Friend asked me if I would mag one of his reels...... I agreed, but knowing him told him "only if it is clean"
Have you ever seen a reel so filthy and in such a condition?
This guy fishes nearly as much as I do. My stuff looks used and even worn but neglected and filthy, no ways!
I feel a bit insulted and next time Ill refuse to help him out, or charge him to clean the reel first.
Yeah, I get the odd one like that.
Full of last years sand and the like.
Once I got a bait-runner with barnacles growing in it.
When he came to pick it up, the guy told me he found the reel in the tidal zone at Eighty Mile beach!
Doh!
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My favorite:
(http://alantani.com/gallery/23/13259_25_02_18_6_59_50.jpeg)
I occasionally do a few reels for friends as a favour and have had one or two full of nasty stuff inside but haven't seen one so neglected externally. The owner is obviously not concerned with the appearance of the reel so I'd just give it a quick dip or spray with whatever degreaser you have so you can work on magging it. It depends on how good a friend he is but it probably needs a bit of a service as well ;D
Mike
Quote from: Long Enuff on March 11, 2019, 12:41:47 PM
My favorite:
I Can live with the corrosion, but this thing is just covered in grime, like it has never been rinsed of or cleaned.
Had some like that too Corne. Felt like telling the owner to go somewhere else, but, the reel needed love, and could not leave it to die. It's not about the friend/customer, sometimes it's about the reel !!
Cheers,
Terry.
Some time ago I had fun turning this:
(https://i.imgur.com/9GKxDej.jpg)
into this:
(https://i.imgur.com/ePGi3tH.jpg)
Most satisfying! :D
~A~
Thats a great job you done with the Senator Lannie, we have had the pleasure of viewing some of you work before, second to none, cheers Don.
Quote from: Aiala on March 11, 2019, 02:37:23 PM
Some time ago I had fun turning this:
into this:
Most satisfying! :D
~A~
Great job, but would you do that free and gratis for a friend, knowing that in 3 month time it will again be a mess?
What you've done here is a labour of love!
Fishin' reels are like trucks. One guy washes his every time a speck of mud hits it...the next guy has to clear out a spot to sit when he crawls in it. 8)
Quote from: Aiala on March 11, 2019, 02:37:23 PM
Some time ago I had fun turning this:
(https://i.imgur.com/9GKxDej.jpg)
into this:
(https://i.imgur.com/ePGi3tH.jpg)
Most satisfying! :D
~A~
Hi A, where you been hiding? :)
I recall that build- like the ax on its third head and fifth handle :)
You are enabling him to continue his poor reel care by agreeing to mag and restore his filthy reel, Cor...
Everyone is different in how they approach things — if you continue servicing, magging, and rebuilding his good reels turned to junk — he will never know or learn the difference.
This is not fair to him, or you.
If this situation were on my bench — I would do one of (2) things:
Let him know right now, that the reel is not worth magging and servicing — it is too far gone in the condition he has allowed it to get to. And that you would be glad to mag a replacement reel, if he wants to buy one.
Or, do your magic on it (we all on Alan's site can turn crud into gold) — then present him a bill for $200.
Then, add the mag cost, and knock off $50 for a "friend" discount from the total bill.
If he says — well I could buy another new one for that much...just say, yeah, good idea...
Sometimes — we just need to be brutally honest with our friends and clients — no other way, IMO.
It is not friendship, or even close to fair — that you should waste your time and experience by not telling this guy the truth (which honestly, he already knows — he is just hoping you will clean up his cruddy reel) — and you will get the reel back in the same bad condition in a year or two, anyway...then how stupid will you feel? I speak from experience...friendship is not a one-way street.
As to Aiala's reel, John — as long as one part is original — it is a restore. In Aiala's case — it appears that the dog spring is original...😅😅😅
Best,
Fred
Quote from: foakes on March 11, 2019, 04:57:36 PM
As to Aiala's reel, John — as long as one part is original — it is a restore. In Aiala's case — it appears that the dog spring is original...😅😅😅
Nyuk-nyuk-nyuk... ;D
True, most (not all) of the externals were replaced... but as often happens with these (supposed) wrecks, the internals were actually in excellent shape, though coated with what looked like ossified axle grease. Nothing a days-long soak in Simple Green wouldn't cure. (However, Fred, I
did replace the dog spring... (https://querytracker.net/forum/Smileys/default/wag.gif) )
As to where I've been, John, mostly at the gun range and collecting more firearms... (https://querytracker.net/forum/Smileys/default/guns.gif) Even got my CCW! (https://querytracker.net/forum/Smileys/default/woot.gif)
~
A~
Fred, I bleeve you are correct. The old-skool maroon plates, amber knob with pink Ande is a favorite, but all of Lady A's builds are sweet (hint: we haven't seen one from you in a while :) ...i would only like it better if i could find a vintage bulk spool of Stren Gold in 50lb test.
My two nastiest reclamations, without major structural part replacement:
First, an Abu Eon 6 series i bought on a St Croix rod for $20. Had I known it had dead baby roaches in it, I would have just kept the rod and dumped the reel. Amazingly the free spool wasnt bad even with the pestilence inside. I quickly threw the whole reel in simple green and washed my hands....if the Green ate it, so be it...but actually it cleaned up really nicely.
2, a SLOSH30 my cousin reeled up off the pier (Tsunami rod was also refurbished). I was amazed the barnacles actually came cleanly off the graphite. I replaced a bearing and added carbontex drag, with a handle I found on Alan's garage floor. Back in bidness.
Cor, to your original input: Fred has a point, I recently serviced and repaired some neglected (i.e., not rinsed like what you have there) some Penns for a friend...got them back two months later to fix something else or other...and they had corrosion again from neglect...I made my feelings clear on the subject simple rinse after a free service...
The prollem is, can common sense outweigh our will to take on a challenge that usually is not good sense, in terms of cost and time? For me as a hobbyist, no...I have no sense at all, and it's not the reels fault it gave it's all and was abused. If you are in a business, then a different story, perhaps...
Aiaila, I figured you were blazing away in the desert!
Good to hear from you Aiala. My favorite someone posted several years ago was a reel with cockroaches in it. Yuck. We used to have to share our apartments with those disgusting insects when I lived in NY. Dominick
I really enjoy a challenge. So to expand on Fred's psychotherapy, if it's a desirable reel I'd go ahead and restore back to as near new condition as I possibly can and when he comes to pick it up present him with a bill for parts & excessive time. At that point he'll get the point and if he refuses to pay I now have added a decent reel to my arsenal. There'e more than one way, they say, to skin a cat. ;)
I'm usually pretty good at spottin' these kinda guys. He's obviously never going to open the reel...just tell him you magged the thing. Screw that side plate back on, dirt and all, done. 8)
Quote from: mo65 on March 11, 2019, 06:19:20 PM
I'm usually pretty good at spottin' these kinda guys. He's obviously never going to open the reel...just tell him you magged the thing. Screw that side plate back on, dirt and all, done. 8)
;D Way to go Mo. Dominick
Quote from: mo65 on March 11, 2019, 06:19:20 PM
I'm usually pretty good at spottin' these kinda guys. He's obviously never going to open the reel...just tell him you magged the thing. Screw that side plate back on, dirt and all, done. 8)
This was my original plan but changed my mind.
I've enjoyed reading all the opinions here, but am still seething...I'll feel better tomorrow. :-\
• This chap is actually a friend and quite a nice guy and I think he just has a very very different standard of hygiene and cleanliness to me.
• His sloppiness is known to me and some other close friends, that's why I asked him to only bring me a clean reel, in advance.
• I would not have expected it to be clean inside, just outside where I need to touch it....ugh. Could not get my screwdriver in the slots without scraping the crud of first.
• In the same way as another mate goes overboard in meticulously cleaning and polishing stuff which will get used again tomorrow. I would just rinse and wipe down and after tomorrow do the thorough cleaning job before packing away.
• It's not an old reel and I suspect once cleaned and serviced it will still be fine, other then the make shift handle.
• This reel is just covered in filth outside, fish blood and scales, greasy crud and mud and I don't know what all. Inside is old grease, sand and whatever unidentifiable dirt.
I've decided I'll service the reel completely and clean it as well and give him a report on its condition. It will go back to him with an explanation that I will not do any work on reels in that condition in future.
Quote from: Cor on March 11, 2019, 11:55:38 AM
Friend asked me if I would mag one of his reels...... I agreed, but knowing him told him "only if it is clean"
Have you ever seen a reel so filthy and in such a condition?
This guy fishes nearly as much as I do. My stuff looks used and even worn but neglected and filthy, no ways!
I feel a bit insulted and next time Ill refuse to help him out, or charge him to clean the reel first.
It looks like it is full of fish guts and slime! It seems to have amazingly little corrosion though. Classic handle he made loos like he cut up a kitchen chopping board for it. Is it still in good working order otherwise?
This thread reminds me of a Seinfeld episode in which Jerry's mechanic kidnaps his car because Jerry's been neglecting regular maintenance. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: thorhammer on March 11, 2019, 05:37:07 PM
Fred, I bleeve you are correct. The old-skool maroon plates, amber knob with pink Ande is a favorite, but all of Lady A's builds are sweet (hint: we haven't seen one from you in a while :) ...i would only like it better if i could find a vintage bulk spool of Stren Gold in 50lb test.
My two nastiest reclamations, without major structural part replacement:
First, an Abu Eon 6 series i bought on a St Croix rod for $20. Had I known it had dead baby roaches in it, I would have just kept the rod and dumped the reel. Amazingly the free spool wasnt bad even with the pestilence inside. I quickly threw the whole reel in simple green and washed my hands....if the Green ate it, so be it...but actually it cleaned up really nicely.
2, a SLOSH30 my cousin reeled up off the pier (Tsunami rod was also refurbished). I was amazed the barnacles actually came cleanly off the graphite. I replaced a bearing and added carbontex drag, with a handle I found on Alan's garage floor. Back in bidness.
Those Eon's have enough problems when they in tip top shape, never mind like that!
That looks to be a Trinidad A, yes?
Very expensive reel to be letting it get like that. Guy obviously has no respect for his "tools".
Quote from: boon on March 14, 2019, 08:06:21 PM
That looks to be a Trinidad A, yes?
Very expensive reel to be letting it get like that. Guy obviously has no respect for his "tools".
Correct! I have finished with it, now know it is 6 years old.
It has quite a bit of corrosion, 2 very stuck bearings of which I left one that still feels fine. The right side pinion bearing was toast and took me a lot of effort to remove.
I don't have a proper bearing puller and used Alans strategy and heated the thing!
Blue container has the residue from cleaning the one side plate inside!
Well done Corne.......a sense of achievement, I'm sure.
Cheers Boet.
Terry.
You're a nice guy, I would of sent it back with a note, "What part of cleaned didn't you understand?"
i recently had a penn 535 that was a nightmare. it was a nightmare just parting the casing. the pinion shaft was also rusted solid to the spool spindle.
Another reel i had was a penn 320gti. the inside was a right mess. no wonder it was stiff to turn. both are running fine now
nothing will better this one. trust me.
I could not believe that nothing was seized
I service reels for $$, ($20). Thankfully I don't have any friends that treat their equipment like that, as of now anyway. I do, from time to time, have someone bring a very neglected yard sale find in and ask if I can bring it back to life, and some of them are definitely a challenge, but that's what we do. I do it for relaxation and meditation. I meditate on what in the world am I doing! My true payment is the look on their face when they see the p.o.s. they brought in that now looks fantastic! Makes my day to know another fine instrument has been saved from the junk pile! I'm sure we will all keep complaining while we continue to do what we do.
Quote from: Reeltyme on February 12, 2024, 06:37:22 PMI service reels for $$, ($20). Thankfully I don't have any friends that treat their equipment like that, as of now anyway. I do, from time to time, have someone bring a very neglected yard sale find in and ask if I can bring it back to life, and some of them are definitely a challenge, but that's what we do. I do it for relaxation and meditation. I meditate on what in the world am I doing! My true payment is the look on their face when they see the p.o.s. they brought in that now looks fantastic! Makes my day to know another fine instrument has been saved from the junk pile! I'm sure we will all keep complaining while we continue to do what we do.
Your pricing is too low. If there is little value or an unreasonable low price for your services & expertise —- they will never appreciate what you went through to bring it back to near new.
We have to value ourselves before we can be valued.
I do a lot of e-Bay specials, and yard sale finds for folks.
But, of course, that is your call.
Best Always, Fred