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Title: Never seen before handle
Post by: KippN it REEL on May 08, 2022, 06:31:45 PM
First post. 
Just recieved a mystery box of reels.  Inside was a penn long beach 60.  No big deal but.... ive never seen a handle like this before.  Aluminum torpedo, looks factory made.  Any ideas?
Title: Re: Never seen before handle
Post by: alantani on May 08, 2022, 06:45:51 PM
yup, this is a first for me.  welcome!!!!!
Title: Re: Never seen before handle
Post by: Dominick on May 08, 2022, 06:52:55 PM
Welcome. A first for me also.  Dominick
Title: Re: Never seen before handle
Post by: Wompus Cat on May 08, 2022, 07:08:02 PM
Yup. Welcome

Your handle looks like some one cast over the old Knob with lead or something. Can you post a pic of the back side of it
Title: Re: Never seen before handle
Post by: 1badf350 on May 08, 2022, 07:25:29 PM
It may be factory made, but not at the Penn factory. Looks like someone put a non-Penn handle on that reel. Besides the knob, it is too long, and the counterweight structure is not Penn.
Title: Re: Never seen before handle
Post by: KippN it REEL on May 08, 2022, 11:45:12 PM
It resembles the same profile of a penn handle, minus the knob of course.  But its longer than ive seen too.  And the hole that mounts on the sleeve is sort of chewed up.  Might have been cut out to fit. And the counterweight looks like its one piece to the handle.  Penns have a dimple on the back.
Title: Re: Never seen before handle
Post by: JasonGotaProblem on May 09, 2022, 03:20:58 AM
If I was a betting man I'd wager this reel once belonged to a machinist and this was a DIY project. Pretty cool.
Title: Re: Never seen before handle
Post by: Maxed Out on May 09, 2022, 03:55:48 AM
 The "4 stack" counterbalance is definitely not a penn product. Someone did a very nice job of mimicking a penn handle. I have seen a few of these pointy aluminum knobs on what looks to be a penn handle, but upon closer inspection, it turned out they were not Penn at all. If it's factory made, it is definitely not typical. I do notice no set screw hole, and also the backside of blade on counterweight appears attached without a thru hole, and rivet that holds on the knob shaft is definitely not a Penn product, but not ruling out someone at Penn making it for himself. Either way its a cool piece !!

 This one is on a long beach 68. 3 of these were made by a penn factory machinist at the factory in the early 50's. Nothing here would make you think otherwise. Myself and another collector bought all 3. The seller was the son of the guy that made them. He said his dad worked in the machine shop at Penn late 40's thru early 50's. He said his dad made these and brought them home one day and put them in "the junk drawer", and that's where they stayed for over 60 years. All 3 were made just as you see this one. approximate length is 8"

 Mo said it best about this handle. "It's so long it has 2 zip codes"
Title: Re: Never seen before handle
Post by: KippN it REEL on May 09, 2022, 11:47:00 AM
Great story. Helps with the mystery. 8" handle! Wow.

The one i acquired is actually very well made.  Why im thinking factory. Its definitely worn from use but still good.  Maybe ocean city, dolphin, etc.  And the weight of the knob is almost the same as the counterweight.  Its very well balanced. Feels great reeling.
Title: Re: Never seen before handle
Post by: Wompus Cat on May 09, 2022, 01:01:16 PM
If you Blow the Picture way up you can clearly see it has been made to fit the Penn Sleeve by filing  inside the inside of the Hole.


and Ted I only see 3 rings on the Counter Balance plus see NO signs of how the Balance is attached must less How they Peened the Knob to the bar .
May have come off an Old Coffee Grinder and almost Sure it is NOT OCEAN CITY. 
Title: Re: Never seen before handle
Post by: Swami805 on May 09, 2022, 02:59:36 PM
A few years ago I posted a handle with an aluminum knob, I think it was on a 155 or something small. Couldn't find the old post but I'll see if I can scrounge up the handle
Title: Re: Never seen before handle
Post by: KippN it REEL on May 09, 2022, 10:32:39 PM
And im not a collector. I do repairs and service as a side business. I put all my profits in my kids bank account.  Hes 8 months old already!

So if any collectors would like to purchase the handle......

Remember.... its super rare and probably worth millions
Title: Re: Never seen before handle
Post by: Bill B on May 09, 2022, 10:38:54 PM
I'll take that handle, just waiting on the prince from Nyrobi to deposit the funds into my bank account 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: Never seen before handle
Post by: KippN it REEL on May 11, 2022, 01:00:20 AM
Hahaha. 

But seriously, if anyone has an interest, let me know.

Ill even make a trade.  I need a penn 9/0 bridge if anyone has one lying around. 
Title: Re: Never seen before handle
Post by: KippN it REEL on May 13, 2022, 01:29:55 AM
Ok.  I found where its from.  The reel on the right is a horrocks ibbotson 250. 
Title: Re: Never seen before handle
Post by: Wompus Cat on May 13, 2022, 01:54:31 AM
Quote from: KippN it REEL on May 13, 2022, 01:29:55 AMOk.  I found where its from.  The reel on the right is a horrocks ibbotson 250. 

The Knob MIGHT be off an HI but the blade you have  is still a mystery.
Thanks for posting the pix.
Do you own the Reels pictured ?
The Reel on the left appears to be an OCEAN KING or Maybe a Wilson .
Title: Re: Never seen before handle
Post by: KippN it REEL on May 13, 2022, 02:22:53 AM
No, the picture is from a guy i buy parts from.  Just a coincidence he sent that pic. 
Title: Re: Never seen before handle
Post by: Wompus Cat on May 13, 2022, 12:50:25 PM
Quote from: KippN it REEL on May 13, 2022, 02:22:53 AMNo, the picture is from a guy i buy parts from.  Just a coincidence he sent that pic. 

Next chance ya get would you inquire as to his desire in selling the Reel on the Left .I need it for parts.
Thanks
Title: Re: Never seen before handle
Post by: KippN it REEL on May 13, 2022, 05:06:01 PM
I actually might have one.  Hang tight. Let me check "the horde"
Title: Re: Never seen before handle
Post by: KippN it REEL on May 14, 2022, 07:23:07 AM
The reel in pic is an A.H. fox and gun co.