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General Maintenance Tips => Schematics => Topic started by: Swami805 on March 20, 2019, 03:18:33 AM

Title: Heddon reels
Post by: Swami805 on March 20, 2019, 03:18:33 AM
Chester (Festus) asked about a Heddon schematic so I'll post the sheet I have and if you see a specific reel on there you need to look at I'll post a close up. There's a bunch on here but it's not all of them.
Title: Re: Heddon reels
Post by: Swami805 on March 20, 2019, 03:20:29 AM
Here's the 215 Chester
Title: Re: Heddon reels
Post by: thorhammer on March 20, 2019, 01:25:46 PM
is that the green one?
Title: Re: Heddon reels
Post by: festus on March 20, 2019, 01:44:01 PM
Quote from: thorhammer on March 20, 2019, 01:25:46 PM
is that the green one?

Yes, every Heddon spinner I've ever seen have been two-tone green.  Most are cheap online, often shipping cost more than the reel.
Title: Re: Heddon reels
Post by: festus on March 20, 2019, 05:48:07 PM
Swami's schematic was put to good use, I was able to determine I had a some shims in the wrong location and the anti-reverse spring wasn't installed properly.

This little Heddon 215 is more like a toy, weighs 6 oz, no line guide, external bail trip, and very few parts.  It reminds me of my first spinning reel, the old Zebco 707.  But this Heddon is mostly metal except the spool, the Zebco was mostly plastic.  However, it has a fairly good spool diameter, so loaded with 6 lb mono it should cast pretty well.  I'll probably give it to either my granddaughter or great-grandson.  

Thanks again, Sheridan for the schematic.  

Title: Re: Heddon reels
Post by: festus on March 20, 2019, 06:30:12 PM
I had a Heddon spincaster in the early 1970s, seems like I bought it and a Penn No. 79 conventional the same day and got change back from a 10 dollar bill.  The spincaster was also two tone green, seems like the brake adjustment knob might have been red.

No idea how they crammed a bail spring in such a small area.  It's working fine, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Title: Re: Heddon reels
Post by: Midway Tommy on March 20, 2019, 06:32:22 PM
Quote from: festus on March 20, 2019, 01:44:01 PM
Quote from: thorhammer on March 20, 2019, 01:25:46 PM
is that the green one?

Yes, every Heddon spinner I've ever seen have been two-tone green.  Most are cheap online, often shipping cost more than the reel.

Their earliest US made open face spinners were black or burgundy, and one that had white nylon as part of the case. They also sold a bronze & red USA made semi-open face style, photo below, spin-cast (100) and under-spin (200) in the early '60s. In the late '60s there were some, like the 281, 282, etc., that were the darker green, only. Towards the end, in the mid '70s, the 225, 226 & 227 were dark brown with a gold rotor cup, but most of the Japanese Daisy-Heddons were the two tone green combination.  
Title: Re: Heddon reels
Post by: happyhooker on March 21, 2019, 01:56:08 AM
Quote from: festus on March 20, 2019, 06:30:12 PM
I had a Heddon spincaster in the early 1970s, seems like I bought it and a Penn No. 79 conventional the same day and got change back from a 10 dollar bill.  The spincaster was also two tone green, seems like the brake adjustment knob might have been red.

No idea how they crammed a bail spring in such a small area.  It's working fine, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Festus, what's the tan/gold reel in the background of your picture?  Old Compac?


Frank
Title: Re: Heddon reels
Post by: happyhooker on March 21, 2019, 01:58:06 AM
It's hard to find schematics on some of the old Heddons.  That sheet of 'em is nice.

Frank
Title: Re: Heddon reels
Post by: festus on March 21, 2019, 02:22:02 AM
Quote from: happyhooker on March 21, 2019, 01:56:08 AM
Quote from: festus on March 20, 2019, 06:30:12 PM
I had a Heddon spincaster in the early 1970s, seems like I bought it and a Penn No. 79 conventional the same day and got change back from a 10 dollar bill.  The spincaster was also two tone green, seems like the brake adjustment knob might have been red.

No idea how they crammed a bail spring in such a small area.  It's working fine, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Festus, what's the tan/gold reel in the background of your picture?  Old Compac?


Frank
Yes, that's a Compac, pretty much the same thing as a Shakespeare 2200.  They are very smooth reels, plus they have metal spools.  I think Pflueger had their version of the same reel, but I'm not sure of the model number.
Title: Re: Heddon reels
Post by: happyhooker on April 10, 2019, 02:31:22 AM
I've heard the Spin Pal 100s and 200s have a worm gear drive.  Anybody ever crack one open to see? 

Frank
Title: Re: Heddon reels
Post by: festus on May 08, 2019, 03:58:04 PM
That sheet of Heddon schematics that Sheridan posted earlier in the thread is commonly for sale on eBay.  I'm going to post all the spinning reels.

Title: Re: Heddon reels
Post by: festus on May 08, 2019, 03:59:54 PM
215

220
Title: Re: Heddon reels
Post by: festus on May 08, 2019, 04:01:24 PM
230

234
Title: Re: Heddon reels
Post by: festus on May 08, 2019, 04:02:39 PM
236

246
Title: Re: Heddon reels
Post by: festus on May 08, 2019, 04:03:59 PM
251

252
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Post by: festus on May 08, 2019, 04:05:25 PM
260

270
Title: Re: Heddon reels
Post by: festus on May 08, 2019, 04:07:32 PM
280

290

295
Title: Re: Heddon reels
Post by: mo65 on May 08, 2019, 04:44:48 PM
Thanks for posting these schematics guys...they help out a lot. 8)
Title: Re: Heddon reels
Post by: happyhooker on May 09, 2019, 01:50:23 AM
Quote from: mo65 on May 08, 2019, 04:44:48 PM
Thanks for posting these schematics guys...they help out a lot. 8)
Ditto, festus.  Having these schematics is a real service to anyone interested in the Heddons.  Much appreciated.

Frank
Title: Re: Heddon reels
Post by: happyhooker on May 11, 2019, 12:16:52 AM
Adding to the festus Heddon schematics, here's two: for the 222 & 284.

Frank
Title: Re: Heddon reels
Post by: festus on June 13, 2019, 12:00:26 AM
Here's a Shakespeare 248 schematic and parts list.
Title: Re: Heddon reels
Post by: festus on September 17, 2019, 11:45:02 PM
I snagged this schematic from a current Heddon 242 auction on ebay.  All info given it's a huge reel and never seen water, with all papers. Shipping is too high and starting bid is too expensive or I'd go for it. Not much difference in reel engineering I see, no ball bearing but looks to have a more complex drag system.
Title: Re: Heddon reels
Post by: mo65 on September 18, 2019, 02:26:17 PM
Quote from: festus on September 17, 2019, 11:45:02 PM
I snagged this schematic from a current Heddon 242 auction on ebay. 

   Good job finding another Heddon schematic Chester. Those eBay pics are hard to see clearly sometimes. These seem to be a bit too bright, I blocked out some sun, does this help any?

Title: Re: Heddon reels
Post by: Reelmeneer on September 18, 2019, 02:46:29 PM
Hi,

Does someone have a schematic for the heddon mkIV reel?

Regards,

Ed
Title: Re: Heddon reels
Post by: Midway Tommy on September 18, 2019, 06:18:57 PM
Quote from: Reelmeneer on September 18, 2019, 02:46:29 PM
Hi,

Does someone have a schematic for the heddon mkIV reel?

Regards,

Ed

3200 casting or Model 10 fly reel?
Title: Re: Heddon reels
Post by: festus on September 18, 2019, 08:43:10 PM
Quote from: mo65 on September 18, 2019, 02:26:17 PM
Quote from: festus on September 17, 2019, 11:45:02 PM
I snagged this schematic from a current Heddon 242 auction on ebay. 

   Good job finding another Heddon schematic Chester. Those eBay pics are hard to see clearly sometimes. These seem to be a bit too bright, I blocked out some sun, does this help any?


Thanks, Mo, much better.  The only photo editing program I have is a free one--PhotoPad.  What do you use?
Title: Re: Heddon reels
Post by: mo65 on September 19, 2019, 12:42:26 PM
Quote from: festus on September 18, 2019, 08:43:10 PM
Thanks, Mo, much better.  The only photo editing program I have is a free one--PhotoPad.  What do you use?

   I use that Photo Gallery that comes with windows 10.
Title: Re: Heddon reels
Post by: Reelmeneer on January 12, 2020, 11:54:51 AM
Quote from: Midway Tommy on September 18, 2019, 06:18:57 PM
Quote from: Reelmeneer on September 18, 2019, 02:46:29 PM
Hi,

Does someone have a schematic for the heddon mkIV reel?

Regards,

Ed

3200 casting or Model 10 fly reel?

Sorry For the very late reply, had some issues at home. Lokking for the 3200 casting.

Thanks,

Ed
Title: Re: Heddon reels
Post by: DougK on January 17, 2020, 04:13:16 PM
thank you for the schematic Swami.. could we get a closeup of the Heritage parts and schematic please ?
That is the predecessor of the MarkIV 3200 which Ed is looking for, and should be quite similar to the MarkIV..

thanks, Doug
Title: Re: Heddon reels
Post by: ProfT on August 12, 2020, 01:15:45 AM
Wow, this illustration is great. What brand grease and what brand oil do you recommend? And as you can imagine, the reel has a coat of grime and the handle crank is stuck -- what's best to use to clean it? Something like WD-40 or a dish soap like Dawn?