this might sound like a silly question, but pretty sure someone here should know.
how do you unpack to spool a reel from a fishing line coil ?
I bought last year a sufix supersoft 115lb line 500yds from a package that came in 5 coils of 100yds each.
I tried to spool a reel directly from the coil and it was a mess, the line coming to the reel had several in&outs around the coil making lots of "knots" that got tightened if I tried to take more line from it, it didnt let me just crack on the reel and spool it line a normal spool let you do it.
in order to spool the line I had to find a big empty spool and put all the line from the coil there but I spent several hours (I was watching tv ) to put the 500yds into the spool, some months later I saw a video of a guys explaining how you are suposed to take the line from those line leader coils to prevent making knots on the rest of the coiled line, but of course I cant find it.
now I had to bought again one of those line pack in coils presentation but in 80# test for a 114h reel of a friend cuz it was the only line available locally.
anyone knows the trick to easily taking out all the 100yds coiled line per package
Take the line off hand over hand stright up like a lasso,,,,,, :D but I could be wrong,,,,, ;) if so I have ran it off in the river or behind the boat to get the twist out,,,,,, ;D
Quote from: steelfish on January 15, 2020, 02:34:04 AM
this might sound like a silly question, but pretty sure someone here should know.
how do you unpack to spool a reel from a fishing line coil ?
I bought last year a sufix supersoft 115lb line 500yds from a package that came in 5 coils of 100yds each.
I tried to spool a reel directly from the coil and it was a mess, the line coming to the reel had several in&outs around the coil making lots of "knots" that got tightened if I tried to take more line from it, it didnt let me just crack on the reel and spool it line a normal spool let you do it.
in order to spool the line I had to find a big empty spool and put all the line from the coil there but I spent several hours (I was watching tv ) to put the 500yds into the spool, some months later I saw a video of a guys explaining how you are suposed to take the line from those line leader coils to prevent making knots on the rest of the coiled line, but of course I cant find it.
now I had to buy again one of those line package in coils cuz it was the only line available local and I needed that line size.
anyone knows the trick to easily taking out all the 100yds coiled line per package
Sorry to say I have not found a easy way to do what your trying to do. Large diameter lines like like 100 lb test and over in my mind were never to be spooled onto a reel like your trying to do. Most of the coils are meant for leader material and not for spooling. Heavy lines like your talking about that you want to put many yards onto your reel come on a spool.
You could try this, but I'm not sure it would work. Get a bucket that the line spool will fit into. Then get a rod or something round and put it through the middle of the coil and make sure the coil and rod will not lift off the bucket. Tie-wraps, other line or cord the rod to the bucket. Next fill the bucket with water trying to cover as much of the coil as you can. Attach the line to the reel and wind slowly.
Underwraps and such will be a pain but if you move slowly more often than not you can work those out with the coil in the bucket.
Like I said leader material normally comes in coils so removing 3-5 yards or more is not a problem. Now spooling 100 yards of heavy line onto a reel, only buy that on a spool.
Good luck my friend.
The only way to do it is with an assistant to hold the coil when you crank the reel. The only way.
These coils are sold to test the mental health of anglers, can you unwind a coil without throwing the ultimate tantrum? I think it can easily be introduced as the final test of special forces training :) I asked my youngest son to help me with the last one and his hand slip after the third coil and that was it, the mother of all tangles, an our later I salvaged about 70m of line. The commercial anglers here use them as handlines, I want to find out from them how to best do it.
Quote from: SoCalAngler on January 15, 2020, 05:03:48 AM
Like I said leader material normally comes in coils so removing 3-5 yards or more is not a problem. Now spooling 100 yards of heavy line onto a reel, only buy that on a spool.
Good luck my friend.
thanks buddy, this isnt actually leader material, just monofilament line that is sold in coils, you can find them from 15lb to 150lb or more, I just havent found the reason why is still sold in this form and which is the best way to unravel the coil for a easy use, as someone already said it, many commercial fishermen use it for hand-line, maybe they just throw it in the water as Benny said to uncoil by itselft.
Quote from: CapeFish on January 15, 2020, 12:49:21 PM
..........the last one and his hand slip after the third coil and that was it, the mother of all tangles, an our later I salvaged about 70m of line.
glad to know Im not the only one that find this mono line coils as a gift from hell.
anyway, I already knew what I was getting into when I bought it this second time
Alex: You are brave to even try that !! I would not have the patience to even try. We used to have a line available here called "Charter Boat" and it came in a coil in a plastic container that sat flat and had a hole in the center that the line pulled out of. The idea was that the coil would uncoil in the container and come out the hole and you could spool away ...............hardly ever worked; usually you got a knot and cursed a bunch, opened the container which promptly resulted in the coils popping out and getting even more snarled !! .................. resulting in more cursing followed by throwing the whole %$&^%** thing away. Good luck with the open coils. ;D
Cheers:
Todd
Quote from: Hardy Boy on January 15, 2020, 11:29:52 PM
........... that sat flat and had a hole in the center that the line pulled out of. The idea was that the coil would uncoil in the container and come out the hole and you could spool away ..
Todd
I have seen those big strong line from the buckets with the hole in the center here too.
well, on my lunch time (at home) and tried something like that, I recall reading something about the coils coming out from the center, so I wrapped few turns in a big empty spool and told my wife to keep puting line into the spool while I took one of the 5 packed coils (100yds each) 15 yards from her and gave some presure with my fingers to prevent the rest of the coiled line to become a nest, trying to let only one coil coming out each time, that worked really good, but Im 100% sure this is not a one person job, it wouldnt work like that without the help of another person and yes, the line was coming out from the coils by the inner side, I had some knots but nothing that I couldnt set free in less than a 1 minute or so.
Ideally the coil would revolve around some sort of axel; like a stick or your arm. If the loops are pulled off from the side there will be a 360 degree twist in the line for every loop.
-steve
Quote from: oc1 on January 16, 2020, 06:57:39 AM
Ideally the coil would revolve around some sort of axel; like a stick or your arm. If the loops are pulled off from the side there will be a 360 degree twist in the line for every loop.
-steve
LOL I use this stuff little enough not to be a problem, imagine me spooling it on my Tranx?
I once put a large diameter plastic bottle through the middle of the coil and locked it in to a vice. It was fairly easy to spool off and on to a hand line device. I have 3 coils in a drawer, I can't open the drawer or the stuff will jump out at me, forbid if I ever need any of it!
I don't buy packs of line to be spliced. Splices mess with my head.
Especially in mono.
I want a continuous line with no splices dealing with monofilament.
I buy my heavy mono in 5lb spools from a company called SNL in Sebastian Florida.
They have good prices and I have it stockpiled.
Been there, done that, got the scars ;D Big hanks of line from 80 to 600lb and over 500 metres long - oh joy. But, great line from a commercial fishing supplier in Norway for a great price so worth the effort.
It depends on the size of the coils but you need to put something inside the coils first to stop the coils collapsing into a nightmare of a knot as you slowly unwind the line onto another spool first.
I have used anything from an empty plastic 2 litre drink bottle to an inverted plastic dustbin (I think you might call these things garbage cans or something ;)). Start with one end of the coil and if it seems to go well, carry on but if it gets knotted immediately, start the other end. One always goes better than the other - no idea why. Go slowly and don't pull any knot tight however frustrated you get.
With a small 'middle' like a drink bottle, you can rig it up somewhere with tape or a stick in a vice to hold it steady but if you are using a big plastic bin, you may need to leave it on the ground and walk round and round to unwind the line. Don't let the line slip off the end of the coil or the middle thingy, like it comes off a spinning reel, or you will get an amazing number of twists!
Once you have all the line neatly organised on another spool (I use one that once held electric flex but an empty bulk line spool of the right size would do) you can wind it from the second spool onto your reel without further ado.
Sad to say, it is almost always going to be a two-step operation and whatever you do, don't cut the retaining ties on the coil and then drop it! Cut them once the hank is safely in place on your first spool/retainer.
Great way to spend a wet afternoon ::)
As an aside, once in Madeira I watched (for an hour or two over a beer or two) several guys untangle a 3mm diameter mono longline that was one giant knot. It was a huge mass of tightly packed line more than ten feet long, almost as wide and higher than any of them. It took them all night but in the morning there was a row of supermarket shopping trolleys lined up on the quayside each holding a huge coil of mono neatly tied and ready to be loaded aboard. You need one of those guys! :D
kinda hokey, but it works!!!!!!! ;D
well, thanks for the recommendations and tips, I already untangled I mean un-rolled all the line and spooled it into a big empty spool I have, most of the line was spooled again into a 114hlw reel, now its full to the brim with 85# test, the line was 500m (546yds) pack coiled into 5 small 100m coils, so from those 5 coils packs 3 where easy as breeze to unpack but 2 of them got tangled one was easy to untangled but the other one made me pay the price, the last 2 coils were easy cuz I took note how to avoid making a big mess.
I learned few tricks to avoid having the mother of all tangles sadly are the ones I just seeing right now LOL but thanks guys, now there is a place to check and be prepared for this coiled packs of line.
Quote from: UKChris1 on January 18, 2020, 04:27:24 PM
Start with one end of the coil and if it seems to go well, carry on but if it gets knotted immediately, start the other end. One always goes better than the other - no idea why.
I saw what you mean here, when I was starting to see that 2 or 3 or 4 lines where coming together as a tangle I stop right there and took the other end of that coil and spooled it into a smaller empty spool until leaving only those 2 or 3 tangled lines, once there it was easy to untangled them with few passes over, under, under, etc, but them I had to tranfer the line that was saved into the smaller spool to the bigger spool to continue with the next 100m of coiled line, too much time consuming but it worked better than spending 2hrs or more untangling a big birdnest
Quote from: alantani on January 18, 2020, 05:22:58 PM
kinda hokey, but it works!!!!!!! ;D
>:( >:( kinda late amigo !!
but thanks Jefe, I assure you that if I bought that line in coiled packs again I will build me this gadget, pretty sure it will work because it was almost the same I was doing with my fingers (holding the line and only letting the inner circle to come out) while my wife was spooling the line into the big plastic spool, btw, it was nice way to spend few hours with my wife LOL, while we were working out those line coils we had time to spoke about kids, the house, co-workers rumors, life, universe, movies, each one bucket list, etc. etc ;D ;D
Could we sticky this for future generations? Bill
yes, that and move it to the rigging section.
Alex,
My point was that no matter the lines test coils are sold here as leader material and not for loading many yards onto a reel.
For loading line onto a reel a spool is the only way to go IMO, no matter what the test.
I have seen the bucket with water in it and a rod/dowel through the coil work. Yes most likely it will get wound to a point where you have to take the coil off the dowel and rework/manipulate the coil and then replace everything back.
In my mind it is better than you, your wife or one of your daughters standing there with the coil on their arm while someone else winds the reel until the inevitable happens, which is a cluster in the coil.
Like I said good luck.