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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn Senator Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: TxYakAngler on June 06, 2022, 11:11:53 PM

Title: 113 for LBSF
Post by: TxYakAngler on June 06, 2022, 11:11:53 PM
I have an old 113 that I'm wanting to get my hands into to. I'm trying to find stainless bridge and gear sleeve for it and am wondering if the 113h will work. I am wanting to use this for short drops land based shark fishing in Texas. Any help is appreciated! Picture is for attention and my end goal. 6842BCEB-6103-4984-9D94-EE65413F0F47.jpeg
Title: Re: 113 for LBSF
Post by: Wompus Cat on June 06, 2022, 11:29:43 PM
Welcome to the Forum from another Texan .

The 113 plain jane has a smaller Bridge and smaller Bridge plate plus  no Bearings . The H's  main gear is larger thus the drop down on the business end side plate  and will not just interchange  . Not saying YOU CAINT do it as I have put a Fat Block Chevy Engine  in a Nash Metropolitan .   :d
Best to get you a 113 H and go through it .
Title: Re: 113 for LBSF
Post by: TxYakAngler on June 07, 2022, 12:13:43 AM
Quote from: Wompus Cat on June 06, 2022, 11:29:43 PMWelcome to the Forum from another Texan .

The 113 plain jane has a smaller Bridge and smaller Bridge plate plus  no Bearings . The H's  main gear is larger thus the drop down on the business end side plate  and will not just interchange  . Not saying YOU CAINT do it as I have put a Fat Block Chevy Engine  in a Nash Metropolitan .   :d
Best to get you a 113 H and go through it .



Understood! Thank you for the advice!
Title: Re: 113 for LBSF
Post by: nelz on June 07, 2022, 02:32:28 AM
Hello? White sideplaes? Did anybody notice THAT? Maybe it's just me, but that's the fist time I've ever seen or heard of it.

And yeah, welcome TxYak, and no, the 113H parts won't fit a 113.
Title: Re: 113 for LBSF
Post by: Bill B on June 07, 2022, 03:47:31 AM
Yeah, I was thinking Mitchell at first, but upon closer look it's a Penn...so what's the story we HAVE to know.  Bill
Title: Re: 113 for LBSF
Post by: TxYakAngler on June 07, 2022, 04:38:04 AM
Quote from: Bill B on June 07, 2022, 03:47:31 AMYeah, I was thinking Mitchell at first, but upon closer look it's a Penn...so what's the story we HAVE to know.  Bill


That is not the reel currently. It is just what I'm going to be doing with the reel. I'm going to get the side plates cerakoted white. From what y'all are telling me I'm gonna need to buy a 113h. I am currently watching a few on eBay!
Title: Re: 113 for LBSF
Post by: nelz on June 07, 2022, 04:49:40 AM
For sharkin', a 113H is way better with its much bigger drag and robust gears.
Title: Re: 113 for LBSF
Post by: Wompus Cat on June 07, 2022, 11:59:45 AM
I  have seen a diff color on Penns
Yep itsa Blue (https://oldreelcollectors.com/gallery/1-140821164812-7901965.jpeg)

Blue 2 (https://oldreelcollectors.com/gallery/1-140821164753-786894.jpeg)
Title: Re: 113 for LBSF
Post by: Bill B on June 07, 2022, 05:04:41 PM
You might want to look at the 114H, larger in every way.  Usually not much more than the 113H.  Bill
Title: Re: 113 for LBSF
Post by: Maxed Out on June 07, 2022, 08:35:04 PM
 First off, (no offense intended) your white 113 must be an imposter or a paint job. The 113 only came in black. Also, the 113 has top harness lugs. Your white reel doesn't even have cutouts on the inner rings for any lugs. The gear housing is not Penn shape and no grease port on the housing.

 If you want to build the same reel, you'd hafta get a set of early outer rings to use as inner rings and put a lug blank under where lug should be. It's definitely doable

 Ted
Title: Re: 113 for LBSF
Post by: TxYakAngler on June 08, 2022, 04:41:36 AM
Quote from: Maxed Out on June 07, 2022, 08:35:04 PMFirst off, (no offense intended) your white 113 must be an imposter or a paint job. The 113 only came in black. Also, the 113 has top harness lugs. Your white reel doesn't even have cutouts on the inner rings for any lugs.

 If you want to build the same reel, you'd hafta get a set of early outer rings to use as inner rings and put a lug blank under where lug should be. It's definitely doable

 Ted

The picture was only for attention. That is what it will look like when I am finished. I just ordered a 113h and will be dropping off the side plates on Monday to be cerakoted white.
Title: Re: 113 for LBSF
Post by: TxYakAngler on June 08, 2022, 04:43:24 AM
Quote from: Bill B on June 07, 2022, 05:04:41 PMYou might want to look at the 114H, larger in every way.  Usually not much more than the 113H.  Bill

I have a 114h and it is working perfectly but I will be upgrading it soon.
Title: Re: 113 for LBSF
Post by: nelz on June 08, 2022, 01:57:20 PM
Quote from: TxYakAngler on June 08, 2022, 04:41:36 AMI just ordered a 113h and will be dropping off the side plates on Monday to be cerakoted white.

Does the cerakote crack when you tighten down the screws?
Title: Re: 113 for LBSF
Post by: TxYakAngler on June 09, 2022, 02:37:58 AM
Quote from: nelz on June 08, 2022, 01:57:20 PM
Quote from: TxYakAngler on June 08, 2022, 04:41:36 AMI just ordered a 113h and will be dropping off the side plates on Monday to be cerakoted white.

Does the cerakote crack when you tighten down the screws?

I'm not sure. I'll find out soon enough though