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Title: Daiwa BG2500 bent handle attachment?
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on September 29, 2021, 02:39:05 PM
I noticed the handle looked off kilter on my BG2500, so I unscrewed the handle and the point where it attaches is bent. I'm not 1000% sure what I'm looking at as ive never cracked this one open (that's about to change!) But the part with the Philips head in the 2nd picture is off center. I may have dropped the reel and not realized it, or something similar, ir it may have always been like this and I'm only now noticing. Is it the main gear itself that's bent or is that some separate piece? I Can't tell from the parts diagram. The Philips head gives me hope its a separate piece.
Title: Re: Daiwa BG2500 bent handle attachment?
Post by: philaroman on September 29, 2021, 03:39:52 PM
guessing bent handle shaft...  have read that about new BG's: some complaints that
spool & handle shafts are BOTH thinner than they should be...  at least, in some reel-sizes
maybe, find a compatible handle from higher model & hope it's better steel
(or shorter handle arm, so there's less leverage to bend the shaft)
Title: Re: Daiwa BG2500 bent handle attachment?
Post by: oldmanjoe on September 29, 2021, 06:03:19 PM
 Need better pictures , and some of the handle side .       They don`t list a part number for #66 !!!   ???
Title: Re: Daiwa BG2500 bent handle attachment?
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on September 29, 2021, 06:46:11 PM
Quote from: oldmanjoe on September 29, 2021, 06:03:19 PM
Need better pictures , and some of the handle side .       They don`t list a part number for #66 !!!   ???
That is the handle side!
It's listed with #45 (the pinion) apparently sold as a set.
Title: Re: Daiwa BG2500 bent handle attachment?
Post by: oldmanjoe on September 29, 2021, 07:23:59 PM
Quote from: JasonGotaPenn on September 29, 2021, 06:46:11 PM
Quote from: oldmanjoe on September 29, 2021, 06:03:19 PM
Need better pictures , and some of the handle side .       They don`t list a part number for #66 !!!   ???
That is the handle side!
It's listed with #45 (the pinion) apparently sold as a set.
O Tay Howsabout a picture of the female side of the handle .. ::)  You know like were the threads are ..........    Wondering if the threads got pulled in the handle ?
Title: Re: Daiwa BG2500 bent handle attachment?
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on September 29, 2021, 07:40:08 PM
Was worried about you for a sec there. I guess that's what you meant. I will take one when I get home.

Daiwa says $24 shipped for a replacement. Gonna take it apart and verify one is needed before i order anything.
Title: Re: Daiwa BG2500 bent handle attachment?
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on September 29, 2021, 10:51:34 PM
The handle side. No visible bend
Title: Re: Daiwa BG2500 bent handle attachment?
Post by: oldmanjoe on September 29, 2021, 11:13:14 PM
 :)  Ok that rules out cross thread  and over torqued handle . I don`t see any pulled threads there ..
Whats with the Phillips screw looking thing in the gear ?  I would be surprised that it bent there ,or is the screw counter sunk in soft brass insert ? 
Title: Re: Daiwa BG2500 bent handle attachment?
Post by: ReelClean on September 29, 2021, 11:37:24 PM
Cross threaded or one thread "out" when fitting?  Hard to see from photo, but does the start of the thread look flattened?
Title: Re: Daiwa BG2500 bent handle attachment?
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on September 30, 2021, 01:35:39 AM
It's this (it's a gif but it seems you gotta click it)
Title: Re: Daiwa BG2500 bent handle attachment?
Post by: oldmanjoe on September 30, 2021, 01:55:10 AM
 It is strange that it bent there .    You would think that the bearing and the handle drive nut would have enough support there .
Title: Re: Daiwa BG2500 bent handle attachment?
Post by: foakes on September 30, 2021, 02:07:25 AM
Almost seems like either something is bent, not seated properly, or a bearing failure.

Best, Fred
Title: Re: Daiwa BG2500 bent handle attachment?
Post by: philaroman on September 30, 2021, 02:17:02 AM
have you opened it yet?
is it an alloy main with steel/brass tube as "axle"?
may have sheared/deformed at that attachment point
and the axle is no longer at perfect 90* to the plane of the gear
Title: Re: Daiwa BG2500 bent handle attachment?
Post by: Midway Tommy on September 30, 2021, 05:49:51 AM
Dangedest thing I've ever seen.   :o  Can't wait to find out what the culprit is.  ???
Title: Re: Daiwa BG2500 bent handle attachment?
Post by: ReelClean on September 30, 2021, 10:47:58 AM
Sure looks like the shaft was pressed into the main gear out of kilter, but you would have thought it would have been obvious to anyone paying attention on the assembly line? ???
Then again, if it were that far out it would be binding something awful in the bearing on that side, so maybe it must be bent outboard of the bearing.
Title: Re: Daiwa BG2500 bent handle attachment?
Post by: oldmanjoe on September 30, 2021, 01:37:05 PM
   The gear shaft is one piece and hollow  ....   
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSm551v_gBc&t=245s
Title: Re: Daiwa BG2500 bent handle attachment?
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on September 30, 2021, 02:20:29 PM
I cant say for sure that it hasn't always been like this. With the ball knob that I installed on day one, I may not have noticed it. Now that I'm aware i definitely feel it.

I'm just gonna order a new kit, and just be grumpy about it.

The daiwa SS line is officially superior to the BG product line in my opinion.
Title: Re: Daiwa BG2500 bent handle attachment?
Post by: foakes on September 30, 2021, 02:42:54 PM
Have you called Daiwa yet?

Generally, they have been very good — even when an apparent issue is not their fault.

They may just step up and take care of the issue.

Never know until you ask.

Best, Fred
Title: Re: Daiwa BG2500 bent handle attachment?
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on September 30, 2021, 02:57:58 PM
Quote from: foakes on September 30, 2021, 02:42:54 PM
Have you called Daiwa yet?

Generally, they have been very good — even when an apparent issue is not their fault.

They may just step up and take care of the issue.

Never know until you ask.

Best, Fred
I sent them pics, im waiting to hear back. Theres a daiwa warranty center here in Tampa a few miles from my office. I may just contact them and bring it in person, skip the whole shipping aspect. And maybe they even have the part in stock if it's not a warranty thing.

But if they do straighten this out (hey its a pun!) @ no cost, they will have fully redeemed themselves in my eyes.
Title: Re: Daiwa BG2500 bent handle attachment?
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on September 30, 2021, 10:14:50 PM
Ok so I'm likely just buying the part from the local daiwa service rep in Tampa. I feel like this should be a warranty covered issue but to claim that i need to find proof of purchase which is unlikely. I didn't ask the rep if the part is the same price as daiwa quoted it'll be about the price of the flat rate box I'd be sending my reel in if i were to seek the warranty. Also no 3 week + shipping delay to get my reel back. And I get to do it myself.
Title: Re: Daiwa BG2500 bent handle attachment?
Post by: Midway Tommy on September 30, 2021, 11:34:19 PM
After watching that video  ::buy a post 1990 Asian made spinning reel.  :-X) it just reinforced why I will never, in my lifetime, buy a post 1990 Asian made spinning reel, no matter what the brand.  :-X
Title: Re: Daiwa BG2500 bent handle attachment?
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on October 01, 2021, 05:02:48 PM
Quote from: Midway Tommy on September 30, 2021, 11:34:19 PM
After watching that video  ::buy a post 1990 Asian made spinning reel.  :-X) it just reinforced why I will never, in my lifetime, buy a post 1990 Asian made spinning reel, no matter what the brand.  :-X
Didn't watch the video yet. But there's definitely benefits to the classics, and there's good parts about modern stuff too. If I have to trade a bit of reliability for a bit more comfort of use, its a reasonable consideration. If my life or livelihood depended on the continued daily operation of this as my only piece of tackle I might feel differently. And in theory this thing is still fishable bent, its just not likely a good long term strategy. But I'll admit I like this reel less now than I did a week ago.

But as it stands in under a half hour I went and picked up the part for under $20.

The nice lady at the shop said that the BG line does not respond well to aftermarket knobs, and people tend to see their gears get shredded ahead of schedule. Well, i did an aftermarket knob within a few days of getting this reel. Related? Possibly. But this still seems more like blunt force trauma than overuse.

But the shop apparently also sells blanks. So they may see more of me.
Title: Re: Daiwa BG2500 bent handle attachment?
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on October 08, 2021, 03:30:42 AM
I feel like I can work on my SS700 in my sleep, but for some reason that BG was very difficult for me. I lost the bearing retainer spring when it shot off like a rocket. So that set me back a few days. Then I got it all back together and it felt too tight. So I opened it up didnt see a problem, put it back together, and now it feels great. So I guess problem solved?