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Fishing Rods => Fishing Rods => Topic started by: nelz on July 26, 2020, 09:55:57 PM

Title: "Plate Type" Reel Seat Solution?
Post by: nelz on July 26, 2020, 09:55:57 PM
I've see these "plate type" reel seats popping up online alot lately, even on some high end custom rods. I've not seen one in person.

It looks like they'd be a good solution to the old uncushioned steel seats (that will tear up an aluminum reel foot) without having to remove the old seat. The plate seat has tabs just like a reel foot, so it looks like it can just be mounted on like a reel would?

Anybody have an opinion on using them for say a Jigmaster size reel?

Here is the Fuji NS 6 for example:
Title: Re: "Plate Type" Reel Seat Solution?
Post by: Gfish on July 26, 2020, 10:12:45 PM
Interesting. Gonna wait and see if anyone has experience with these, or even hearsay opinions.
Title: Re: "Plate Type" Reel Seat Solution?
Post by: Swami805 on July 26, 2020, 10:47:30 PM
I tried one and wrapped it on with light tarred seine cord and after a couple fish it worked loose. I've done another one this time with thread and epoxy but haven't used it yet but will soon. I'll report back. One thing is it doesn't screw onto the reel, the back hood slides up and a latch folds down the lock the hood in place so it's not infinitly adjustable to the reel foot. The reel I was using was in between clicks on the latch so it was a little loose.
These have been in use for a very long time
Title: Re: "Plate Type" Reel Seat Solution?
Post by: philaroman on July 26, 2020, 11:09:19 PM

I think old Japanese long, guided, telescopic rods used this type...  

you know, where the last section was so fat, there was no need for grips

and there were no regular light/medium seats w/ such huge ID


also, there's some info here: https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=30301.0
Title: Re: "Plate Type" Reel Seat Solution?
Post by: Swami805 on July 26, 2020, 11:12:06 PM
Here's a few pictures.  That latch clicks down on the ridges on the seat to lock the reel down. I had a Calcutta on it and the foot was kind of in between length on 2 ridges so it wasn't snug  I'll be using a Trinidad his time that fits perfectly
Title: Re: "Plate Type" Reel Seat Solution?
Post by: Rivverrat on July 26, 2020, 11:30:17 PM
 Some tape  these plates in place when used for lighter duty. to use one for a Jiggy would take mounting the plate on blank by wrapping the feet on both ends of plate with thread & finish with epoxy. Also I would not use this plate with a Jigmaster without reel clamp..... Then one has to ask why not a deckhand style build in the first place... Jeff
Title: Re: "Plate Type" Reel Seat Solution?
Post by: Swami805 on July 27, 2020, 12:13:11 AM
Good point, I'll be using a clamp with it. The up side is it's a fat blank and the clamp studs on a narrow reel dig into the cord handle to get around it or just won't fit at all. Just another gizmo to fool with, no trick taking it off if I don't like it
Title: Re: "Plate Type" Reel Seat Solution?
Post by: nelz on July 27, 2020, 12:41:16 AM
Ok, but can the plate seat be mounted onto a standard working old-school all-steel reel seat just like you would a reel? The point is to use the padded clamps of the plate type seat to prevent damage to the reel aluminum foot.
Title: Re: "Plate Type" Reel Seat Solution?
Post by: Swami805 on July 27, 2020, 01:08:50 AM
No they are too long. Here's one next to a #32 reel seat, the largest reel seat I know of.
Title: Re: "Plate Type" Reel Seat Solution?
Post by: nelz on July 27, 2020, 01:59:14 AM
Quote from: Swami805 on July 27, 2020, 01:08:50 AMNo they are too long. Here's one next to a #32 reel seat, the largest reel seat I know of.

Ah, good to know, thanks man.
Title: Re: "Plate Type" Reel Seat Solution?
Post by: philaroman on July 27, 2020, 02:18:46 AM
so, which Chinese ones are almost as good as Fuji, at a fraction of the cost?  ;D ;D ;D

I need a budget L/UL with good cushioning material & adjusting mechanism -- everything else is secondary
Title: Re: "Plate Type" Reel Seat Solution?
Post by: Swami805 on July 27, 2020, 02:24:48 AM
Couldn't tell you but the fuji's were only a double sawbuck I think. I really only bought a few to get me over the top for free shipping on an order of stuff, just curiousity.
Title: Re: "Plate Type" Reel Seat Solution?
Post by: oc1 on July 27, 2020, 04:39:49 AM
The beauty of those things is that you can get the reel on and off a deckhand-style rod without lashing, tape, hose clamps, or what have you.  And, you do not make a long-term commitment to the reel seat placement.   The trouble is they are a bit flimsy and you still have to lash, tape, or hose clamp them to the rod.  I'm not sure I'd trust wrapping thread unless it is a light rig.
-steve
Title: Re: "Plate Type" Reel Seat Solution?
Post by: Rivverrat on July 27, 2020, 05:19:59 AM
  Yup they are flimsy. Steve I wrapped both feet on the plate twice & finished with epoxy, also applied epoxy to bottom of plate prior to wrapping. For what it is I was pleased with the out come... Jeff
Title: Re: "Plate Type" Reel Seat Solution?
Post by: Tiddlerbasher on July 27, 2020, 10:35:34 AM
I used to use the fuji rod clamps on carp fishing rods and beach casters back in the 70/80s. I used to wrap all three wrapping points - the 'foot' ends and the depression about a third along the body. Wraps were made from a canvas sewing twine and varnished - No expoxy wraps back then ;)
They held up well - never had a failure. I also used very thin strips of rubber on slimmer footed reels like the Mitchell 300 (my goto carp reel of the day :)) The rubber strips helped prevent the 'in between clicks' problem when fitting the reel. The blanks (fibre glass only) were so thick that a simple rubber tube grip would suffice - fixed with rubber cement. Shrink wrap grips didn't exist and I couldn't be bothered with all the palaver of cork grips ;D
Title: Re: "Plate Type" Reel Seat Solution?
Post by: RC4600 on July 27, 2020, 11:48:50 AM
I have used these on 2 rods, ended taking them off both. I found they were flimsy, agree with Steve they are ok on light rods, but since I seem to overbuild everything I didn't trust them, I used epoxied wrapping thread so they had a solid mount but the reel wobbled around too much for my liking. +++ the reel sits pretty high on a casting rod set up. Depending on rig possible alternative would be these clamps. RC
Title: Re: "Plate Type" Reel Seat Solution?
Post by: oldmanjoe on July 27, 2020, 10:13:00 PM
  I have two sticks with the fuji plates, and i like them.   Nice clean look and plenty strong.
Title: Re: "Plate Type" Reel Seat Solution?
Post by: The Fishing Hobby on September 08, 2020, 03:23:53 AM
I can't answer the question about how they hold up for bigger setups, because I mostly build ultralight freshwater rods. I can show you one way to make a reel seat assembly of sorts using a plate style seat that may be useful in bigger setups, or at least give someone some ideas.
I put together this video a while back and the reel seat turned out really nice for my application. I don't see why a similar setup wouldn't be useful for a larger rod/reel situation.
https://youtu.be/vALgsPnQzd4
Title: Re: "Plate Type" Reel Seat Solution?
Post by: UKChris1 on September 08, 2020, 10:31:15 AM
Quote from: RC4600 on July 27, 2020, 11:48:50 AM
I have used these on 2 rods, ended taking them off both. I found they were flimsy, agree with Steve they are ok on light rods, but since I seem to overbuild everything I didn't trust them, I used epoxied wrapping thread so they had a solid mount but the reel wobbled around too much for my liking. +++ the reel sits pretty high on a casting rod set up. Depending on rig possible alternative would be these clamps. RC

Had them on a couple of beach casters for the UK - chucking 5oz leads. Took them off and replaced with the clamps above. The reels work loose in use if not really tight or the clip jambs solid when you want to get your reel off at the end of the day.
Chris