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Fishing => Setting Up Your Reel to Go Fishing => Topic started by: Lingwendil on August 23, 2019, 08:11:28 PM

Title: Use the line nub on penn spools when putting line on?
Post by: Lingwendil on August 23, 2019, 08:11:28 PM
Getting ready to spool up a couple Penn 209 reels with 20# Berkley Big Game clear mono, one aluminum spool, one stainless spool. Both have the nub that is meant to be used to attach line to the spool. Would it be better to tie off to this nub, or to put the line directly to the spool with an arbor or uni knot? I see very little mention of this, but I've been told not to use the nub. Any help would be appreciated  8)
Title: Re: Use the line nub on penn spools when putting line on?
Post by: MarkT on August 23, 2019, 09:05:13 PM
I never use it.  I just tie to the spool with a uni knot.
Title: Re: Use the line nub on penn spools when putting line on?
Post by: RowdyW on August 23, 2019, 09:49:52 PM
If the spool has a nub I use it.      Rudy
Title: Re: Use the line nub on penn spools when putting line on?
Post by: Bill B on August 24, 2019, 03:04:21 AM
I do not tie directly to the nub, rather when tying to the arbor, I make sure the wraps cross around so if the line starts sliding on the arbor the nub will catch and stop further slipping....if any of that makes sense...Bill
Title: Re: Use the line nub on penn spools when putting line on?
Post by: Alto Mare on August 24, 2019, 03:10:19 AM
Quote from: RowdyW on August 23, 2019, 09:49:52 PM
If the spool has a nub I use it.      Rudy

Yup, same here.

Sal
Title: Re: Use the line nub on penn spools when putting line on?
Post by: Gfish on August 24, 2019, 03:19:57 AM
You could do 1 wrap around the nub then continue around the spool and finish with a uni or arbor knot. This'ed prevent slippage and probably give you a better knot, than if you just tied off on the nub.
Title: Re: Use the line nub on penn spools when putting line on?
Post by: wfjord on August 24, 2019, 03:31:49 AM
I never knew what was proper. Figured it was left up to the imagination of the purchaser. I just tie onto the arbor with a uni, put a couple wraps around the nub and load the line on.
Title: Re: Use the line nub on penn spools when putting line on?
Post by: oc1 on August 24, 2019, 06:49:43 AM
X2 what Bill, Gfish and wfjord said.  Tie it to the arbor and use the nub to keep it from slipping.
Title: Re: Use the line nub on penn spools when putting line on?
Post by: Lingwendil on August 25, 2019, 12:07:22 AM
Thanks guys, I tied to the spool with the nub nearby to prevent slipping. Should last nicely.

Man, I sure do like that Berkley big game. Went with 20# solar green on this one so it's easier to see while night fishing. Looks like a rope under blacklight or white LED.
Title: Re: Use the line nub on penn spools when putting line on?
Post by: Cor on August 25, 2019, 02:28:47 AM
Quote from: Bill B (Tarfu) on August 24, 2019, 03:04:21 AM
I do not tie directly to the nub, rather when tying to the arbor, I make sure the wraps cross around so if the line starts sliding on the arbor the nub will catch and stop further slipping....if any of that makes sense...Bill
Yes it does, that is what I do as well. 
I am not too fussed about it as most reels dont have one and the modern Penns I own have a hole through the arbour.
Title: Re: Use the line nub on penn spools when putting line on?
Post by: Donnyboat on August 25, 2019, 03:51:33 AM
I have two half hitches around the spool then tye to the nub, ajust the line so it is tight on the nub, then tight on to the half hitches, then run line close to that area, as I start winding it on, I like the Berkeley line, if you bend it over hard & the straighten it out, it does not get that memory line across it like some of the cheep leed lines do, I use it for leed line, cheers Don.
Title: Re: Use the line nub on penn spools when putting line on?
Post by: alantani on August 25, 2019, 04:08:49 AM
Quote from: MarkT on August 23, 2019, 09:05:13 PM
I never use it.  I just tie to the spool with a uni knot.

yeah, the nub will pull out!
Title: Re: Use the line nub on penn spools when putting line on?
Post by: RowdyW on August 25, 2019, 05:24:49 AM
If a fish pulls all your line off till there is a straight pull on the nub you might as well wrap the line on a cleat because you didn't have enough reel for that fish. If the nub doesn't fail you are going to pull the hook, straighten the hook, or break the line pulling with a bare spool anyway.  :o :o JMO
Title: Re: Use the line nub on penn spools when putting line on?
Post by: Bryan Young on August 25, 2019, 05:40:51 AM
I pull the nub and tie to the arbor.   The nub can nick the line so I don't want anything there that can nick the line.
Title: Re: Use the line nub on penn spools when putting line on?
Post by: foakes on August 25, 2019, 02:07:39 PM
It is just like winching your stuck vehicle out of a creek —

Why secure your strapping and cable to a branch — when you can just use the trunk that the branch is growing out of?

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: Use the line nub on penn spools when putting line on?
Post by: Alto Mare on August 25, 2019, 02:23:29 PM
Slippage!

If you attach the line to the nub correctly, there wouldn't be any damage to it.
They've been using it for years with no issue. The nub is not sharp on the edges, I removed many dacron lines in the past with no sign of damage.

Sal
Title: Re: Use the line nub on penn spools when putting line on?
Post by: SoCalAngler on August 26, 2019, 03:32:55 AM
Do what you feel is right. I think I have only one reel that has a "nub" and I have never tied to it. Other reels that I own have a thru hole on the spool, AKA like the Penn Fathom's and I think on my Torque's also. I have never used that thru hole either, like stated if you tie on the line correctly to the arbor these IMO should not be needed.

Look at true big game reels, have you ever seen the arbor tie down on those? Well on those reels that have been built in the last 15 years or so? In my opinion if they were truly necessary I think you would see them on every big game reel and not on the little bait casters or other smaller game reels. Just something to think about.
Title: Re: Use the line nub on penn spools when putting line on?
Post by: ez2cdave on September 19, 2019, 02:55:54 PM
Quote from: alantani on August 25, 2019, 04:08:49 AM

yeah, the nub will pull out!

Alan,

Thanks for the warning . . . That would be a "bad surprise" !

Tight Lines !

Dave F.
Title: Re: Use the line nub on penn spools when putting line on?
Post by: CapeFish on September 19, 2019, 03:17:13 PM
Quote from: Bryan Young on August 25, 2019, 05:40:51 AM
I pull the nub and tie to the arbor.   The nub can nick the line so I don't want anything there that can nick the line.

I do the same, I pull the nubs out and just tie on with a decent knot. If I use braid I may first put some mono around then tie that to the braid.
Title: Re: Use the line nub on penn spools when putting line on?
Post by: Sharkb8 on September 20, 2019, 10:30:58 AM
I manly use mono line and I just tie a loop knot and sit it over the nib. If I am about to get spood I lock up the drag and clamp down with my hand if it slips the line comes off without damaging the nib or the reel.
Title: Re: Use the line nub on penn spools when putting line on?
Post by: Lingwendil on September 20, 2019, 02:35:50 PM
Thanks for the comments guys. I've done a couple each way just to see how it goes. It is easier to tie off to the nub, which is good for my fumbly hands.  ;D
Title: Re: Use the line nub on penn spools when putting line on?
Post by: broadway on November 03, 2019, 07:55:41 PM
Never had a nib pull out, and I also use them when available.  Totally agree with Rudy that if you get down that low nothing is gonna stop that fish from taking that knot right off your arbor or nib.
Best,
Dom