The silver Daiwas have been impressive to me. Been looking for one of the gold series, and good reasonably priced ones that aren't scratched and scarred are rare. Finally found one in decent shape that wasn't a bidding war--the GS-13X.
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The handle and body cover have been removed.
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These reels have 3 ball bearings. Removing the one on the handle side.
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Removing the oscillating slider.
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Removing the screw that attaches the oscillating support to the axle.
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Removing axle and spool.
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This has been a clean reel this far along. Doubt if it was used very much. Takes a 14mm socket to remove the rotor nut.
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Removing the oscillating support.
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Separating the rotor from the body.
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A look at the anti-reverse assembly. To take out the pinion and ball bearing, a portion of this a/r assembly will be removed.
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Removing the drive gear and bearing.
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The anti-reverse spring and holder have been removed.
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Removing the anti-reverse ratchet.
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Removing the a/r claw, plate, and screw.
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Only things left that need to be removed to take out the pinion and bearing are the ball bearing retaining washer and two screws.
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The bail assembly was clean and functioning very well, the line roller turned, so I left all that intact. The drive gear, ball bearings, and pinion gear were all cleaned with lacquer thinner.
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Pinion gear, ball bearing, and anti-reverse assembly are back in place.
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Rotor has been reattached to the body.
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Setting the ball bearing on the non-handle back in place.
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Reinserting the main gear.
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Oscillating support goes back into place.
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Lubing the circular track the oscillating slider runs on.
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Oscillating slider going back into place.
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Oiling the axle.
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Axle has been reinserted, fastening it to the oscillating support.
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Reinserting the handle side ball bearing and finishing up.
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Reattaching the handle.
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These are nice reels, but this one doesn't feel as "free wheeling" as some of the Daiwa silvers even though it has two more ball bearings. It's smooth, but the handle is a bit more difficult to turn than the silvers. Maybe if I take out a shim or two on the handle side bearing it'll feel better. No real complaint, just some of the cheaper South Bends, Shakespeare and Compac Omoris, Heddons, and Zebcos I've serviced are more easily turning. This one has a better quality handle and spool assembly than the silvers. It weighs 11.5 ounces. Line capacity is 270 yds 6 lb mono, 200/8, 125/10, and 100/12. 8 lb. mono would be ideal.
.....already found someone who wants to buy this reel, might take them up on it but I want to fish it at least once before I decide.
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both pinion and main gear looks so good. i think these models are legend and nowadays new reels are not as good as this one. thank you for this great rebuild, sincerely.
sensei.......
Thank you for this,
I like what I see; especially that AR system, looks robust and well manufactured. I have a few of the silvers, I might look into one of these. Maybe thinner grease will let it spin easier?
The Man
Quote from: alantani on January 31, 2020, 06:51:57 PM
sensei.......
Thanks for the third star, Alan. ;D Got a couple DAM Quick, an Abu baitcaster, an old Pflueger direct drive baitcaster disguised as a Ted Williams, two more Daiwa spinners, and maybe even a couple of spincasters (which I know nothing about) to post in the near future.
Quote from: Ron Jones on January 31, 2020, 06:57:07 PM
Thank you for this,
I like what I see; especially that AR system, looks robust and well manufactured. I have a few of the silvers, I might look into one of these. Maybe thinner grease will let it spin easier?
The Man
Ron, I thought maybe taking it back apart and using replacing the Penn grease with Super Lube. I'm satisfied with the results right now but it does no harm to experiment. There is absolutely no feedback from the gears, definitely smooth, just a wee bit stiff.
Great tutorial as always, and congrats on the Sensei status!! 8)
"Sensei Chester"!
Great look at this Diawa. I have a GS-3(?) that I posted on the "B reels" thread. This one looks like a better reel. The only thing I like better on the older 3(?) was the spring loaded fold down handle. Mine's a keeper...
Quote from: alantani on January 31, 2020, 06:51:57 PM
sensei.......
Congrats Chester! You deserve it buddy, you put a lot of work into these posts. I really like the looks of that reel...it's another one that's hard to pick on. 8)
Great work, Chester, and congrats of the 3rd Sensei title!
Quote from: festus on January 31, 2020, 07:07:33 PM
Quote from: Ron Jones on January 31, 2020, 06:57:07 PM
Maybe thinner grease will let it spin easier?
Ron, I thought maybe taking it back apart and using replacing the Penn grease with Super Lube. I'm satisfied with the results right now but it does no harm to experiment. There is absolutely no feedback from the gears, definitely smooth, just a wee bit stiff.
Yes, Superlube will free it up a little bit. Also check "pinch points" like where the spool shaft(axle) passes through bearing areas, something may need burnished. I do something that saltwater folks frown on...but for freshwater fishing it doesn't cause me any grief at all. I don't grease the pinion and drive gear bearings. I use CorrosionX HD oil. The only set back is if one tiny grain of sand gets into the drive train you'll feel it. There is no "cushion effect" like you get with grease. I guess you could look at that like a warning light...the reel tells me when it needs service! 8)
Congratulations Sensei! Before you swap out the Penn grease try just adding oil to key points. This will thin out the grease and you may be happy until your next service. Sometimes I'll do this to an old neglected reel just to help assess it and decide how much effort I feel like putting into it. I've had some crappy old reels feel like butter after this, the extra benefit is that the oil softens the old grease and makes it easier to remove when I get around to a full service. I started doing this when I first started doing spinners. I was using Penn grease on spotless, clean reels and they were feeling a little stiffer than expected (Smooth but stiff) so I started adding 321 in some key locations and the reel would start spinning like it should.
Congratulations Chester! 8) You've really dove into these tutorials, especially the Asian models.
Thanks for the good look. Really diggin' that AR system; easy to operate and ahead of the gear train.
Go-go on the 3d star.
Frank
Great work Chester, thanks for taking us along, nice clear pics & good details, cheers Don.
Quote from: mo65 on January 31, 2020, 10:46:14 PM
Quote from: festus on January 31, 2020, 07:07:33 PM
Quote from: Ron Jones on January 31, 2020, 06:57:07 PM
Maybe thinner grease will let it spin easier?
Ron, I thought maybe taking it back apart and using replacing the Penn grease with Super Lube. I'm satisfied with the results right now but it does no harm to experiment. There is absolutely no feedback from the gears, definitely smooth, just a wee bit stiff.
Yes, Superlube will free it up a little bit. Also check "pinch points" like where the spool shaft(axle) passes through bearing areas, something may need burnished...
roll the spool shaft around on a sheet of glass, to make sure its not minutely warped
polish/burnish the spool shaft below cross-bar & inside the pinion, 'til shiny
LOVE all the X changes from GS-13: handle, internal bail, removeable steel "Cam kick plate"
is (45,46) all you need to pop out for manual bail?
a better line roller away from A-grade... B++ IMO
alloy main is grudgingly accepted, at this point ::)
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I have a GS13 that if it was a car, it would have about 900,000 miles on it! I use it as my bait catching reel. Much of the finish is gone and I made the bail all manual. The gears are a bit worn, but it just won't quit!
Another nice tutorial, how much they payin' you for 'em? ;D
Just a side not...
the GS-X Series was the precursor of the well knowing BG Series.
The funny part of them is, the BGs are the exactly same reels just with different painting (black) and a wood handle knob.
Only the BG90 was a new one (same build of a JDM-Reel) and comes later.