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General Maintenance Tips => Tools and Lubricants => Topic started by: tincanary on October 31, 2021, 07:29:41 PM

Title: Mobil Velocite
Post by: tincanary on October 31, 2021, 07:29:41 PM
Has anybody tried it for reel bearings?  I see a seller on Amazon sells the No. 6 by the pint for a reasonable price.  Might have to try it out.  What do you all think?

https://www.mobil.com/en-us/industrial/pds/gl-xx-mobil-velocite-oil-no-series

https://www.amazon.com/VELOCITE-OIL-EXPEDITED-DELIVERY-AVAILABLE/dp/B009ZV2IPA/
Title: Re: Mobil Velocite
Post by: Dominick on October 31, 2021, 09:42:31 PM
It sure sounds like an ideal oil for fishing reels.  Dominick
Title: Re: Mobil Velocite
Post by: Gobi King on November 01, 2021, 01:44:57 PM
You can order this your local mobil distributor, you will probably save a bunch on shipping
Title: Re: Mobil Velocite
Post by: tincanary on November 01, 2021, 02:35:34 PM
Quote from: Gobi King on November 01, 2021, 01:44:57 PM
You can order this your local mobil distributor, you will probably save a bunch on shipping

Would you happen to know of any in our state?  I'm in SE Michigan.
Title: Re: Mobil Velocite
Post by: Gobi King on November 01, 2021, 02:45:21 PM
yeah, I will post the link to look it, mine is right across costco, couple of miles from my house, Vesco oil or Van Mannen???, looking at their name and  office you would NEVER know they are Mobil distributors,

I bought a case of Mobil 1 gear oil and case of Mobil 1 filters for my diesel.

Vesco Oil Corporation
16055 W 12 Mile Road
Southfield
, MI
USA
48076
0

find their local phone and call them, the front desk staff will take your order over the phone and in a couple of days you can pick it up.
Title: Re: Mobil Velocite
Post by: jurelometer on November 01, 2021, 09:07:59 PM
Petroleum based, not a synthetic.  SDS looks not terrible, but not stuff that I would want to get on my skin daily.

When you use a  thinner oil, you will need to consider if it  will migrate into your fiber drag washers, which can make the drag sticky if the fiber washers are not lubed, or lubed with a grease that is not compatible with the oil.   A dry film lubricant like TSI will not migrate, but will wear out faster than an oil will break down, but the thinner the oil, the less likely it is going to stay where it is needed for an extended length of time or if subjected to high RPMs.

Generally speaking, the thinner the lubricant, the less time it is going to stay where you want it, and the more likely it is intended to be used in situations where the parts are immersed in the lubricant, or it is being continuously replenished/ recirculated.  I could be wrong, but I thought that thinner oils are designed to better pass  through tighter clearances, to both lubricate and carry away heat.  Sticking to surfaces is actually undesirable in these products.

Hard to say if this a good choice without knowing what is being lubricated.  As noted on the recent thread on gear oil, the specific product does not matter too much.  I think that there is a diminishing return on thinner and thinner oils, unless there is easy access and a willingness to more frequently replenish.  Once the oil viscosity required gets too low, it is time to consider switching  to film type lubricants.   

My personal preference is grease wherever possible, use the same grease for drag and lubrication, and film type lubricants for casting ball bearings.    Lighter oil used only for level wind worms.  But I am just a hobbyist, not a reel repair pro, and I don't mess much with reels toward the ultralight end of the spectrum.   YMMV.

-J
Title: Re: Mobil Velocite
Post by: tincanary on November 02, 2021, 11:04:12 AM
Quote from: Gobi King on November 01, 2021, 02:45:21 PM
yeah, I will post the link to look it, mine is right across costco, couple of miles from my house, Vesco oil or Van Mannen???, looking at their name and  office you would NEVER know they are Mobil distributors,

I bought a case of Mobil 1 gear oil and case of Mobil 1 filters for my diesel.

Vesco Oil Corporation
16055 W 12 Mile Road
Southfield
, MI
USA
48076
0

find their local phone and call them, the front desk staff will take your order over the phone and in a couple of days you can pick it up.

Small world, you're pretty much down the road from me.  I'm in Warren, in the sub behind the Randazzos.
Title: Re: Mobil Velocite
Post by: Gobi King on November 02, 2021, 11:15:38 AM
well I am 140miles west in Grand Rapids :-)
that is the vesco close to you, mine is on 28th here in GR.

We should meet up and fish St Clair's, they are killing the perch and walleye there now
Title: Re: Mobil Velocite
Post by: tincanary on November 02, 2021, 11:33:02 AM
Quote from: Gobi King on November 02, 2021, 11:15:38 AM
well I am 140miles west in Grand Rapids :-)
that is the vesco close to you, mine is on 28th here in GR.

We should meet up and fish St Clair's, they are killing the perch and walleye there now


I'm game.  We kill the perch all summer long in the flats at the mouth of the St. Clair River, over by Harsens Island.  The water is shallow, typically 4' to 6', but they're always holed up in there.  Some monster gills too.  Me and a friend are out there often, he's usually swinging a fly rod and I'm throwing small paddle tails.
Title: Re: Mobil Velocite
Post by: Gobi King on November 02, 2021, 11:35:26 AM
Quote from: jurelometer on November 01, 2021, 09:07:59 PM
Petroleum based, not a synthetic.  SDS looks not terrible, but not stuff that I would want to get on my skin daily.

When you use a  thinner oil, you will need to consider if it  will migrate into your fiber drag washers, which can make the drag sticky if the fiber washers are not lubed, or lubed with a grease that is not compatible with the oil.   A dry film lubricant like TSI will not migrate, but will wear out faster than an oil will break down, but the thinner the oil, the less likely it is going to stay where it is needed for an extended length of time or if subjected to high RPMs.

Generally speaking, the thinner the lubricant, the less time it is going to stay where you want it, and the more likely it is intended to be used in situations where the parts are immersed in the lubricant, or it is being continuously replenished/ recirculated.  I could be wrong, but I thought that thinner oils are designed to better pass  through tighter clearances, to both lubricate and carry away heat.  Sticking to surfaces is actually undesirable in these products.

Hard to say if this a good choice without knowing what is being lubricated.  As noted on the recent thread on gear oil, the specific product does not matter too much.  I think that there is a diminishing return on thinner and thinner oils, unless there is easy access and a willingness to more frequently replenish.  Once the oil viscosity required gets too low, it is time to consider switching  to film type lubricants.   

My personal preference is grease wherever possible, use the same grease for drag and lubrication, and film type lubricants for casting ball bearings.    Lighter oil used only for level wind worms.  But I am just a hobbyist, not a reel repair pro, and I don't mess much with reels toward the ultralight end of the spectrum.   YMMV.

-J

Danke, dino base makes it no go for moi,
Title: Re: Mobil Velocite
Post by: Gobi King on November 02, 2021, 11:41:24 AM
Quote from: tincanary on November 02, 2021, 11:33:02 AM
Quote from: Gobi King on November 02, 2021, 11:15:38 AM
well I am 140miles west in Grand Rapids :-)
that is the vesco close to you, mine is on 28th here in GR.

We should meet up and fish St Clair's, they are killing the perch and walleye there now


I'm game.  We kill the perch all summer long in the flats at the mouth of the St. Clair River, over by Harsens Island.  The water is shallow, typically 4' to 6', but they're always holed up in there.  Some monster gills too.  Me and a friend are out there often, he's usually swinging a fly rod and I'm throwing small paddle tails.

Nice, pm sent.
Title: Re: Mobil Velocite
Post by: Brewcrafter on November 03, 2021, 05:43:05 AM
If Shibley and Tincanary are joining forces on the prowl, I wish you guys great results and looking forward to hearing about it! - john