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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: sharkman on August 21, 2021, 01:33:03 PM

Title: Long Beach Help
Post by: sharkman on August 21, 2021, 01:33:03 PM
Need help identifying. Bought Long Beach at yard sale. The side plate has no numbers just Long Beach. The reel foot stamped 300 yards. Dark wood handle.
Title: Re: Long Beach Help
Post by: Rancanfish on August 21, 2021, 02:10:55 PM
I'm going to say that would be an early 60.  But I haven't paid attention to that series.  Someone more knowledgeable will have a definitive answer for you pretty quick.
Title: Re: Long Beach Help
Post by: Wompus Cat on August 21, 2021, 02:17:56 PM
That MAY be a Rare one like Ted was speaking of with that Rod Holder on it .
Can you measure across the side plates and post it ?
Title: Re: Long Beach Help
Post by: mo65 on August 21, 2021, 02:24:01 PM
   It's an early LB 65...like about '39. And yes...that is the harder to find clamping version of those early stands.  8)
Title: Re: Long Beach Help
Post by: Gfish on August 21, 2021, 06:36:44 PM
Does it have the waffle type clicker on the tail-plate? Was thinkin a 300 yd. reel, is that too big for a 60?
Title: Re: Long Beach Help
Post by: Wompus Cat on August 21, 2021, 06:51:52 PM
A 60 is 2.5 wide and a 285 is too .The 65 is @ 2 3/4
Title: Re: Long Beach Help
Post by: sharkman on August 21, 2021, 07:05:18 PM
Inside ring to inside ring is 2 1/4. It has 6 post like 66, 67, 68.
Title: Re: Long Beach Help
Post by: sharkman on August 22, 2021, 01:57:05 AM
I have been researching on internet. The reel looks very similar to 1939 Long Beach deluxe.
Title: Re: Long Beach Help
Post by: Deepennz on August 22, 2021, 03:52:35 AM
Hi There,
Penn used that logo style with no model number, on their 1939/1940 Long Beaches - The 1939 LB65 usually came with a drilled spool arbour and a waffle clicker - the 1940 LB65 usually came with a 'kiss' clicker and a post on the arbour. The photos don't show those details.
The Penn catalogues of 1939/40 show the LB65 without a drilled foot - still stamped with '300yds'. the reel foot on that reel is most commonly found on the LB de Lux 65 - perhaps someone added that foot 'aftermarket' to improve the reel.
Cheers
Martin
Title: Re: Long Beach Help
Post by: sharkman on August 22, 2021, 06:44:10 AM
It has solid post arbor and Jersey kiss clicker. Did the early 65 have six post?
Title: Re: Long Beach Help
Post by: Deepennz on August 22, 2021, 07:02:17 AM
Hi There,
My apologies - I had missed the 6 posts - hard to see from the photo's. The reel is a 1940 Long beach 66 - same width as the LB65 but a bigger head and side plate. The LB66 and 67 also had that same logo in 1939/40. The LB68 came along in 1942.
Like the '60, and '65, the 1939/40 LB66 and 67 also came with a plain, yardage stamped foot ie 400yds, 500yds. I still think that drilled foot is an add-on.
Cheers
Martin
Title: Re: Long Beach Help
Post by: mo65 on August 23, 2021, 04:23:10 PM
   Ahhh...six posts eh? That helps identify it! That's a cool reel! 8)
Title: Re: Long Beach Help
Post by: Gfish on August 23, 2021, 09:07:29 PM
Old-school cool.
I think the LB "deluxe" reels had 2 rings on each side-plate.

Title: Re: Long Beach Help
Post by: sharkman on August 24, 2021, 03:55:10 PM
Thanks everyone for replies. I tore the reel down last night. The spool has a small arbor and really thin sides. The main gear doesn't look like typical 66 gear. The gear looked steel and was shorter than normal Someone has been in the reel before but it has been a while because screws were hard to remove. I assume the original drag washer were the leatherish type material someone replaced them with the white plastic material usually seen in ss spinning reels.
Title: Re: Long Beach Help
Post by: Ron Jones on August 25, 2021, 01:24:45 AM
The 66 and black Senators up to the 4/0 have a 66 gear, which is the same diameter / ratio with the 60 it is just deeper and can hold more disks. I've opened up quite a few reels and found a 60 gear where a 66 should be.
The Man
Title: Re: Long Beach Help
Post by: sharkman on August 28, 2021, 04:37:06 PM
You find out a lot tearing and putting back together a reel. Originally I thought the gear was wrong. I had a spare 66 gear and found pinion. The 66 would not work the side plate has a funny step down. The gear that came with it the teeth pattern is more coarse than 60 and finer than 66. The side plate has tight tolerance have to use 60 drag washers.