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Title: Have the Torque star drags been discontinued
Post by: natch! on July 06, 2019, 06:34:13 PM
While reading a thread on surface iron reels in Bloody Decks I saw a comment that the TRQ star drags have been discontinued.

Jack
Title: Re: Have he Torque star drags been discontinued
Post by: Rivverrat on July 06, 2019, 11:15:18 PM
They are on sale right now. Find it very hard to believe they are no more... Jeff
Title: Re: Have the Torque star drags been discontinued
Post by: Penn on July 10, 2019, 11:05:35 AM
Torque SD have been discontinued.

tony
Title: Re: Have the Torque star drags been discontinued
Post by: Rivverrat on July 10, 2019, 01:15:28 PM
Oh No !!

Will there be a replacement coming ?

Were they not selling as well as expected ?

Title: Re: Have the Torque star drags been discontinued
Post by: Keta on July 10, 2019, 01:15:58 PM
Bummer, I was impressed with the one I worked on last month.
Title: Re: Have the Torque star drags been discontinued
Post by: MarkT on July 10, 2019, 01:49:28 PM
This is ICAST week! They're coming out with a new Torque TRQ15XNLD2 which is a narrow 25, not a narrow 15.  The Torques will all be available in silver as well as gold.  Penn is also coming out with a new Fathom II lineup.

The coolest stuff looks to be the new Shimano Speedmaster II's which look like lower priced Talica's. Now they'll have the Torium/Trinidad and Speedmaster/Talica lines.  Now they just need to update the old Tiagras so they'll have something to take on the Penn Internationals and Okuma Makaira's.
Title: Re: Have the Torque star drags been discontinued
Post by: sabaman1 on July 10, 2019, 03:35:07 PM
Mark, I thought the Shimano Talica was right up there with the Penn VISX and Okuma Makaira as the top, go to big fish reels?
Title: Re: Have the Torque star drags been discontinued
Post by: MarkT on July 10, 2019, 03:51:46 PM
The Talicas are built on the light side.  They don't have a heavy/strong frame like an International/Makaira/Tiagra.
Title: Re: Have the Torque star drags been discontinued
Post by: Tunanorth on July 11, 2019, 08:43:53 AM
Quote from: MarkT on July 10, 2019, 01:49:28 PM
This is ICAST week! They're coming out with a new Torque TRQ15XNLD2 which is a narrow 25, not a narrow 15.  The Torques will all be available in silver as well as gold.  Penn is also coming out with a new Fathom II lineup.

The coolest stuff looks to be the new Shimano Speedmaster II's which look like lower priced Talica's. Now they'll have the Torium/Trinidad and Speedmaster/Talica lines.  Now they just need to update the old Tiagras so they'll have something to take on the Penn Internationals and Okuma Makaira's.


To clarify, the new size is referred to as a "15", because in the numbering system for PENN's new models, it indicates that it holds 300 yards of "that" pound test monofilament. This model has the same total capacity as the other models designated "15", but the "XN" tells you it is the taller/narrower configuration. It is a very cool size, and although targeting the "Slow Pitch Jigging" market, numerous San Digo-based anglers have already said they will use it for yo-yo'ing CA-style iron, and 30-40 pound live bait duties for tuna.
Title: Re: Have the Torque star drags been discontinued
Post by: MarkT on July 11, 2019, 03:36:26 PM
The new Torque 15 is larger than the current Torque/Fathom/Squall 15's, right?
Title: Re: Have the Torque star drags been discontinued
Post by: Rivverrat on July 11, 2019, 08:01:37 PM
It's a thinned down 25N same capacity as the Torque 15... Jeff
Title: Re: Have the Torque star drags been discontinued
Post by: Keta on July 12, 2019, 02:23:17 PM
Yup, it is a Torque "25NN".  

Too bad I've been "working" lately and have some $, I ordered one this morning.  I'm waiting for a TRQ40XNLD2 to come out now.
Title: Re: Have the Torque star drags been discontinued
Post by: Tunanorth on July 13, 2019, 02:28:55 AM
Heard the shipping department has been working overtime, and several San Diego area dealers have already received them, and anglers immediately buying them.
Title: Re: Have the Torque star drags been discontinued
Post by: Rivverrat on July 13, 2019, 06:58:38 PM
Quote from: mrbrklyn on July 13, 2019, 06:22:23 PM
Quote from: natch! on July 06, 2019, 06:34:13 PM
While reading a thread on surface iron reels in Bloody Decks I saw a comment that the TRQ star drags have been discontinued.

Jack

that would be very stupid

    I agree with the sentiment. But it is true. What I have felt is / was the best star drag ever made is no more. Penn has them listed on sale on their site to clear out remaining inventory. Not enough people had the same feelings about this series of reels as my self & others. I had a bad feeling when several months ago Charkbait chose to no longer keep them in inventory

    None of the newer star drags come close to the all around performance & capability of the Torque star drag. People do not wish to pay the associated price that comes with a stellar, benchmark star drag & that is the sad fact of this matter... Jeff
Title: Re: Have the Torque star drags been discontinued
Post by: Rivverrat on July 13, 2019, 08:22:54 PM
Again I could not agree with you more. I absolutely love my two Torque 12's. I was thinking keep the 25N along with the 12 or 15 or all 3.  My Torque 12's are Mouse sized Monster killers. Spooled with more 60 hollow than I'll ever need & a 50 - 60 short leader fish over 60 lbs. have been brought to boat & bank while fishing heavy very fast current... Jeff
Title: Re: Have the Torque star drags been discontinued
Post by: Tunanorth on July 14, 2019, 12:11:07 AM


People do not wish to pay the associated price that comes with a stellar, benchmark star drag & that is the sad fact of this matter... Jeff
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Bingo!

Title: Re: Have the Torque star drags been discontinued
Post by: Rivverrat on July 14, 2019, 12:58:28 AM
Quote from: mrbrklyn on July 13, 2019, 08:55:03 PM
Quote from: Rivverrat on July 13, 2019, 08:22:54 PM
Again I could not agree with you more. I absolutely love my two Torque 12's. I was thinking keep the 25N along with the 12 or 15 or all 3.  My Torque 12's are Mouse sized Monster killers. Spooled with more 60 hollow than I'll ever need & a 50 - 60 short leader fish over 60 lbs. have been brought to boat & bank while fishing heavy very fast current... Jeff

wow - 60 lb fish... what species?

    Both  Blue Cat & Flathead
Title: Re: Have the Torque star drags been discontinued
Post by: Ron Jones on July 14, 2019, 01:06:15 AM
I dont think that the Torque won the naming game in the star drag arena. Peole thnk more of the Terns or Saltiga's (love that reel) at that price point. Not to mention the guys like Mark and the P$at Ba$$tard that use those oversize bass reels (yes, they are a lot of fun.)
Unless it is truly big gun time, Penn seems to be the old fogie reel, I'm good with that.

The Man
Title: Re: Have the Torque star drags been discontinued
Post by: MarkT on July 14, 2019, 03:13:00 AM
I wouldn't put the Terns in the top tier. They're the new kids on the block but have a lot of trouble achieving their rated drag. Apparently their drag rating #'s are based on an almost empty spool! The Trinidad's are probably on top in the high end star drag arena.  But I think you'll be seeing more Torques now that they're available in silver.
Title: Re: Have the Torque star drags been discontinued
Post by: Tunanorth on July 14, 2019, 04:48:34 AM
Quote from: MarkT on July 14, 2019, 03:13:00 AM
I wouldn't put the Terns in the top tier. They're the new kids on the block but have a lot of trouble achieving their rated drag. Apparently their drag rating #'s are based on an almost empty spool! The Trinidad's are probably on top in the high end star drag arena.  But I think you'll be seeing more Torques now that they're available in silver.


the silver Torques will be in the "lever drag" models only.
Title: Re: Have the Torque star drags been discontinued
Post by: Rivverrat on July 14, 2019, 04:55:50 AM
The Trinidad reels are liked by many people. With their being offered in only high speed they are I think best as a jigging reel & not so good for bait. The Torque in the appropriate size & available gearing could do both. But still not quite as fast as the newer Trinidad. The Trini's are I think 7" per crank faster than the Torque. I agree the Tern is not in the same class as the Torque or Trinidad star drag.  
   
I have two prior generation Trinidad reels.  With regular maintenance, only fresh water use & after only two seasons of use they became so rough they ended up in the bottom of one of my junk buckets with two earlier versions of the Stella's. Given the 12 year old rule that's all I'll say about this brand  :-\

Other than reels I have for people I take out my personal reels get used most every week some every day it's not winter. A lot more durable, more capable reels out today than say 20 or so years. but with their given price I guess I've become more picky & opinionated as I've got older.  Not always a good thing  :P ... Jeff

 
Title: Re: Have the Torque star drags been discontinued
Post by: Ron Jones on July 14, 2019, 05:40:54 AM
I wouldn't put them in the top tier either, but a w
Quote from: MarkT on July 14, 2019, 03:13:00 AM
I wouldn't put the Terns in the top tier. They're the new kids on the block but have a lot of trouble achieving their rated drag. Apparently their drag rating #'s are based on an almost empty spool! The Trinidad's are probably on top in the high end star drag arena.  But I think you'll be seeing more Torques now that they're available in silver.

I don't think the Tern's are top tier either, but a whole bunch of people on boats are upset that Armani doesn't make fishing clothing, even if it sucked. When you want people to be impressed by your money as much as your ability, you buy the Tern and then hope no one notices that you "don't deserve such a fine fishing instrument" to paraphrase Ferris.
The Man