What will they be? How many times do we find ourselves thinking, "if only I'd known, I'd have bought a case of those reels!"
While not that old, I now wish I had bought an Abu Garcia Suveran when they were in the stores . The truth is, I hated what I saw as big goofy-looking rubber wheels on those reels and never got past that. Oh well, who knew. ::)
So I wonder which of today's reels will turn out to be the rare or highly valued finds that everyone wants tomorrow?
Truth reels probably will be.
Maybe ProGear too? Anything with a Tiburon frame? The stuff made by small American companies that are not swallowed up by conglomerates.
God I hated the green Curado 50 and Ambassadeur 1500 when they came out. Wish I had a case of each now.
-steve
Wish I had bought some shimano trinidad DC's, even a beater goes for x2 what they cost.
Quote from: 1badf350 on June 23, 2019, 05:13:33 AMTruth reels probably will be.
Well Chris, if you're half as good at predicting collectibles as you are at acquiring them, I'd better start looking for one!
Yeah Steve, those smaller size Abu's are gold now.
Actually I would say Truth and Release reels would be collectible because the poor guy got sued twice at startup over the names. This makes them limited in the number is produced.
Here is the story
https://www.localscoopmagazine.com/discover/the-reel-deal-seigler-reels/
Thanks for the link , very interesting !
Seems like one area to look at for future "collectible reels" might be —
Quality brands with solid construction — in the smallest sizes manufactured.
For example, see what the tiny Penn spinners, Mitchell, DQ, Abu/Zebco Cardinal 3, Daiwa etc..are selling for.
For baitcasters or conventionals — any quality brands that are slated for discontinuation — particularly smaller versions of larger big brothers, or narrow versions.
For example, see what old and small Swedish narrow ABU's are selling for. Or Shimano TLD5's.
I would mostly (but not always) skip graphite, plastic, or any reels with decals or tape adhesive labels.
Just got to keep eyes and ears open — and your web of reliable sources.
For me, there are (2) things to always remember — I can't pay too much for a quality reel — or too little for a poor quality reel.
For those of you who might recall the old original Ford Broncos —
If, when they were going to be discontinued in 1977, after an 11 year run — someone would have bought (100) at $7000 each, stored them properly on blocks in a warehouse — their initial $700,000 investment would be worth in the neighborhood of $10M, today. If marketed carefully & properly — maybe double that...
But, I am seldom as smart looking ahead — as I am at Monday morning quarterbacking...
IMO.
Best,
Fred
Sounds good Fred except storage fees for 100 Ford Broncos for 40+ years would leave you in the poor house
.....now if you invested 700 grand in Microsoft in 1977, you'd be a multi billionaire !!
Correct, but you could build a good house for 10 million. cheers Don.
According to one of the online calculators, if you invested $700K USD in the S&P 500 stock index in Jan 1977, with dividend reinvestment, you would have about $59.6 million now.
-J
Back in the late 80's and early 90's people here would buy a brand new Corvette,,,,Camaro or mustang and garage it,,,,, :D 20 years later they would decide to sell it for a $15,000 lost,,,,, :-[ so I just wonder how many chariton and bogdan reels are in stock drawers,,,,,,, ;D
One reason people collect / or pursue hobbies is because they have a personal connection of some kind, for one reason or another, which can vary widely from person to person.
Often times rooted in something significant from childhood that shaped who we became as an adult.
It's a feeling or an emotion that taps into a fond memory from the past.
Scarcity and how easily something can be substituted for also are factors.
Wouldn't it be smart to fill the parts bins with the aforementioned reel parts ?
Charles
Checked used Shimano Baitrunners from the 80's the other day on da' Bay. They're selling from as low as $50 to around $150. 1-NIB was goin for $230, the mode seemed to be around $90. Darn!, I sold my 6500 B for $5 as a parts reel.
Forecasting what will be a future collectible is a crap shoot based on personal opinion. If you would have bought a 1982 Corvette and garaged it, until today, you would not have made that killer investment. But, if you would have bought a 1953 Corvette and saved it, the story would have a very different ending.
So, I have a prediction for my favorite fishing reel brand. A reel that I believe is a collectible of the future. It is a 1985 reel with a very limited interest now, but, I believe that will change as time goes by................ And here's it is:::::::::::::::::::::::
Very good choice,,,, ;) but now that you said that they just trebled in price,,,hehe,,,,, ;D
To Charles point about stocking up on parts...And I say this with the deepest admiration and respect...I would be shocked if Fred doesn't already have a warehouse of parts for reels that don't exist yet! BUT...to actually see the reels that Fred brings back into service - everyone that owns vintage stuff owe him and ALL of the other "parts sources" on this forum a serious debt of gratitude that they not only pick up and catalogue stuff that they may or may not be able to sell, but nobody is being ridiculous$$$ about "unobtanium" parts - love the Ohana on this site!!!!
There are a lot of good parts suppliers on here —
I keep all of the parts for various quality manufacturers fairly organized and hopefully intact in case of an earthquake — although they are rare up here in the Sierras.
Here is just a few locations of parts for old Penn Spinners. Greenie Spinfishers, blacks, SS's, and others.
There are maybe 40 times this amount of parts for Penn conventionals, Garcia, Mitchell, DAM Quick, and a bunch of others.
Everything is fairly organized and accessible for the major...good, old quality brands.
Seems stupid to stock, save, and store parts that I may have had for 20 years — and only sell or give away maybe one or two a week...but that is OK, I enjoy helping folks when possible with tough parts. And, At least I know where to find a part for the reels I work on for folks.
Best,
Fred
Quote from: Penn Chronology on July 08, 2019, 02:39:15 AM
Forecasting what will be a future collectible is a crap shoot based on personal opinion.
Quite correct Mike so I'll wade in here with my crap shoot ;)
I believe that "Made in U.S.A" Penn reels that have not appeared in any of their catalogs or listings will always have a place in the collectibles of tomorrow and the future.
I don't believe Penn will ever go back to re-write catalogs from the 1940's & 1950's to include them .....
How many different models do you know of that fit into this category ?
I know of 2 models ...
One was identified on the reel box only, the 500A Jigmaster
The other was identified firstly on the reel only and not the box, later on the box only and not the reel, the 49A Super Mariner.
Both exclusively for the South African (A for Africa) market.
Regards
AC49
Wow Gfish, you must be a scientist! Haven't heard "mode" used since my statistic class.
I never realised the 500A was also only available in South Africa, I had a few of them, now they are collectors items, wow thanks for the info AC49. Lately in pawn shops I am only seeing the narrow 49s not the 49a
Or bought a bunch of vintage Colt Pythons before they were discontinued and that Walking Zombie show drove prices into the idiosphere. ::)
~A~
I'm thinking of much newer models. 40 years from now, people will be trying to assemble NOS sets of the first Torques and Raptors.
The Man
Quote from: Aiala on July 08, 2019, 03:58:20 PM
Or bought a bunch of vintage Colt Pythons before they were discontinued and that Walking Zombie show drove prices into the idiosphere. ::)
~A~
Ain't that the truth! Rick Grimes packs a Python and the prices go off the charts...I should have bought a few when he drew that piece in the pilot episode!! :D
It's just like when Clint Eastwood started packing an 8 inch model 29. All of a sudden they were on backorder & demanding super premium prices. Who's Rick Grimes? Are there really any zombies? ;D ;D
Nothing over night,,,,, :D but maybe reels from penn custom shop?,,,,,,,, ;D
Quote from: Ron Jones on July 08, 2019, 04:25:33 PMI'm thinking of much newer models. 40 years from now, people will be trying to assemble NOS sets of the first Torques and Raptors.
I was thinking first gen Torques too. Holdin' on to my 100, too nice to sell anyway!
Probably right about the Torque & Raptor.
Here's an Accurate "Twin Drag, Boss Xtreme, DPX2 Dawg", 600 size. The most unique thing about it to me is the triple dog system paired with an ARB.
A candidate ?
I try not to use it much and I'mina will it to my son.
They didn't seem to last too long as a model, so maybe there was an issue I'm not aware of...
My youngest son said he gets all my fishing stuff when I die. I told him no, I'm going to have a really big coffin because yes, I really can take it with me when I go!
Quote from: MarkT on July 08, 2019, 08:12:11 PMMy youngest son said he gets all my fishing stuff when I die. I told him no, I'm going to have a really big coffin because yes, I really can take it with me when I go!
OMG, that is too funny! ;D You're gonna turn your kid into a grave robber man!
If I was going to look for a reel now it would be black penn torques. Don't see many but with my luck they'd start making them again. The narrow 25 and 40
Rods would be colored seekers. The blue extreme series are getting good money already. Green pinhead rods and blanks would be something to buy and sit on now or any of the colored glass ones if you can find them
Ay come on Sheridan, what did you say that for ?, Steve & Mike wont sleep now, till they make a glass reel, go easy on them man, cheers Don.
QuoteI believe that "Made in U.S.A" Penn reels that have not appeared in any of their catalogs or listings will always have a place in the collectibles of tomorrow and the future.
I don't believe Penn will ever go back to re-write catalogs from the 1940's & 1950's to include them .....
How many different models do you know of that fit into this category ?
I like this. Uncatalogued model names or numbers are almost always limited and become collectible. Models like the Delmar 286, the King Salmon Model 49 in the box or the Spinfisher Model 707 Z never made the catalog but definitely exist. There are probably others. Reels that are regular production but do not show up as that, always have an special interest.