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Title: Finally pouring some octopus-jig heads
Post by: gstours on October 07, 2019, 12:41:17 PM
Thanks to the many contributions made on this topic I finally got a couple of testing jigs made for a late halibut trip a couple of folks are planning.  These are 12 oz, and balanced correctly it seems.
   I have had some problems with the first couple of pours.  Butt itís a long time coming.


Title: Re: Finally pouring some octopus-jig heads
Post by: Crow on October 07, 2019, 12:52:02 PM
Looks good to me...and I bet the fish think so, to !


Title: Re: Finally pouring some octopus-jig heads
Post by: Captain64-200 on October 07, 2019, 02:21:28 PM
Looks like a giant MadaÔ , nice work !


Title: Re: Finally pouring some octopus-jig heads
Post by: CooldadE on October 07, 2019, 04:16:30 PM
I like um !

 Cool


Title: Re: Finally pouring some octopus-jig heads
Post by: Hardy Boy on October 08, 2019, 07:24:54 AM
Nothing wrong with that Gary ! The only thing I do differently is put the skirt on the jig head itself ................. I'm sure it will work great either way. I add a thin piece of salmon shin or thin stip of octo on the hook and the large single hook really gets em good with great solid hook ups with not many ever shaking off.


Cheers:


Todd


Title: Re: Finally pouring some octopus-jig heads
Post by: gstours on October 08, 2019, 09:28:50 AM
Thanks,  I wanna try to paint 🎨 some with different colors other than natural octopus 🐙 butt donít really know why.   The skirt on backwards was in my planning butt  pictures will follow.
  The locals up here are very partial to the kodiak jig.  These are usually black with an articulated skirt and double j hooks.   


Title: Re: Finally pouring some octopus-jig heads
Post by: gstours on October 08, 2019, 09:38:38 AM
These are steel clones to the kodiak jig. About 9 oz,  in the rough.
   When I can do shallow water or slack tiny tides this is in the works.
We put the boy pictured to work with one prototype as he had lots of energy a little while ago.


Title: Re: Finally pouring some octopus-jig heads
Post by: Crow on October 08, 2019, 10:02:00 AM
Good one !!


Title: Re: Finally pouring some octopus-jig heads
Post by: Benni3 on October 08, 2019, 03:34:28 PM
Looks fabulous,,,,,great job,,,, ;D


Title: Re: Finally pouring some octopus-jig heads
Post by: gstours on October 10, 2019, 09:49:48 AM
Playing with some paint schemes for near future.  Hereís a peek.  Lots of variables.
    It also looks like rain.


Title: Re: Finally pouring some octopus-jig heads
Post by: Dominick on October 10, 2019, 09:59:50 AM
Nice work as usual Gary.  Dominick


Title: Re: Finally pouring some octopus-jig heads
Post by: gstours on October 11, 2019, 08:35:22 AM
Thanks, and rainy weather is great for indoor fishing stuff. 
   The cat could care.🙋‍♂️🐙☔️


Title: Re: Finally pouring some octopus-jig heads
Post by: gstours on October 13, 2019, 09:32:18 AM
Got some more painting done ✅. Butt now itís sunny again. 


Title: Re: Finally pouring some octopus-jig heads
Post by: Newell Nut on October 13, 2019, 01:28:13 PM
Gary, your post are always very interesting and entertaining. Thanks

Dwight


Title: Re: Finally pouring some octopus-jig heads
Post by: boon on October 14, 2019, 03:36:31 AM
The speckled/mottled finish looks great.

Over the last season in our local waters I did really well with black Kabura sliders (also look like a little octopus in the water) in depths over about 150ft. Might be worth a try?


Title: Re: Finally pouring some octopus-jig heads
Post by: Donnyboat on October 14, 2019, 04:55:40 AM
Thanks Gary, nice pics, very interesting, please let us know how they go, cheers Don.


Title: Re: Finally pouring some octopus-jig heads
Post by: gstours on October 15, 2019, 09:47:41 AM
Hereís finally a jig completed, and ready for a bait.  Thereís a lot of variables in these things it seems.
   Butt this on is made from some recycling of parts from my inventory.   Itís going to be fun to test these soon.   I used to drift fish and jig for halibut quite a bit years ago and maybe itís just going back to my roots?  🎣🐙🚣🧜‍♂️


Title: Re: Finally pouring some octopus-jig heads
Post by: Hardy Boy on October 15, 2019, 10:12:09 AM
That looks good Gary with the skirt on the jig head. I just put one large 10/0 hook or 11/0 on my jigs and they hook and hold really well with the vast majority of fish being hooked in the top of the mouth and not in the corner. I loose very few fish with the one hook plus they are easy to release with the single if need be.................................... butt you have a different fishery .......just a comment and may be worth a try if you are looking at experimenting. Nice job on the paint.

Cheers:

Todd


Title: Re: Finally pouring some octopus-jig heads
Post by: gstours on October 16, 2019, 10:01:43 AM
Thanks,  youíre single siwash is simple and easy to switch.  I liked the copper/ gold color paint.
   I am wondering if colors make a difference?  What is your favorite color for halibut jigs?
        Up here itís usually white or glow in the dark paint.   Just wondering?


Title: Re: Finally pouring some octopus-jig heads
Post by: Hardy Boy on October 16, 2019, 10:45:56 AM
I usually paint them glow but I have painted them white, silver and gold. I like the glow the best and its my go to (glow paint and glow skirt) but I have caught fish on all colours. I fish mostly over 250 feet so I think the glow helps down deep where there is no light. If you fish a rocky bottom, like I do, then the paint on the bottom half all gets chipped off in a hurry. I have had a few jigs with almost all of the paint gone and they still caught fish (butt what fun would fishing a plain jig head be ???). Where I fish we get lings and rockfish along with the halibut and the single works well on those fish also; butt you are right its easy to swap hooks with the split ring. I love the bite you get when you are jigging and holding the rod...... tap tap and then ......... wham !!......................... nothing like it.


Cheers:

Todd



Title: Re: Finally pouring some octopus-jig heads
Post by: gstours on October 17, 2019, 10:14:04 AM
Thanks for the paint color info,  hereís some more for next year.  These are 12 oz. and from Daveís Silicone mold,  the finish is very good on the lead surface.
   The brown mottled one is a 16 oz, and made from my plaster of Paris creation.  Iím not done trying to improve things, butt still learning every time some thing is done.
   This winter is the time I will try to buy the skirts, and supplies to complete my schemes.


Title: Re: Finally pouring some octopus-jig heads
Post by: Hardy Boy on October 17, 2019, 10:21:59 AM
Gary: This place has the best glow skirts I have found anywhere and their prices are good and in Canadian $$. Shipping is also very reasonable. The "nuke" glow are like nothing else I have seen. If need be I can reship to you or something. Have fun.

https://www.supertackle.info/


Cheers:


Todd


Title: Re: Finally pouring some octopus-jig heads
Post by: gstours on October 20, 2019, 12:44:47 PM
Thanks for the link to your glow skirts supplies.  Below is a couple Iím recycling onto a couple to get the things in the water.  These were installed facing forward and whipped on w thread, coated n pulled back to uncover the painted eyes 👀.  These are going to have tandem j hooks and fished w stripes of bait.


Title: Re: Finally pouring some octopus-jig heads
Post by: gstours on October 24, 2019, 06:55:36 PM
I,m back trying to complete a few more before winter 🥶 sets in,   Sure hoping to soak a few of these creations.   I hope others will gain some things from this... buttt,   Who knows.?


Title: Re: Finally pouring some octopus-jig heads
Post by: Hardy Boy on October 25, 2019, 07:24:42 AM
Gary: Those look great. The skirt looks way better mounted like that. I picked up a chicken 20 lber last Saturday on one of mine shown in my picture. last butt of the year.


Cheers:

Todd


Title: Re: Finally pouring some octopus-jig heads
Post by: gstours on October 26, 2019, 09:12:10 AM
Chicken is good,  glad you got out again.  Or weather is off and on.  Meaning off when you can go!
   But much is getting ready for next year.  Dave makes a great jig head mold, and the options are great 👍.  He likes a stinger hook outside of the skirts as maybe these are for mid water column fish?  The skirt can be wipped backwards easily with the way itís designed and should hold it on quite nicely.
   Butt hereís my old way for big baits.


Title: Re: Finally pouring some octopus-jig heads
Post by: jurelometer on October 26, 2019, 11:08:00 AM
He likes a stinger hook outside of the skirts as maybe these are for mid water column fish? 


Rocks!

The middle eye that you are not using in your casts is intended for an assist hook.  Assist hooks don't snag the bottom much.   But if you want to run really large hooks, I could see why it might be better to rig trailing instead.

(https://alantani.com/gallery/25/11927_29_09_18_2_45_49.jpeg)

 I personally like to keep the skirt on the medium to small side, and whip it to the the jig head to keep everything as streamlined as possible.  This  lets the jig drop faster and then fish at the designed  orientation.  But I also like the action of backward skirts ...

So that is just the original design. I am sure there are  better ways to rig it for various fisheries.  I did try to design the head to have lots of rigging options.   I am very interested in seeing what our resident halibut king  comes up with.  I am learning stuff already!

 -J


Title: Re: Finally pouring some octopus-jig heads
Post by: gstours on October 28, 2019, 06:19:38 PM
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and pictures.  Here is another way to attach the skirt.  If the skirt is too large trim it.  I snip the nose off and butterflie it. It now can be put on a jig with the hooks on it. 
  Below is my new favorite method.


Title: Re: Finally pouring some octopus-jig heads
Post by: gstours on October 28, 2019, 06:30:47 PM
Next whipping is fun and easy, I use polyester thread 🧵 in a fly tying bobbin.  Using a little tension and many wraps it seems to hold very well.   The skirt can be trimmed for length if desired.  Add some thread cement or epoxy to give it a long life if desired.
   Later a little heat from a butane or propane torch will soften the thread to make your change if desired.


Title: Re: Finally pouring some octopus-jig heads
Post by: gstours on October 29, 2019, 05:49:49 PM
Another skirt is wrapped on the lead.   The skirt is trimmed to fit a bit better.  If you wanted less material you could slice some off and save or discard.   The spool shape of the rear attachment area is well designed.  Thanks.


Title: Re: Finally pouring some octopus-jig heads
Post by: pjstevko on October 29, 2019, 08:06:06 PM
Those are some sweet looking jigs!

If you want I can field test them for you out in Morro Bay in a couple weeks ;D  ::) ;D ::)


Title: Re: Finally pouring some octopus-jig heads
Post by: gstours on October 30, 2019, 07:04:50 PM
Ok i,m always to little, and too late.   Mr.pjstevko I,d be glad to send you one in your choice of colors Butt i,m on a winter vacation to Oregon and not home for about the first of the new year,  I did not bring any with me and will be glad to send you possibly a more refined version of these jigs.    I haven't had  a good chance to fish these either,  it seems like the weather and my windows closed sooner than I expected, nor wanted.   The mold is in good shape and in my spare winter time up north i,m planning on pouring some more lead being more careful.
   I feel good about how these are different in design, colors, hook options, and am confident they will work good.   


Title: Re: Finally pouring some octopus-jig heads
Post by: gstours on November 03, 2019, 08:39:28 AM
Hereís another skirt a little shorter thatís a 2 pc skirt and it could be the glow inner part (shown) might be the outer skirt or just a single skirt used.   This is marketed by Delta tackle.  I can find them reasonable and in a 2 pk.  About 6$ Alaska dollars 💵.


Title: Re: Finally pouring some octopus-jig heads
Post by: pjstevko on November 03, 2019, 06:58:43 PM
Hereís another skirt a little shorter thatís a 2 pc skirt and it could be the glow inner part (shown) might be the outer skirt or just a single skirt used.   This is marketed by Delta tackle.  I can find them reasonable and in a 2 pk.  About 6$ Alaska dollars 💵.

Looks great and I'm sure they'll be fish killers!


Title: Re: Finally pouring some octopus-jig heads
Post by: gstours on November 03, 2019, 07:29:36 PM
These are quite a bit sturdier than most skirts.  Presently my jigs shown are planned to be used with tandem j hooks using bait hanging.    I,m sure they will catch some things.


Title: Re: Finally pouring some octopus-jig heads
Post by: gstours on November 03, 2019, 07:37:25 PM
Hereís another crazy twist to the fish, the forward angle will make the jig appear more lively Iím thinking 🤔.  As a part human itís my thinking that may move the center of the gobble forward some?  Thatís to the jigs advantage.   Maybe?


Title: Re: Finally pouring some octopus-jig heads
Post by: thorhammer on November 04, 2019, 04:31:50 AM
Gary, those look great! I haven't seen a grouper throw up an octopus but everything down here eats squid, and I've no doubt your jigs would get crushed with a squid pinned on! I wish I had time to do this!


John