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Title: cutting vise grips to make cross pin pliers
Post by: alantani on April 09, 2019, 02:14:47 PM
https://youtu.be/70IMNHeAZ9o


Title: Re: cutting vise grips to make cross pin pliers
Post by: Hardy Boy on April 09, 2019, 02:34:52 PM
Thanks for that Alan. I wish I saw that the other week when I emailed you. I made a pair by mistake that work well. I tried to drill a hole at the end of a pair of vice grips, it did not work and the tip of the one side broke off 1/4 inch short, I filed a groove/ notch in the shortened tip (to fit the pin) and they work awesome.


cheers:


Todd


Title: Re: cutting vise grips to make cross pin pliers
Post by: Alto Mare on April 09, 2019, 02:42:07 PM
Very nice boss, I like the way you take your time with it...a pro at work.

Sal


Title: Re: cutting vise grips to make cross pin pliers
Post by: David Hall on April 09, 2019, 08:43:49 PM
Video is not complete?  I want to watch a pin being removed, how do I know it works?


Title: Re: cutting vise grips to make cross pin pliers
Post by: foakes on April 09, 2019, 09:34:31 PM
Thanks, Alan!

Great idea!

Best,

Fred


Title: Re: cutting vise grips to make cross pin pliers
Post by: Tiddlerbasher on April 10, 2019, 02:06:07 AM
Thanks Alan - not bad for an old man :D ;D ;D


Title: Re: cutting vise grips to make cross pin pliers
Post by: Cor on April 13, 2019, 06:02:50 AM
I just made myself a similar tool, used a small angle grinder to cut the slot and that worked very well.
The vice grip has the leverage my previous tool lacked and works perfectly!
Thanks for the tip!


Title: Re: cutting vise grips to make cross pin pliers
Post by: alantani on April 13, 2019, 09:44:23 AM
That is exactly the reason that vise grips make the perfect starting tool. You have the ability to precisely adjust the amount of pressure delivered to the head of the pin. You do have to grind the face of the jaws as flat as possible.  That way you decrease the risk of mushrooming the pin.


Title: Re: cutting vise grips to make cross pin pliers
Post by: Cor on April 13, 2019, 10:46:35 AM
That is exactly the reason that vise grips make the perfect starting tool. You have the ability to precisely adjust the amount of pressure delivered to the head of the pin. You do have to grind the face of the jaws as flat as possible.  That way you decrease the risk of mushrooming the pin.
Yes, and what I also enjoyed especially was adjusting the screw on the vice grip to precisely the correct depth setting to avoid seating the pin too deep and having to turn it around and do the other side again. 8)


Title: Re: cutting vise grips to make cross pin pliers
Post by: Gfish on April 13, 2019, 11:36:23 AM
That looks stronger than what I did. I ground a pair of needle-nose vice grips, from the tip of onea the jaws down, insteda from the side. Also, I added a "dimple" to the other jaw to better hold the pin as it's squeezed.


Title: Re: cutting vise grips to make cross pin pliers
Post by: steelfish on April 13, 2019, 11:54:20 AM
nice video Jefe

I did something alike few years back when I saw yours on a tutorial, but I cut mine different, the idea is the same I just found this worked better for me

https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=15012.msg155077#msg155077


Title: Re: cutting vise grips to make cross pin pliers
Post by: kmstorm64 on May 01, 2019, 10:08:07 AM
Video is not complete?  I want to watch a pin being removed, how do I know it works?

Same here, not seeing how this would benefit, without seeing it in action.


Title: Re: cutting vise grips to make cross pin pliers
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on May 16, 2019, 09:31:50 PM
What is the cross pin? Is it is a pressed in pin on a shaft of some sort on a conventional reel? I'm a spinning reel guy so please excuse my ignorance!  ;D


Title: Re: cutting vise grips to make cross pin pliers
Post by: Gfish on May 16, 2019, 09:46:43 PM
On older spinners, there's sometimes a cross-pin that holds either the spool or the click gear, on the spool shaft.


Title: Re: cutting vise grips to make cross pin pliers
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on May 16, 2019, 11:07:54 PM
On older spinners, there's sometimes a cross-pin that holds either the spool or the click gear, on the spool shaft.
Right, usually on push button release spools. There is rarely a reason to remove those (I've never needed to). They are pretty easy to get at too. I'm thinking if there is a need to make a special tool to remove/install these pins, there must be a part that is serviced regularly that has a pin the needs to be removed on something other than a spinning reel.


Title: Re: cutting vise grips to make cross pin pliers
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on May 16, 2019, 11:09:53 PM
nice video Jefe

I did something alike few years back when I saw yours on a tutorial, but I cut mine different, the idea is the same I just found this worked better for me

https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=15012.msg155077#msg155077
Guess I should have clicked the link earlier  ;D
Now I see what the tool is for...very nice!


Title: Re: cutting vise grips to make cross pin pliers
Post by: Cor on May 17, 2019, 12:12:17 AM
On older spinners, there's sometimes a cross-pin that holds either the spool or the click gear, on the spool shaft.
Right, usually on push button release spools. There is rarely a reason to remove those (I've never needed to). They are pretty easy to get at too. I'm thinking if there is a need to make a special tool to remove/install these pins, there must be a part that is serviced regularly that has a pin the needs to be removed on something other than a spinning reel.


Title: Re: cutting vise grips to make cross pin pliers
Post by: kmstorm64 on May 17, 2019, 05:47:36 AM
On older spinners, there's sometimes a cross-pin that holds either the spool or the click gear, on the spool shaft.

Got it, beyond lubing and cleaning, I have never had an issue with a spinning reel. I don't have too many Spinners for the salt. Most of them are new or nearly new, and I keep up on them.


Title: Re: cutting vise grips to make cross pin pliers
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on May 17, 2019, 06:15:27 AM
On older spinners, there's sometimes a cross-pin that holds either the spool or the click gear, on the spool shaft.

Got it, beyond lubing and cleaning, I have never had an issue with a spinning reel. I don't have too many Spinners for the salt. Most of them are new or nearly new, and I keep up on them.
The vice grips aren't for spinning reels. See the picture a few posts up for what it is for on conventional reels.