Reel Repair by Alan Tani

Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn Senator Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: milne on November 07, 2020, 07:11:23 AM

Title: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: milne on November 07, 2020, 07:11:23 AM
Hi All,   
         Finally got my Tiburon T4XN, ( Thanks Randy ), beefed up inside.
   Upgraded everything inside to S/S, double dogs and up graded Drags.
The Handle just does not cut it with my new narrowed senator.
So, show us what you have done as far as handles on yours ???

Secondly, I haven't quite sorted out this reels end use !!... I'm not really a braid person, but could be persuaded...
What is everyone using them for, or targeting ??  What type of Rod and line are you all using ???

I need inspiration    ;)

Col
Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: 54bullseye on November 07, 2020, 12:12:11 PM
Col
This is my line up.  T60XN - T4XN - T4N - T4 -    All double dogged and hot rodded by our friend Sal !!!! Haven't used any of them and probably won't. They are beautiful reels and not for sale !!  They are eye candy to me.     John Taylor
Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: mo65 on November 07, 2020, 12:32:26 PM
   I love these handles by the Boss...not sure if they are still around though.

       https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=12785.0 

   Another favorite is Ted's handle...but again...not sure if they are still available.

       https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=25112.0

  Great lookin' reels guys! 8)
Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: steelfish on November 07, 2020, 05:56:42 PM
this is mine, I havent done much to it, other than my special handle from Sal (very unique), octagon insert drag with custom cut drag washers (from Keta custom's), SS dog from Keta also, steel stock main drag and delrin washers under the main drag and at the top of the drag stack, other than that is pretty much stock internals, my next upgrade will be the SS Sleeve.

my build thread is here https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=24249.0
Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: JoseCuervo on November 07, 2020, 08:15:35 PM
Quote from: mo65 on November 07, 2020, 12:32:26 PM
  I love these handles by the Boss...not sure if they are still around though.

      https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=12785.0  

  Great lookin' reels guys! 8)

Yep, those are the way to go. I picked up two more of each Thursday from the source, but supplies through him may be limited-

Rob

Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: milne on November 07, 2020, 11:09:17 PM
Thanks for the replies guys.

John, your collection is real eye candy, beautiful !!  and done by the master himself.
 That in it self gives them the extra " special " factor,,, thankyou for sharing...

 Rob/Mo, Yep, that sort of handle really does look the goods,  I just never got excited with the standard look after the insides were completely tricked up. but those types of handles really look the goods guys.

Steelfish, I did look at your build thread, it was a good thread and did help me with mine.
  Just looking at the size of this narrowed senator. really does excite me, especially after doing the internals, it should be a real tank.

I have another 3 to do, a wide, and 2 standard sized Tiburon Senators, and of course my Squidder and a Jigmaster with an Accurate frame I got from Ted. All will be tricked up fully inside and there all going to be fished and be my go to rods on the boat.
Thanks for the inspiration on the handles Guys, perfect....

Who's actually fishing with a TX4N though ???
Would love to here from someone on what they have spooled up with, line capacity and what rod they have paired it with and what they use it for, it really intrigues me holding it in my hand, I'm picking it will be a beast of reel...... I'm excited   ;D

Col

Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: scrinch on November 08, 2020, 06:53:53 AM
Here are my XN's. I've got two T4XN's and one T6XN. I've used both for halibut and lingcod in Alaska, and I used one T4XN with live bait on the SOA this past month, but it didn't get bit. They all have standard guts except for steel sleeves and Bryan's drag upgrades. I use 100 lb braid with 60lb mono topshots. The round handles are from Alan Chui and the T6 handle is from Alan Tani.
Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: milne on November 08, 2020, 07:56:56 AM
Hi Scrinch, That is a mighty fine group of reels there, thankyou for showing them.
      And thanks for detailing what you use them for, awesome.
I kinda think, these little 4/0's probably have a myriad of uses, I'm figuring I may walk down the path of braid with a mono top shot.
I wouldn't have a use for it in our local bay, which is where 75% of my fishings is done while I live here in Melbourne, but I do head out from the bay here out wide, which opens up it's potential use. My regular travels, 5-6 times a year, sees me hitch up and travel anywhere from 4 hours to 12 hours, to get access to head out to the shelf on the tuna or Marlin with larger yellow tail or as we call them king fish are on offer, so these are the situations that these Tiburon Senators will come in to play, ( more if my other half will agree to a nice semi retirement further north  ;D ). So it is also for the future I am gearing up.
  Thanks for your info, No matter what I end up spooling them with, there going to be awesme fun to fish..

Col
Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: ReelFishingProblems on November 08, 2020, 12:00:03 PM
My T4XN is my favorite reel. It is the perfect example of everything this site brings to bear in the hot-ridding world of reels. I have used it a few times fishing for grouper and snapper in the Gulf of Mexico. I never caught anything large enough to put any test to it.

Nick
Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: milne on November 09, 2020, 05:36:43 AM
Nick, That's a ripper of a reel, wow...  Thank you for sharing....

We have some amazing tricked up Reels on this site, simply amazing.
And they will still be showing them in another 50 years, maybe our kids will be  ;D


Col
Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: steelfish on November 09, 2020, 07:00:07 PM
Quote from: milne on November 07, 2020, 11:09:17 PM
Who's actually fishing with a TX4N though ???
Would love to here from someone on what they have spooled up with, line capacity and what rod they have paired it with and what they use it for, it really intrigues me holding it in my hand, I'm picking it will be a beast of reel...... I'm excited   ;D
Col

hey Col,

I actually made the same question few years ago when the T4n1 kit aka T4XN tib kit was born (1 get t4xn kits have printed T4n1 after our Alan Tani Boss), check this thread

https://alantani.com/index.php?topic=23829.0

mine its alway with me when fishing from a boat


Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: Hardy Boy on November 09, 2020, 07:30:09 PM
I have fished mine for a few years now. I have double dogged it, SS sleeve, SS 4:1 gears, Maxed out lever and 5 stack DW. I loaded it with 80 lb braid. I have caught yellowtail at Cedros and all sorts of halibut, rockfish and ling cod here in BC. A capable reel.

Cheers:

Todd
Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: David Hall on November 09, 2020, 10:42:47 PM
Great picture Todd, love the wake behind a trolling Penn.
Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: thorhammer on November 10, 2020, 04:31:15 AM
Quote from: ReelFishingProblems on November 08, 2020, 12:00:03 PM
My T4XN is my favorite reel. It is the perfect example of everything this site brings to bear in the hot-ridding world of reels. I have used it a few times fishing for grouper and snapper in the Gulf of Mexico. I never caught anything large enough to put any test to it.

Nick


Nickie, thoroughly disappointed that you would have that single reel as an orphan. You're me guy, so I'll take it off your hands to join my thusly appointed  std width and yellowtail sporting the matching Lou grips.  He jeweled mine so I expect you will work the blade with Dremel prior to shipment. I will duly provide bottle of that peat jockwater ya'll sample, calling it angels breath or some crappola....
Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: Petah on November 10, 2020, 04:42:01 AM
Well, here's mine!!!!!
Don't really think I can do anything else to it!!!
It's a beast!!! I fish 50lb on a yo-yo set-up!

Peter
Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: Brewcrafter on November 10, 2020, 05:08:34 AM
Here's my family:
(https://alantani.com/gallery/33/18717_04_09_20_11_10_00.jpeg)
The "stock" one is just that - only modifications are a Bryan 5-stack and (not shown) one of Alan's cool Mach 5 handles.  It is loaded with 50# and is pretty much now exclusively a trolling setup here in SoCal.
The only parts on the T4N that are Penn are the ones you can see - everything else aftermarket with 4:1, all SS internals, DD Bridge, and Bryan's 7 stack.  Worked nicely on my 2019 June 8-day.
The T4XN was completed recently, and since I am pretty much homebound until the Covid thing get's figured out it's not spooled yet, but I am sure I will load it with 50# braid and use it for everything from bottom fishing to kelp paddy yellows and everything in between.  It pretty much has every modification that the T4N has, only in a smaller package.  Right now for a handle I scored a "custom" offset 24-349H handle from Randy at Vintage that I like the look and feel of (also longer than the stock 113H handle)
(https://alantani.com/gallery/33/18717_21_10_20_9_59_21.jpeg)
which I am hoping I can find another white 24-349H to modify for the T4N.  If your not hung up on aesthetics Alan's handle is Sweet (which is why it usually live on the troller) - john
Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: milne on November 10, 2020, 09:58:18 AM
  Guys,,,
  Thankyou Thankyou for your replies, awesome photo's of your reels.....
I followed all the links and took note of everyone's ideas on how to spool them, or what to spool them with and of course end use ideas..
It seems these T4XN's are a real versatile reel, with plenty of options to use them...

I'm going to go in the middle with 65lb braid with a 40-50lb mono top shot and just give this thing a good testing  !!!!
The more I play with it, the more I'm seeing it's versatility and liking the feel of this little tank.

Once again thanks all for your feedback,,, as mentioned I was hoping to get on a charter in about 3 weeks, with covid borders coming down in Aussie, we can now go interstate to a young lasses wedding that we thought we were going to miss. It's a beautiful seaside town with close access to reef and to the shelf, Just got to hope the boat is going when we are there, if not, the reel will have to wait till my boat project is back on the water,, but sure would like to give it a testing in a few weeks....

Regards

Col
Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: Brewcrafter on November 10, 2020, 04:49:31 PM
Good luck Col! - john
Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: steelfish on November 10, 2020, 07:41:07 PM
Quote from: milne on November 10, 2020, 09:58:18 AM
 
I'm going to go in the middle with 65lb braid with a 40-50lb mono top shot and just give this thing a good testing  !!!!

Col

the narrow spool will take a lot of 65# braid, the 1/3 of the bottom layers might never see the light ever.
I have 80# on mine and I think I could fit around 300yds which are a lot also.

Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: Swami805 on November 10, 2020, 08:36:48 PM
I have 80lb power pro on mine, don't know how much it took but it was a lot. It has all SS stuff inside and the handle is from maxed out.
I fished it twice but didn't hook anything with it
Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: milne on November 11, 2020, 02:21:14 AM
That's nice right there Sheridan,  Gee we have some nice versions of this reel here.

I shall do my best to fully test mine out soon  ;D

Thanks for sharing....  Hope all's well on your side of the ditch  ???


Col
Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: Maxed Out on November 11, 2020, 03:50:13 AM
Caution to all......this thread is loaded with porn and a bad influence on me....oops I meant us  :D

View at your own risk !!  ;D  ;D

-Ted
Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: steelfish on November 11, 2020, 06:29:23 PM
Quote from: Swami805 on November 10, 2020, 08:36:48 PM
I have 80lb power pro on mine, don't know how much it took but it was a lot. It has all SS stuff inside and the handle is from maxed out.
I fished it twice but didn't hook anything with it

hey compa Sheridan, how you doing it ?
I had my T4N1 reel also with a Ted Handle, those handles/knob assemblies are really comfy and perfect size, I just changed it for the one from Sal because of the unique look and its also really comfy to hold but slippery if you have wet hands, Ted's handle knob are great to use even with wet hands


Quote from: Maxed Out on November 11, 2020, 03:50:13 AM
Caution to all......this thread is loaded with porn and a bad influence on me....oops I meant us  :D
-Ted
do you mean bad influce BY you? great handles amigo, I have some fo yours on another 113h and 112h
Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: milne on November 12, 2020, 06:24:05 AM
Quote from: Maxed Out on November 11, 2020, 03:50:13 AM
Caution to all......this thread is loaded with porn and a bad influence on me....oops I meant us  :D

View at your own risk !!  ;D  ;D

-Ted

;D

Ted Sir, you wouldn't happen to have, tucked away in the depths of your collection of parts  ;D

One of those handle set up that Steel fish posted up by chance ????????
They look so comfortable and practical...

Col
Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: Maxed Out on November 12, 2020, 06:28:33 AM
Quote from: milne on November 12, 2020, 06:24:05 AM
Quote from: Maxed Out on November 11, 2020, 03:50:13 AM
Caution to all......this thread is loaded with porn and a bad influence on me....oops I meant us  :D

View at your own risk !!  ;D  ;D

-Ted

;D

Ted Sir, you wouldn't happen to have, tucked away in the depths of your collection of parts  ;D

One of those handle set up that Steel fish posted up by chance ????????
They look so comfortable and practical...

Col

Hello Col, someday I'd love to make more of these foam knobs. Working on it. Stay tuned this spring/summer

Ted
Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: milne on November 13, 2020, 06:29:46 AM
Now they would be worth waiting for Ted.......


Col
Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: Maxed Out on November 17, 2020, 07:23:49 PM
 found a couple of these kits hiding in my cupboard. No custom parts on hand, so I built a poor mans T4N1. Hope to fish it this summer.

Does anyone recognize this stock Penn blade/knob (no part #) ??
Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: steelfish on November 17, 2020, 07:46:59 PM
Quote from: Maxed Out on November 17, 2020, 07:23:49 PM
found a couple of these kits hiding in my cupboard. No custom parts on hand, so I built a poor mans T4N1. Hope to fish it this summer.

you need a Ted's custom handle on that one !!


nice cherry bomb
Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: Decker on November 17, 2020, 08:04:35 PM
Quote from: Maxed Out on November 17, 2020, 07:23:49 PM
Does anyone recognize this stock Penn blade/knob ??

Is it a Penn 24-300LD with a custom-bent blade?
Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: Swami805 on November 17, 2020, 08:09:10 PM
I believe it's off a baja special
Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: Maxed Out on November 17, 2020, 08:13:28 PM
 Nope, try again

It is 100% factory Penn including the offset. Hint, the reel it came on is a star drag

Sorry guys, it's blowing 30+ and dumping buckets and trying to lighten up my day.  ;) No doubt one of you guys will recognize it
Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: Decker on November 17, 2020, 08:21:43 PM
Quote from: Swami805 on November 17, 2020, 08:09:10 PM
I believe it's off a baja special

Believe that is correct, Sheldon.

It's a sweet handle, and a bit pricey.

Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: Swami805 on November 17, 2020, 08:29:59 PM
Mines a little beat up but it sure looks like it
Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: Maxed Out on November 17, 2020, 08:36:49 PM
 LOL, a little beat up is an understatement

 It is the same except the cutout for the gear sleeve on your Baja won't fit a 113h

This one is factory made to fit 113H sleeve
Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: RowdyW on November 17, 2020, 08:59:39 PM
Penn 113 MTL !
Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: Maxed Out on November 17, 2020, 09:59:35 PM
 One of these days I'll find something that will stump Rudy. That day isn't today  :D

Back on topic.... Another T4N1 with a familiar knob/blade this time
Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: RowdyW on November 18, 2020, 12:43:49 AM
That one was easy for me, I have a BNIB 113 MTL & I put one of those handles on a 349H about 5 years ago. Did I win a Penn International 50 VISX 2 speed ?  ???  ???   :D
Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: RowdyW on November 18, 2020, 12:47:44 AM
Ted, I think the frame is backwards unless it's a lefty.  ;D
Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: scrinch on November 18, 2020, 06:15:33 AM
Quote from: RowdyW on November 18, 2020, 12:47:44 AM
Ted, I think the frame is backwards unless it's a lefty.  ;D
The frame looks symmetrical to me, other than the labeling. When properly set up, is the "T4N1" supposed to point toward the fish or the fisherman?
Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: RowdyW on November 18, 2020, 06:34:37 AM
The brand name usually points toward the fish & the part no. points toward the fisherman. When the brand name is on the top you read it as you are holding the rod fishing or standing in a rod holder or rack. JMO, owner/builder can do as they wish.
Title: Re: show us your T4XN senators
Post by: scrinch on November 18, 2020, 07:34:17 PM
Thanks.