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Spinning Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Shimano => Topic started by: 2Rod on August 24, 2019, 07:30:01 PM



Title: Shimano Stradic 4000FH
Post by: 2Rod on August 24, 2019, 07:30:01 PM
I am having issues with a Stradic 4000FH.  The reel spins and sounds normal when just turning the handle, but when there is a fish on the reel makes a more noticeable ticking sound when turning the handle and bringing the fish to the boat.

Can anyone help identify what part(s) I need to look into replacing?

Thanks for your help!


Title: Re: Shimano Stradic 4000FH
Post by: alantani on August 24, 2019, 08:10:23 PM
hopefully someone can help.  i just don't know enough about spinners......   :-\


Title: Re: Shimano Stradic 4000FH
Post by: oc1 on August 24, 2019, 09:13:29 PM
Is that the drag click going off?  I know even less about spinners.
-steve


Title: Re: Shimano Stradic 4000FH
Post by: Gfish on August 24, 2019, 09:23:18 PM
Are you able to disassemble the reel and check the moving parts?


Title: Re: Shimano Stradic 4000FH
Post by: 2Rod on August 25, 2019, 08:21:53 AM
Yes, I can disassemble the reel. 

I have cleaned and lubricated several times in the years I have owned it. 
Also replaced the felt drag washers with carbon fiber washers.  I have done this on multiple different Stradic models I own and none have caused any issue.  I do not believe it is the drag.

I also replaced Part 6130 - Roller Clutch Assy, which did not resolve the issue. 

I am looking for insight on what specific parts in the reel could be the problem when it is under load. 
Any suggestions?


Title: Re: Shimano Stradic 4000FH
Post by: foakes on August 25, 2019, 08:34:48 AM
One of the most knowledgeable folks about Shimano Spinners on our site is philaroman.

Best,

Fred


Title: Re: Shimano Stradic 4000FH
Post by: Gfish on August 25, 2019, 10:54:39 AM
I'd start with the handle b.bearings, move to the pinion b.bearing, then look at the ossilation system and then check the gear teeth with magnification. This is based on my 2 fj's, the fh must be an earlier model, and may be diffrent.
Philoroman! You there?


Title: Re: Shimano Stradic 4000FH
Post by: Wolli on August 25, 2019, 02:05:18 PM
replace the line roller bearing (RD7915) and the problem ist solved.  Dimensions 4x8x3

Good Luck


Title: Re: Shimano Stradic 4000FH
Post by: 2Rod on August 25, 2019, 04:56:00 PM
Thanks for all the replies.  I will order a new line roller bearing and install it.
I will let you know the results in a week or so.

Thanks!


Title: Re: Shimano Stradic 4000FH
Post by: philaroman on October 02, 2019, 11:10:21 AM
sorry, didn't log in for a couple/few months...  55 pages of unread/updated posts can only be skimmed, LOL

have someone operate the reel under enough load to "tick", while it's next to your ear to figure out what area/parts are ticking

are you still on your original gears?  ...might be time to replace, after 15+ yrs.


replace the line roller bearing (RD7915)    OR OTHER LINE-ROLLER PARTS   and the problem ist solved.  Dimensions 4x8x3

another possibility, but don't buy anything before you examine the original parts & KNOW which new ones are needed


Title: Re: Shimano Stradic 4000FH
Post by: 2Rod on November 03, 2019, 10:13:01 AM
philaroman

I have replaced the the following bearings:
2293 Drive Gear Bushing (I also tried a ball bearing in place of the bushing - to no avail)
7801 Bearing (Handle)
7934 Ball Bearing (The one that rides on the pinion gear shaft)
7915 Ball Bearing (Line roller)

I had spares of all but the 7915, so it was easy to swap them out.  None have resolved my problem. 

The reel still has original gears.  Which are most suspect to fail? 
I know what you mean when you say to listen to the reel under load, but I do not know how to identify which part when it is all closed up. 
Any additional help is appreciated!


Title: Re: Shimano Stradic 4000FH
Post by: nelz on November 03, 2019, 07:08:38 PM
When I read your problem I immediately suspected the oscillation mechanism, not surprised changing those bearings didn't work. I believe the worm gear is the culprit, maybe the pawl, I'd replace both. Good luck and keep us posted.


Title: Re: Shimano Stradic 4000FH
Post by: Gfish on November 10, 2019, 09:11:35 AM
2Rod, didja find the cause? This one is interesting.


Title: Re: Shimano Stradic 4000FH
Post by: handi2 on November 10, 2019, 10:42:57 AM
I see this many times and it turns out to be the line roller bearing


Title: Re: Shimano Stradic 4000FH
Post by: 2Rod on December 11, 2019, 04:40:08 AM
I replaced both the worm gear and pawl and the reel runs much better.  I had some difficulty finding new parts for a 15+ year old reel, but eventually succeeded.  I just got the parts installed so I have not operated the reel under load yet.  Maybe this weekend...  I will post again after I do that.

Thanks everyone for your input!


Title: Re: Shimano Stradic 4000FH
Post by: 2Rod on January 04, 2020, 06:29:42 PM
Runs like a champ under load now.  Replacing the worm gear and pawl was the answer.
Thanks for your help!