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Fishing Rods => Fishing Rods => Topic started by: joel8080 on April 24, 2019, 01:39:42 PM



Title: Cork Tape
Post by: joel8080 on April 24, 2019, 01:39:42 PM
I just bought a beautiful old Saber Deck Hand rod, in great shape except the cork wrap needs to be replaced, Question Is it difficult to remove the old cork, and how hard is it to replace the cork wrap?, or is there something better and easier then cork wrap?.

joel8080


Title: Re: Cork Tape
Post by: Swami805 on April 24, 2019, 01:48:48 PM
Should peel off pretty easy. Sometimes it will leave a clear layer of tape behind that you need to get off. A heat gun is helpful to get it to peel off. You donít need to clean the glue left behind off, you can put new tape over it
To put on the new tape just peel off the backing and wrap it on. At piece of masking tape around the end to hold it done while wrapping then finish the end with a small piece of shrink tube. If youíre handy with tuna cord you can add a Turks head instead of shrink tube. The butt cap will hold the bottom end in place


Title: Re: Cork Tape
Post by: thorhammer on April 24, 2019, 04:43:00 PM
Joel, i just got back in town and am sending check for rod tomorrow.  I'm looking at a roll of cork tape I'm happy to put in a box for you if you wish. Lemme know.


John


Title: Re: Cork Tape
Post by: joel8080 on April 24, 2019, 05:40:16 PM
Thanks John but 3 hours ago I ordered a roll of cork tape.

Tight Lines

joel 8080


Title: Re: Cork Tape
Post by: thorhammer on April 24, 2019, 05:57:21 PM
LOL, ok. go slow with the wrap and it helps to warm it with hair dryer or heat gun so it will mold the blank radius and not leave gaps.


Title: Re: Cork Tape
Post by: joel8080 on April 25, 2019, 09:24:40 AM
Over the weekend I am going to remove the old cork, is it best to do it with a Heat Gun or scrape it off ?, the Rod in in great shape like new but the cork is bad dried out., I have new cork and a new butt cap in route.

joel 8080


Title: Re: Cork Tape
Post by: thorhammer on April 25, 2019, 10:12:48 AM
it will likely take both...i'd heat it up to loosen the glue and you are prolly going to then scrape it off in chunks with a knife. VERY unlikely it will unwind, and certainly not if it's the older type tape without the backing on it. I usually sand it smooth after, because cork tape will lift and make gaps that tear if applied on bumpy or dirty surface. I wipe with alcohol to get good and clean before application. lesson learned the hard way from not taking the time.


if you wish i will send you a couple pieces of X flock heat shrink for the ends at the seat and foregrip.


Title: Re: Cork Tape
Post by: joel8080 on April 25, 2019, 11:49:14 AM
Hi

That would be great I was wondering what to use for the ends, Problem solved.

joel 80809


Title: Re: Cork Tape
Post by: MarkT on April 25, 2019, 01:35:30 PM
Cup the tape a little when you put it on then roll it over a 2x4 to get to lay down smooth with no gaps.


Title: Re: Cork Tape
Post by: Newell Nut on April 25, 2019, 02:54:19 PM
This is my preferred way of cleanly finishing cork tape. Wrap with D black thread and two coats of thread finish. Customers love it.

Dwight
(https://oi1282.photobucket.com/albums/a526/dwebb49/KurtGR%206_zpscwpjcuwo.jpg) (https://s1282.photobucket.com/user/dwebb49/media/KurtGR%206_zpscwpjcuwo.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Cork Tape
Post by: joel8080 on May 01, 2019, 08:24:40 AM
I removed the cork from the rod it was much easier then I thought it would be, but I found that it had 2 layers of cork on the rod.
Question should I put 1 or 2 layers on the rod?. I am going to mount a TRQ 12 Reel or a Penn 500 on it I'm not sure yet.

joel 8080


Title: Re: Cork Tape
Post by: Swami805 on May 01, 2019, 08:36:41 AM
Depends on how you like it, sometimes 1 layer doesnít feel right in your hand. Also check  to see that the reel clamp is big enough to fit around the handle.
Be sure to wrap the 2nd layer the opposite direction than the first. Not a bad idea to put a section of shrink tube weíre the reel will be so the cork tape will last longer


Title: Re: Cork Tape
Post by: joel8080 on May 01, 2019, 08:49:46 AM
Thanks for the reply, I am going to mount the reel with a Reel Puppy, I tried both reels and they both fit with the 2 layers and with the reel puppy just needed a little longer screws for the TRQ.
I like the idea of putting shrink wrap where the reel sits it was one of the 2 problems I found one being the cork was old & dried out the other was the top layer was worn out where the reel sat.

Thank you

joel 8080


Title: Re: Cork Tape
Post by: Ron Jones on May 01, 2019, 09:55:56 AM
This is my preferred way of cleanly finishing cork tape. Wrap with D black thread and two coats of thread finish. Customers love it.

Dwight
(https://oi1282.photobucket.com/albums/a526/dwebb49/KurtGR%206_zpscwpjcuwo.jpg) (https://s1282.photobucket.com/user/dwebb49/media/KurtGR%206_zpscwpjcuwo.jpg.html)


Now...I like that a lot!
Ron Jones


Title: Re: Cork Tape
Post by: thorhammer on May 01, 2019, 10:18:15 AM
Joel, your shrink is on the way- it's about 7.5". That should be enough to run under the seat, and leave a couple inches to shrink the tip-end terminus of cork wrap. I put a wrap or two of black tape on the cork end to hold in place while I'm shrinking as the taper will want to flare  / lift off the rod. you can use a crutch or chair leg tip on the bottom (over a couple wraps of tape) that will give you a good knob for casting.


John


Title: Re: Cork Tape
Post by: joel8080 on May 04, 2019, 01:44:52 PM
John

I received your package, thank you so much, it will look great on the Rod.

Joel



Title: Re: Cork Tape
Post by: thorhammer on May 05, 2019, 05:28:39 AM
cool, show us pics when done!


Title: Re: Cork Tape
Post by: SoCalAngler on May 05, 2019, 09:13:34 AM
Thanks for the reply, I am going to mount the reel with a Reel Puppy, I tried both reels and they both fit with the 2 layers and with the reel puppy just needed a little longer screws for the TRQ.
I like the idea of putting shrink wrap where the reel sits it was one of the 2 problems I found one being the cork was old & dried out the other was the top layer was worn out where the reel sat.

Thank you

joel 8080



Title: Re: Cork Tape
Post by: joel8080 on May 15, 2019, 06:20:36 AM
When I bought my deck hand rod, I was told it was a Sabre, when it arrived I looked every where for the Sabre label, when I removed the old cork grip I found the label it was there old original label, I tried to remove it and I destroyed it big time.
Question does any one know where I can get a Sabre label? the rod came out just great But I would like to put the Sabre label back on it and then it's finished.

joel 8080


Title: Re: Cork Tape
Post by: thorhammer on May 15, 2019, 06:57:02 AM
If anyone has one, it would be Swami (Sheridan) I think.


Looking forward to your pics- SoCal's look good and I acquired a cork puppy from Nick (RFP), so why not whip one up for myself :)


Title: Re: Cork Tape
Post by: SoCalAngler on May 15, 2019, 08:21:45 AM
Joel,

I don't have a label but did yours look like this?





Title: Re: Cork Tape
Post by: Swami805 on May 15, 2019, 08:44:57 AM
I donít have any, the last one I did I was able to save it from under the cork tape.

Thatís a nice old sabre there, I think they call that a cinnamon blank. Thatís a waterslide decal , I donít think you can salvage one of those. Thatís an older logo on there too, they changed it a few times over the years.
Maybe as Sabreís become more collectible someone will make some


Title: Re: Cork Tape
Post by: SoCalAngler on May 15, 2019, 09:32:13 AM
I donít have any, the last one I did I was able to save it from under the cork tape.

Thatís a nice old sabre there, I think they call that a cinnamon blank. Thatís a waterslide decal , I donít think you can salvage one of those. Thatís an older logo on there too, they changed it a few times over the years.
Maybe as Sabreís become more collectible someone will make some

I don't want to change Joel's thread but a little info on my Sabre.

I had a rod that I busted the ring out of the stripper guide. With Calstar's lifetime warranty they said bring it in and they would fix it free of charge. When I went to the factory I brought along the Sabre hoping to get some info on it.. After doing the paperwork to get the guide replaced I asked if someone could give me info on a older Sabre I have. The lady up front said she would get Pat. I ask this older woman Pat if she is Leon's wife and she said yes.

Long story short Pat looks at the rod and asks if I have a minute and I said yes. She then asks me to follower her and we go through the factory to a back building and inside is Leon. Leon looks at the rod and was shocked on how good of shape it was in. I was told the 5000's series were what they called Super Sabre's and was built most likely on the late 70's.

I was also told the rod is bone stock, I thought it was rewrapped because it looked so nice, and it still looks brand new to this day.


Title: Re: Cork Tape
Post by: Ron Jones on May 15, 2019, 09:37:54 AM
I bought two that had never been fished a few years back. One is put up and the other one goes with me everywhere.
Ron Jones


Title: Re: Cork Tape
Post by: droppedit on May 15, 2019, 10:56:47 AM
If you can find the image you want on the rod and get me a cartridge of white for my Alps printer I'll run off a few for you. PM me if your interested.

Dave


Title: Re: Cork Tape
Post by: joel8080 on May 15, 2019, 11:49:17 AM
The Sabre label was Red and Sabre in White, and the script looked the same but no slide, there was nothing to save the label just fell apart.

The Rod was a custom, it's in great shape and it was built by The Bent Rod for Jerry Foose the only other Marking is BS500
Which I can not figure out what it means. it's 7'3" and I guess 20/30 maybe 35 lb rod.

joel 8080