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Title: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: Tightlines667 on April 01, 2019, 09:21:15 PM
As many of you know, I pulled my 1979Dyer29, Hi'ilawe, into dry dock last August.  

She has been in the water since 2011, and was in need of some attention.

I made this post at the behest of John(thorhammer) sonewhat reluctently since this is one of those projects where I have big hopes and asperations, but there is every possobility it might end in cost/time overruns, or dissapointments.  The current condition of this beautiful boat is also a bit embarising, as is the fact that I am not tackling the work myself.  

Having said that, I am optimistic.

The windshield had rotted, and I did a makeshift/shoddy repair job to continue fishing, the prop is the wrong size, bottom paint was worn down to barrier coat in areas, running gear was bare metal, thruhulls were origional, below waterline plumbing had last been replaced at repower in 2009.  The deck was very soft aft of engine, and aft of fighting chair.  Teak deteriorated throughout, general condition of paint/gellcoat poor, battery boxes rotton, both monel fuel tanks from 1979 were leaking (small leaks that were worse when full).  Engine box is in the way and cumbersome, heat insulation is worn, box is heavily worn and not watertight, boat is wet and a half cab would be more comfortable in 4-6' head seas.  Gelcoat is fadded/scratched/damaged, I don't like the teak rails on the deck, and the front hatch and anchore hauses leak water into the cabin (which needs repainting and new cushions).

I like the boat and figure I can make her whole again for less mobey than stepping into a different 29' boat on the local market.  After several meetings and discusdions with different boat guys/shipyards, I decided to give the job(s) to John Francis with  Ocean Marine Services.  He is a good guy, that does quality work, at reasonable costs.  He is basically a one msn show though so it's expected that the work could take many months.  He agreed to pull the boat and assign a spot in his dry dock facility for the long term project w/o charging much of any daily storage fee.  

I would love to.  I have been entrusting the work to a one msn boatyard operation and things have been progressing exceedingly slow.  Its been at the yard since last August and so far all thats been done is...

-Ripped out the deck
-Pulled both fuel tanks (leaking at seams, can not be repaired)
-New plastic tanks (went from 45gal to 55gal) arrived last week
-Bottom was sanded, excessive small pitting and blistering repaired, resanded, barrier coat and primed
-My shoddy fiberglass repair work on the windshield was sanded out/finished/sealed/primed
-Entire builge was sanded/cleaned/dewaxed/primed and painted
-Interior was sanded, dings repaired/filled primed
-1 thruhull was pulled and glassed over (unused astern of engine), 2 more (engine raw water intake&washdown/live bait pump in stern/port corner) are being pulled and replaced with new.
-All stringers have had nails/screws pulled, sanded/repaired/prepped for glass layup

Work to be completed includes:
-install low profile valve on stern thruhull, build mounting bracket, install centrafugal washdown/livewell pump, plumbing and thru deck fitting
-remove old washdown pump
-replace exhaust line astern of wet muffler
-replace raw water intake plumbing
-Rebuild/glass in battery trays, and bulge pump mounts
-Glass in/seal all stringers, cut layout glass in main deck I decided to go with 5/8" marine plywood (same as factory origional) in order to save a few bucks, and ad a little weight.
-Mount/plumb gas tanks with glassed plywood pressure mounts w/rubber gasket
-Mount/wire new fuel gauges to senders
-The deck is going to be reconfigured with a step up at the engine and a heat shield/sound insulation box around the engine with a large/removable engine acess hatch.  Sides of engibe will be dry storage, flush deck will likely be built up with holocore to save weight, and a cutout/step down into cabin/companionway with deck drain will be built.  Plastic access hatches will be installed in the center on each side.  A commercial grade semi-circular aluminum deck hatch will be built into dead center astern.  Under gunnel rod holders will be installed.  I am having John build reinforced plywood section in front of the engine hatch to allow for future mounting of (live bait well, chair, or rocketlauncher or whatever), and similar double plywood sections in 4 locations in fordeck for mounting chairs or other stuff
-I may remove anchor hause(s) on front top deck and glass in to keep the inside drier.
-Remove replace aluminum rubrail with commercial rubber style
-remove teak deck rails.
Prep deck, paint all decks with cream colored Kiwigrip
-Paint interior, cabin and the rest of boat with matching cream colored awlgrip
-Repair exterior above waterline gelcoat and repaint to match color (may have to wait until next haulout)
-Remove Airmar 500watt bronze thru hull and fit and mount new 1kw Airmar B260 Bronze thruhull (front center mounted inside/flush with keel)
-Mount/wire new Furuno FCV-588 sounder
-Have upholstery shop make new vberth and over coffinbox boat cushions to match color (may wait)
-Yanmar 4lha-stp needs to have heat exchanger/coolers removed cleaned/serviced/new zincs/air intake cleaned/new fuel filters/fuel lines/oil change
Front hatch needs resealing too

If this stuff gets done before the end of May and within budget, I will be amazed, but ready to drop her in and fish the Ahi run for 4-6weeks before considering pulling out to address some future desires...

-Re-prop I need to gain 2,500 rpm WOT and hopefully some top end speed
-Finish gelcoat or anything above that was nit completed
-I want to have him build a half cabin out of holocore with opening side windows, a center rigger mount, rod holders, and maybe upgrade to larger outrigger holders, have longer/larger outriggers/center custom made by Lance at 5 oceans 7 seas

I do have a rough buget and am aware I may have to drop sone of my desired improvements given cost cobsiderations.
John does great work, qt a reasonable cost, and I have been trying to give him as much time as he needs and the flexability to modify things as he goes along based on his experience.  Bear in mind this work is not free, and I ibtend to spend more on the work than I actually have ibto the boat now.

I do know the boat is going to look alot better the longer he has it for.

It is already looking alot better than when I pulled her out of the water.

Stay tuned


John


Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: Tightlines667 on April 01, 2019, 09:26:10 PM
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Post by: Tightlines667 on April 01, 2019, 09:27:37 PM
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Post by: Tightlines667 on April 01, 2019, 09:34:24 PM
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Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: Shark Hunter on April 01, 2019, 10:18:13 PM
Holy Cow John!
You have already had quite a few good trips on her.
I hope it works out for you brother.
Boating is not cheap.
My boat is a Kayak Now.
I catch the Monsters from Shore. ;)


Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: 54bullseye on April 02, 2019, 02:34:59 AM
Wow John that is one expensive list you got there. She should be a beauty when done and your gonna have to live out there to pay it back with fish !!! You are going to feel a lot better about heading out though some of those repairs must have ALWAYS been on your mind when going off shore !  Hope all goes well !   John Taylor


Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: thorhammer on April 02, 2019, 02:39:50 AM
WOW! Now that's what I'm talking about. Please keep updated pics on progress! I spy a Daugherty Yachts (Edgewater) 1800 Marlin beside your boat; i have had one since 2004 and it's a great boat, my primary striper boat.


Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: Darin Crofton on April 02, 2019, 07:19:13 AM
This will be fun to watch, good luck to all involved! Darin


Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: Hardy Boy on April 02, 2019, 10:17:46 AM
Ah the fun of owning a boat !! You will be happy when its done .................. the hardest part is deciding what to do and then pulling the trigger !!!!!


Cheers:

Todd


Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: Ron Jones on April 02, 2019, 10:43:47 AM
Will be very nice when done, I'm sure. Can't wait o see the new outriggers, Lance does great work.
Ron Jones


Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: Newell Nut on April 02, 2019, 01:12:16 PM
Good luck and have patience. When complete it will be a sweet fishing machine. Waiting for weather to break here so that I can put some hours on mine.

Dwight


Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: redsetta on April 02, 2019, 04:48:05 PM
Thanks for posting this John.
It's a big task, but you've got a clear vision and a budget, so I reckon you're halfway there already ;)
Good luck - really looking forward to following this one!
Cheers mate, Justin


Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: Tightlines667 on April 03, 2019, 08:17:52 PM
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Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: Tightlines667 on April 03, 2019, 08:24:28 PM
I stopped by tye boat today and discussed a few items, maybe increased the list a bit.

Hes going to also..
-glass over the 2 unused starboard thru hulls
-prep and paint everything (inside and out)
-build a simple fish door
-Reinforce the deck in 5 places
-glass over ancgor hauses, remove teak rails
-and we discussed the front flush deck layout

-He is working on sourcing supplies, sorting tye fuel tank mounts, and plumbing, thru hulls, prop, cutless bearing, and other required materials.  He's also looking at subcontracting out some of the labor.

The dream is in place, hopefully he can start making it a reality.

John


Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: David Hall on April 06, 2019, 08:38:15 PM
If I where doing a project of this scope, which to me seems to be you are bringing her back to as new or better condition structurally and aesthetically.  Itís a great hull and worth the time effort and money to freshen her up. Looks like a month or so with a full crew and a good plan.  A true labor of love.  Heard a Yanmar senior technician say that motor is one of the very best motors Yanmar ever built, maybe the best.
It may be one of the few Yanmars that is rebuildable.  Unlike my 6LPA.
Keep us posted and post lots of pics, this is going to be an epic refurbishment.  One which will give you many many many years of comfortable service. 


Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: Donnyboat on April 06, 2019, 09:28:26 PM
Good luck John, a big project, for you, hope it works good for you, cheers Don.


Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: Jim Fujitani on April 07, 2019, 09:01:10 AM
John, it sounds like your boat will be like new!  Good luck! 


Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: Dominick on April 07, 2019, 09:40:20 AM
Gulp!  John you are a better man than I.  If I saw my boat looking like that I would be so overwhelmed I would dump it.  Good luck with that refurbish.  Dominick


Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: broadway on April 07, 2019, 09:51:52 AM
I envision one heck of a boat when you're finished. Can't wait to see the results.  You have the most important parts... a solid engine and a great hull. 8)
All the best in accomplishing your dream.
Tuned in,
Dom
PS- If you need to let go of that first year 3/0 box due to cost overruns let me know. ;)


Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: Tightlines667 on June 17, 2019, 04:11:03 PM
Well I made it down to take a peak at the progress on my boat yesterday.  It has bern painfully sliw since he is a one man show and having trouble finding good help to subcontract.  However, he has made some progress....

-Thu hulls have been removed, 2 were glassed over, 2 were replaced with new
-Transducer has been removed, he is running into clearance issues mounting the larger 1kw in the keel, and with the longer stem so will have to remove more material, drill another hull, plug old one, and build custom fairing skirts
-Decks are sanded/prepped for paint
-Teak rails have been removed, and front railing removed
-Rub rail ready for install
-All stringers have been glassed/sealed, glassed to hull
-he built/installed firewall arpund engine box with step up for for flush deck config
-Aft deck plywood cut/fit underside glassed/sealed
-Fuel tanks mounted with custom glassed/plywood mounts
-Fuel tanks plummed (vent, pick up, return, fill, and senders installed wired to front gauges (still need to be installed)

He still has to
-sand/prep/prime/paint helcoat, trim, and entire interior/exterior.
-finish cuttin fordeck reinforce for chair mounts, install hatches
-fabricate a fish door
-move buildge pump
-install washdown/baitwell pump
-plum engine intake
Paint bottom
Minor engine service

John


Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: Tightlines667 on June 17, 2019, 04:12:12 PM
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Post by: Tightlines667 on June 17, 2019, 04:13:24 PM
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Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: George6308 on June 17, 2019, 05:02:34 PM
Beautiful lines, very classic look, and worth every cent you put into her. She will sail again. Wishing you fare winds and calm seas.


Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: Tightlines667 on November 17, 2019, 11:42:08 AM
I stopped by the boat yesterday, and some progress has been made.  The forward flush deck has been glassed in, with reinforcing helm/compsnion chait blocks glassed in place, storage hatches molded, nd the main engine hatch is ready to be pulled from the mold and finished/mounted.  Pluming/wiring tubes were molded in as well.  The new thru hulls are mounted, old 2 unused have been removed/glassed over.  I also selected/ordered new paint.  Outter hull and windscreen will be Pearl Gray awlgrip, trim, decks, and interior will be cream.

We still have alot of work to do, but progress is occuring.

John


Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: Tightlines667 on November 17, 2019, 11:44:05 AM
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Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: thorhammer on November 17, 2019, 02:44:09 PM
Cool! I know it's killing you being on dry dock this long. It's gonna be sweet though. Grip is the best out there as far as I'm concerned.


Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: Cuttyhunker on November 18, 2019, 12:22:22 PM
This is a mid 80's shot at Cuttyhunk, headed out to Devil's Bridge at the Vineyard for a good striper day on the 29 Dyer "Jig em UP" the late Capt. Roland Columbe at the helm, note the hi tech circle flasher on the helm.  Yours truly in the shades along for the ride.  The retired shop manager for Dyer, Gil Rene, used to buy lobster traps from my shop and was proud of his boats.  The management was more interested in quality boats than bean counting.  One of the salty old timers on the island, a WW1 vet who could never reconcile the idea of glass boats commented after a particularly sloppy bay crossing with Roland, that he still didn't think much of glass boats but that "one" would probably scare you to death before it drowned you.  Quite a compliment.  Good job on a great hull.


Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: Tightlines667 on November 18, 2019, 02:16:40 PM
This is a mid 80's shot at Cuttyhunk, headed out to Devil's Bridge at the Vineyard for a good striper day on the 29 Dyer "Jig em UP" the late Capt. Roland Columbe at the helm, note the hi tech circle flasher on the helm.  Yours truly in the shades along for the ride.  The retired shop manager for Dyer, Gil Rene, used to buy lobster traps from my shop and was proud of his boats.  The management was more interested in quality boats than bean counting.  One of the salty old timers on the island, a WW1 vet who could never reconcile the idea of glass boats commented after a particularly sloppy bay crossing with Roland, that he still didn't think much of glass boats but that "one" would probably scare you to death before it drowned you.  Quite a compliment.  Good job on a great hull.

Love it!


Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: David Hall on November 18, 2019, 03:06:47 PM
Progress looks great.  patience is king for this kind of project.  fortunately you got friends with boats so you don't have to be a full time land lubber.


Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: Bill B (Tarfu) on January 21, 2020, 07:05:03 PM
John, how's the boat coming along?  Bill


Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: Tightlines667 on January 21, 2020, 07:52:34 PM
John, how's the boat coming along?  Bill

Still very little progress. 
John has had trouble finding skilled labor to help him with the project.
I am looking into tackling the fish storage, helm chairs, new cushions, amd biminy with enclosure myself at this point.  Had a 1200lb fish box I wanted for the back deck fall through my hands, and I don't want to pay for new or custom now.  I like the force 1200lb box made by Force in Hilo, but may settle for a 600lb Aussie box.  Not sure what to do aboutb30gal livewell yet?  Maybe a kodiak with a custom bracket to mount it off of the stern?

John


Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: oc1 on January 21, 2020, 11:29:46 PM
John, there are also some freelance guys in Hilo making fish boxes and bait tanks.  Let me know if I should get their contact info.
-steve


Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: Shark Hunter on January 21, 2020, 11:40:21 PM
John,
I Have seen how you fish, You have it down brother.
Best of luck with the resto. I sold my Boat.
I hated to do it, but it was the best decision for me.
She had a good run.
I can't wait to see the Dyer on the Water Again. ;)


Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: Tightlines667 on February 27, 2020, 10:22:33 PM
Work was on hold for months due to my guy suffering from health issues.  He got released from the hospital last week and hired a guy who has made some progress over the last few days.

Engine sound/heat proofing is in, raw water strainer restored, thruu hulls done, hatch fabrication and removable cross suport complete, install in progress.  Thru hull transducer fitted/installed, a custom fiberglass fairing will be built.  Custom battery boxes were just built, will be finished/glassed in soon.  Then rear washdown mount, install, pluming, and thru deck fittings install.  Then rear hatch cut, then rear deck and hatch install.  New rub rail, refinish pulpit.  Fab/cut build fish door, sand and refinish/paint everything.  I am still really wanting a cabin built, but we will have to see how the progress is in the next few months.

John


Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: Tightlines667 on February 27, 2020, 10:23:53 PM
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Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: Rivverrat on February 28, 2020, 09:00:32 PM
... Daugherty Yachts (Edgewater) 1800 Marlin beside your boat; i have had one since 2004 and it's a great boat, my primary striper boat.

    Those are zippy, nice riding boats for their size... Jeff


Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: Gfish on February 29, 2020, 06:53:20 AM
I's wondering about the progress on your boat after reading the Marlin fishing post. Updates are good, I'm learning from your experiences. Sounds like it'll mostly be your customized creation when it's done.
Personally though, I don't think I'd have the patience to deal with it. A guy having the $ to get it done timely and right, might not have all the "right" resources, such as the local connections.


Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: Tightlines667 on March 03, 2020, 07:05:21 PM
Hatch combings, battery boxes completed.


Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: Bill B (Tarfu) on March 03, 2020, 07:19:32 PM
Getting closer brother....can't wait for your shake down cruise.  If it's anything like your last one it will be epic....Bill


Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: milne on March 03, 2020, 08:43:53 PM
I'm lovin the progress photo's,  keep them coming !!.
 Gives me great motivation....


Col


Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: Tightlines667 on March 29, 2020, 06:08:16 PM
Just stopped by the boat.  They finished the big front hatch, and the small one of fresh out of the mold.


Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: David Hall on May 19, 2020, 09:06:44 PM
Progress no matter how small is always a good thing.  Keep driving the project itís coming along nicely.
Looks great everything youíve posted.


Title: Re: 1979 Dyer 29 Refresh
Post by: Hardy Boy on May 20, 2020, 07:50:20 AM
Looking good ............................. when should I be thinking about a holiday in Hawaii ....................... with a little fishing? ;)


Cheers:


Todd