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Spinning Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Abu Garcia/Garcia/Mitchell => Mitchell => Topic started by: festus on October 05, 2019, 01:28:11 AM

Title: Garcia Mitchell 304--detailed look inside and service
Post by: festus on October 05, 2019, 01:28:11 AM
The last couple of days I came into possession of two Garcia Mitchell 304.  Yesterday I posted a brief look with photos of the first one on Mo's B-grade spinning reel thread.  Today I opened the second one which has a couple of variations.  The reel was functioning very well even though it may have never been serviced.

There are several YouTube videos on servicing various models of Garcia Mitchell reels--the 300, 308, and 302.  I checked and didn't see a 304 tutorial on this forum so I thought I'd jump right in.
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Removing the handle by cranking in a clockwise direction.
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An old tool from a Shakespeare Royal Maroon spinning reel is a perfect fit for the cover plate screws.
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Removing the cover plate.  Lots of old grease inside that is still soft.
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Removing the drive gear exposes even more of that soft brown grease.
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A look at the anti-reverse assembly on the back side of the cover plate.
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A look at the face of the drive gear exposes something different than the reel I serviced yesterday--a crosswind cam.
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Swabbing off the oscillating slide to expose the screws.
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Removing the oscillating slide and screws.
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Removing the axle and spool.
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Removing the lube port screw.
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Using a 5/16" socket to remove the rotor hex nut.
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Removing the bail trip.
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Underneath is one bail trip washer and one rotor shim.
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A look at the trip lever, trip lever screw, and trip lever spring.
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Removing the bail trip lever assembly.
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Inspecting the bail wire assembly.  It's grungy, so it's a good idea to take it apart and give it a good cleaning.
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These 304 are the simplest built Garcia Mitchell I've serviced, but seem very efficient.  As I mentioned earlier, the grease was still soft, so cleanup wasn't too difficult.
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Reassembling the bail wire and components.
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Reassembling the bail trip lever components.
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Reassembling the bail trip and fastening the rotor and pinon back to the housing.
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A look at a clean drive gear and crosswind cam.  
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Another look after reassembly and lubrication.
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Oiling the axle with Ardent Reel Butter reel oil.
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Fastening the oscillating slide to the axle.
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Reattaching the drive gear to the oscillating slide.
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Oiling the drive gear shaft.
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Reattaching the handle knob.
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Reattaching the handle.
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Reattaching spool and drag knob.
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By the way, the spool on the reel I serviced yesterday could be taken apart.  The spool on today's reel is depicted in the schematic as one piece.
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There was a debate yesterday whether these reels should be graded A or B.  I'm still scratching my head and still can't decide.  I'd put them on the borderline of both,  A- or B+.  Back in the day, 1950s and 1960s they were probably considered ultralight reels. By today's standards maybe they'd be considered light or medium.  Actually the diameter of the 304 spool is wider than the larger Mitchell 300.
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Title: Re: Garcia Mitchell 304--detailed look inside and service
Post by: TRS on October 05, 2019, 01:33:16 AM
Thank you, a very nice tutorial.
  I don't have this model, yet. I would put the reel in the A category, they have stood the test of time.

Tom
Title: Re: Garcia Mitchell 304--detailed look inside and service
Post by: Midway Tommy on October 05, 2019, 03:02:57 AM
Nice walk through, Chester!
Title: Re: Garcia Mitchell 304--detailed look inside and service
Post by: BocaSnook1 on October 05, 2019, 03:12:03 AM
Thanks so much for the Tutorial.   

I received my first 304 six months ago and did the rebuild by just taking out each piece and laying them in order of disassembly.  The rebuild came out pretty good so I purchased two more on Ebay for a very low price because they came without handles.

Sure wish I had your tutorial from the beginning.

I really like the Mitchell 304 and found it much easier to service than the Mitchell 300 model

Tad
Title: Re: Garcia Mitchell 304--detailed look inside and service
Post by: bhale1 on October 05, 2019, 03:47:14 AM
Great job...thanks for the tutorial. Your pics are a great help by the way, clear and concise!
Brett
Title: Re: Garcia Mitchell 304--detailed look inside and service
Post by: Crow on October 05, 2019, 12:45:42 PM
Another great write up,Festus !!
Title: Re: Garcia Mitchell 304--detailed look inside and service
Post by: mo65 on October 05, 2019, 03:31:33 PM
   Great tutorial Chester! That simplicity is something I like in a reel...less chances for something to go wrong. 8)
Title: Re: Garcia Mitchell 304--detailed look inside and service
Post by: foakes on October 05, 2019, 04:31:44 PM
Chester is excellent with his tutorials!

Good job, Sir...

Thought of Festus (Chester) when we attended an antique event in Clovis, last Sunday.

This is the town that Ken Curtis (Festus on Gunsmoke) called home.  The town erected a statue in his honor.

Great history -- excellent professional singer, WWII vet, successful actor, and a good modest family man that did not go in for the Hollywood lifestyle.

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: Garcia Mitchell 304--detailed look inside and service
Post by: happyhooker on October 06, 2019, 02:42:44 AM
Nice look at a reel all too often overlooked.

Frank
Title: Re: Garcia Mitchell 304--detailed look inside and service
Post by: festus on October 11, 2019, 09:37:10 PM
Quote from: foakes on October 05, 2019, 04:31:44 PM
Chester is excellent with his tutorials!

Good job, Sir...

Thought of Festus (Chester) when we attended an antique event in Clovis, last Sunday.

This is the town that Ken Curtis (Festus on Gunsmoke) called home.  The town erected a statue in his honor.

Great history -- excellent professional singer, WWII vet, successful actor, and a good modest family man that did not go in for the Hollywood lifestyle.

Best,

Fred
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Title: Re: Garcia Mitchell 304--detailed look inside and service
Post by: Crow on October 11, 2019, 10:01:35 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Garcia Mitchell 304--detailed look inside and service
Post by: mo65 on December 17, 2019, 05:18:45 PM
Hey Fellas,
   I picked up a 304 because...well...everybody should have at least one of these.;) The first thing I noticed was it was completely filled with grease, just like my uncle's 304 always was. It's just the way they lubed reels back in the day. After I scraped it all out, I thought about how easy a tiny spring or screw could be trapped in that petroleum glob. I deferred to the schematic to check off all parts on the list before tossing that rag into the trash. After cleaning all the nuggets I polished the bail wire and handle arm. This reel doesn't have super tight tolerances, but properly lubed it does have a decent feel. The design contributes to it's ability to live forever...one of Mitchell's classics! 8)
Title: Re: Garcia Mitchell 304--detailed look inside and service
Post by: handi2 on December 17, 2019, 05:22:46 PM
Very nice Chester,

Look for the older Mitchell CAP reels that are almost if not identical to the 304.

Keith
Title: Re: Garcia Mitchell 304--detailed look inside and service
Post by: foakes on December 17, 2019, 06:11:10 PM
Looks like you are already money ahead for next year, Mike!

Won't need to buy any grease for at least 6 months!

Nice little reels!

Plus, a really superior clean up job -- just like new...

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: Garcia Mitchell 304--detailed look inside and service
Post by: Midway Tommy on December 17, 2019, 06:30:00 PM
Sure cleaned up nicely, Mike. It amazes me how well those nylon/plastic crosswind blocks have stood up over time.  :o They're kind of like the Energizer Bunny.  ;D
Title: Re: Garcia Mitchell 304--detailed look inside and service
Post by: festus on December 17, 2019, 08:22:40 PM
Great job, Mo.  Those 304 are good prospects for a novice reel repairman. Very simple and easy to service.  Actually I've found the most difficult chore with one of those is removing the cover plate screws or crosswind block screws without boogering them. 
Title: Re: Garcia Mitchell 304--detailed look inside and service
Post by: mo65 on December 17, 2019, 08:44:25 PM
Quote from: Midway Tommy on December 17, 2019, 06:30:00 PM
Sure cleaned up nicely, Mike. It amazes me how well those nylon/plastic crosswind blocks have stood up over time.  :o They're kind of like the Energizer Bunny.  ;D

   Tommy brings up an excellent point here. Why is it some plastic parts dry and fall apart, while others stand the test of time? I'm sure it's the type of formula used...or possibly the formula's resistance to oils and greases. 8)
Title: Re: Garcia Mitchell 304--detailed look inside and service
Post by: oc1 on December 18, 2019, 04:04:53 AM
Quote from: Midway Tommy on December 17, 2019, 06:30:00 PM
Sure cleaned up nicely, Mike. It amazes me how well those nylon/plastic crosswind blocks have stood up over time.  :o They're kind of like the Energizer Bunny.  ;D

Huh?  Chester's look like plastic, but......

Quote from: festus on October 05, 2019, 01:28:11 AM
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Mike's looks like brass.
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What's the deal?
Just tell me and please don't make me open mine to see what I have.  
-steve
Title: Re: Garcia Mitchell 304--detailed look inside and service
Post by: mo65 on December 18, 2019, 02:11:15 PM
!! Don't Open Yours Steve !!
  Mine is just stained from that dark grease...makes it appear brassy...but it is definitely plastic.  8)