used for wheel axle bearings in boat trailers?  yeah, that stuff.......   :-\
Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Zimbass on February 06, 2019, 01:14:17 PM
Worse still is that Red Hot Sauce........... !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Cor on February 06, 2019, 02:50:21 PM
Quote from: Zimbass on February 06, 2019, 01:14:17 PM
Worse still is that Red Hot Sauce........... !!!!!!!!!!!!!

What's that, muti...made in Harare? ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: thorhammer on February 06, 2019, 02:53:30 PM
When I've completely cleaned, repaired and serviced a friend's reel for free and it comes back a few months later with corrosion because they can't be bothered to at least water hose it....
Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: sdlehr on February 06, 2019, 03:08:19 PM
Quote from: Cor on February 06, 2019, 02:50:21 PM
Quote from: Zimbass on February 06, 2019, 01:14:17 PM
Worse still is that Red Hot Sauce........... !!!!!!!!!!!!!

What's that, muti...made in Harare? ;D ;D
Quantum "Hot Sauce" is a red grease said to bond to the metal surface just as TSI-321 is said to.
Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: exp2000 on February 06, 2019, 03:10:22 PM
Left hand reels - I hatem!

It's kinda like trying to read something in a mirror?

I got caught out on a Curado a while back.

Everything worked fine till I attached the crank handle side-plate. Then the thumb bar release mechanism would lock up.

Now the Roller Clutch Bearing for Curados is beveled on one side so you know the correct orientation for assembly. But with a left hand reel, the correct orientation is actually incorrect.

It took a while for the penny to drop and I could have slapped myself when it finally did!

Doh!
~




Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: festus on February 06, 2019, 04:03:33 PM
Shimming the old Mitchell 300 spinners. 

Maybe l'm expecting too much from something 50 years old, but I can't get them to operate as smoothly as a D-A-M Quick, Shakespeare, Mitchell 308, Pfleuger or others from the same era.

Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: mo65 on February 06, 2019, 04:48:42 PM
Quote from: festus on February 06, 2019, 04:03:33 PM
Shimming the old Mitchell 300 spinners. 

Maybe l'm expecting too much from something 50 years old, but I can't get them to operate as smoothly as a D-A-M Quick, Shakespeare, Mitchell 308, Pfleuger or others from the same era.



   Yeah Chester...I'm afraid this issue is one even a genie can't fix. My assessment is all those straight cut gears are never going to be as smooth or quiet as helical cut gears. All in all, it's still a great design, time has proven that. 8)
Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Cor on February 06, 2019, 06:16:03 PM
Quote from: sdlehr on February 06, 2019, 03:08:19 PM
Quote from: Cor on February 06, 2019, 02:50:21 PM
Quote from: Zimbass on February 06, 2019, 01:14:17 PM
Worse still is that Red Hot Sauce........... !!!!!!!!!!!!!
What's that, muti...made in Harare? ;D ;D
Quantum "Hot Sauce" is a red grease said to bond to the metal surface just as TSI-321 is said to.
. ;D ;D....and I thought it was some bearing lubricant supposed to make your reel spin forever ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: sharkman on February 06, 2019, 07:55:01 PM
Mine is spinning reels packed to the rim with grease.
Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: reel man on February 06, 2019, 09:33:30 PM
Mine is a surf fishing reel that's been dropped in the sand
Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Reel 224 on February 06, 2019, 09:34:19 PM
Some people bringing me reels that they tried to fix and couldn't, someone's shop attempting to fix and broke the reel. But I like a challenge, I have learned allot from the reels and guns in the past.

So I guess that's not a pet peeve  ;) ;D

Joe
Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Dominick on February 06, 2019, 09:35:32 PM
Quote from: reel man on February 06, 2019, 09:33:30 PM
Mine is a surf fishing reel that's been dropped in the sand

Let he who has not dropped a reel in the sand, cast the first stone.  Dominick
Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Reel 224 on February 06, 2019, 09:43:13 PM
Quote from: Dominick on February 06, 2019, 09:35:32 PM
Quote from: reel man on February 06, 2019, 09:33:30 PM
Mine is a surf fishing reel that's been dropped in the sand

Let he who has not dropped a reel in the sand, cast the first stone.  Dominick

seems like I heard that before but in a different context.

Joe
Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Lunker Larry on February 07, 2019, 02:23:13 AM
When you get a reel and all the screws are chewed up from someone using the wrong size screwdriver.
Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Zimbass on February 07, 2019, 03:59:29 AM
Quote from: Cor on February 06, 2019, 06:16:03 PM
Quote from: sdlehr on February 06, 2019, 03:08:19 PM
Quote from: Cor on February 06, 2019, 02:50:21 PM
Quote from: Zimbass on February 06, 2019, 01:14:17 PM
Worse still is that Red Hot Sauce........... !!!!!!!!!!!!!
What's that, muti...made in Harare? ;D ;D
Quantum "Hot Sauce" is a red grease said to bond to the metal surface just as TSI-321 is said to.
. ;D ;D....and I thought it was some bearing lubricant supposed to make your reel spin forever ;D ;D

Now we have our Ohana confused with Muti Cor !!! (here we spell it Mooti). ;D
Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Frank on February 07, 2019, 08:36:09 PM
Quote from: Lunker Larry on February 07, 2019, 02:23:13 AM
When you get a reel and all the screws are chewed up from someone using the wrong size screwdriver.

That drives me nuts too.
Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: foakes on February 07, 2019, 09:43:27 PM
Quote from: Lunker Larry on February 07, 2019, 02:23:13 AM
When you get a reel and all the screws are chewed up from someone using the wrong size screwdriver.

Yes, that is always dissapointing — but on the positive side — if they knew how to use the proper size screwdriver as we do — I likely would not get their reel for a service or rebuild.  They would do it themselves!😀😀😀

As to the grease and graphite — that is always a mess.  Especially that crud that has shiny stuff in it.  If this is inside of a plastic reel — you might as well just do the best you can by cleaning the parts and wiping off the inside of the housing.  Otherwise, any cleaner you use will ruin the frame and plastic parts.

Another pet peeve of mine — is those cheap spinners from China with the Phillips head screws self threaded into graphite or plastic.  The heads usually distort even with the proper screwdriver because they are so soft.  Must be made of solder, or something like that.

I generally let my clients know that these reels are not worth repairing.  Best to toss in the garbage and buy another from Wal-Bomb.  I generally just strip off the spool, crank, and bail assembly — and the rest goes into the trash.

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: oldmanjoe on February 07, 2019, 10:10:52 PM
 :)  Mine would be  line needs to be level on the spool , not looking like mountain tops and valleys.
Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Beemac on June 14, 2019, 01:40:40 PM
I love it when I hear; The reel has never been apart.
Nothing is in the correct order when you open it up.
Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: farnorthlbg on June 22, 2019, 01:58:32 AM
Mine is receiving a magsealed reel that has been serviced previously by a shop/person who doesn't have mag oil to replenish the seals with but still takes on the job >:(

Usually results in new a ARB, head bearing from water intrusion (due to the big gaping hole where the seal should be), anti-reverse cam if the particular model has one and of course magsealed line roller bearings.  Expensive repairs created from fraudulent workmanship, see it too often and it does my head in!


Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: George6308 on June 22, 2019, 02:10:04 AM
Red Locktight over used, older Penn's corroded from not being cleaned nor cared for, messed up screw slots from careless use of non fitting screwdrivers, over tightened screws, and not having the place and time to exercise my Penn collection.
Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Newell Nut on June 23, 2019, 05:12:50 PM
The pet peeve for me is building a nice Newell with Tib frame for a guy. Tell to wash it thoroughly with plenty of fresh water after each use. 6 months later he calls me about the spool no spinning well and making noise. I go to the head boat where he works to get the reel. The frame is covered in electrolysis. That just makes me seriously angry when laziness just ruins a beautiful reel. Then the guy lies telling me he washes it. I guess he uses salt water wash.

Dwight
Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: foakes on June 23, 2019, 09:21:50 PM
Quote from: Newell Nut on June 23, 2019, 05:12:50 PM
The pet peeve for me is building a nice Newell with Tib frame for a guy. Tell to wash it thoroughly with plenty of fresh water after each use. 6 months later he calls me about the spool no spinning well and making noise. I go to the head boat where he works to get the reel. The frame is covered in electrolysis. That just makes me seriously angry when laziness just ruins a beautiful reel. Then the guy lies telling me he washes it. I guess he uses salt water wash.

Dwight

That would bother me also, Dwight.

Some folks just have to have everything done for them — can't take any personal responsibility, are lazy, then try to blame someone else.  That is a problem with a large portion of our folks today.

My grandmother's favorite saying about folks like that, was —

"He's so lazy — he could be knee deep in a river — and die of thirst".

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Dominick on June 24, 2019, 03:48:57 AM
Nice one Fred.  May I use that one?  Dominick
Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: foakes on June 24, 2019, 04:14:04 AM
Quote from: Dominick on June 24, 2019, 03:48:57 AM
Nice one Fred.  May I use that one?  Dominick

Grandma Lena would be pleased if you did, Dominick —

Got whatever common sense I might have, mostly from her — she passed on in '68 at the age of 87.

I do not think a day goes by — that I don't appreciate some part of her life.

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Gfish on June 24, 2019, 02:01:54 PM
Yeah. You're describing my favorite kinda people in society, especially in the workplace. Not your Grandma Fred, I'm being sarcastic about irresponsible people.

Plastic threaded parts, or plastic used anywhere in stress areas.
Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Lunker Larry on June 25, 2019, 04:13:24 PM
When you get a reel with stripped out threads in composite/plastic. You know the ones you unscrew and the composite/plastic threads are still on the screw.
Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Midway Tommy on June 25, 2019, 05:12:49 PM
Quote from: Lunker Larry on June 25, 2019, 04:13:24 PM
When you get a reel with stripped out threads in composite/plastic. You know the ones you unscrew and the composite/plastic threads are still on the screw.

In my world those are called throwaway reels. I wouldn't buy one let alone spending the time to service one. If we all boycotted those garbage reels the big boys would be forced to go back to a little quality in their design and manufacturing.
Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Donnyboat on June 25, 2019, 05:26:08 PM
My pet peeve, and it happens often, I dont catch enough fish, then the old girl chews my ear, cheers Don.
Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Ron Jones on June 25, 2019, 06:36:11 PM
They always seem to be happier when you come home with fish, don't they?
The Man
Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Donnyboat on June 25, 2019, 11:26:31 PM
Correct Ron, hard to get her to clean them though, cheers Don.
Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: David Hall on June 26, 2019, 12:42:32 AM
My pet peeve is getting crank phone calls while I'm trying to fish.  Seems like every 5-10 minutes my cell phone is ringing with some numbskull calling to ask me questions about of all things, work!  What is with these people thinking just because they mail me a paycheck every month that I should stop what I'm doing and answer questions.  Reely gets on my nerves.
Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: Ron Jones on June 26, 2019, 01:51:52 PM
Leave your cell phone at home.
The Man
Title: Re: Pet Peeves
Post by: David Hall on June 26, 2019, 07:16:47 PM
Quote from: Ron Jones on June 26, 2019, 01:51:52 PM
Leave your cell phone at home.
The Man

I could leave it home but by answering the calls I can call them work and justify sending them a bill and I get paid while I am fishing.