I was putting together some shark rig leaders for this weekend, and had a random idea and ran with it. Nothing new under the sun I'm sure I did not invent it but I dont know what it would be called.
It's 2 8/0 circle hooks crimped facing each other on 60# stainless with 2 different colors of silver thread plus red and green and stiff white synth hair sorta around the outside. Above that is a 4oz weight and a crimped on swivel. The tag ends from the crimps were left long and tucked into the weight.
A part of me wants to do another skirt of thread attached above the weight. But that might be too much.
I have no idea if it'll work well. Only one way to find out. Bet it casts well.
I like the idea. Are you thinking of fishing chuck bait, whole bait, or just as is?
I think the way circles work, 2 together might get in each other's way
the way you have it, I'd want 2 J-hooks positioned opposite each other
(wrapped w/ copper rigging wire... whipped... however temp/perm you want)
OR
1 ringed circle w/ really good swivel (BB... whatever... as long as it rotates freely AND strong)
EDIT: bead-chain swivel... that's the one I forgot,
that might be better than BB or regular crane... if available shark-strength
I'm sure somebody, somewhere has tried 2 circles on 1 ring & discarded the idea
I'm not highly experienced in saltwater techniques but I have to agree with Phil on this one. It seems to me that the hooks will most likely work against each other and defeat the circle hook purpose.
Quote from: philaroman on September 01, 2022, 05:04:53 PMI think the way circles work, 2 together might get in each other's way
the way you have it, I'd want 2 J-hooks positioned opposite each other
I think these are what is typically built to stabilize "hook conflict".
Thanks for the input guys. There's a reason I posted it as "wild hare idea" not "brilliant idea you should all copy without question"
I suspect I'll make a round 2 with J hooks. But I'm still gonna give this version a try. For science!
Are you fishing in the surf or bay?
4oz is not very heavy.
look around at the tandem rigs of the type that Alex posted
much variety for ideas & prices that encourage DIY ;)
Eh, fish it and see if it works. Proof is in the pudding, the fish don't know the rules.
Version 2.0
Gamakatsu 6/0 J hooks back to back
Red thread tail by the hook
Silver gray and a bit of gold on the wings.
But hopefully not long enough to foul up the hook.
3oz weight.
Still no clue what I'm doing here. But its fun.
Double hook sturgeon rig.
Why not just use a standard double hook? ???
Quote from: Midway Tommy on September 30, 2022, 04:34:50 PMWhy not just use a standard double hook? ???
I cant answer that with anything other than personal opinion. I've never used a double hook but my all consuming hatred of treble hooks has led me to assume I'd hate those too.
Plus this is me just messing around with ideas. I'll certainly try to fish it but I can't claim my idea is based on anything established.
Quote from: JasonGotaProblem on September 30, 2022, 05:12:44 AMVersion 2.0
Gamakatsu 6/0 J hooks back to back
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Still no clue what I'm doing here. But its fun.
This got eaten at skyway. I had it on a wire leader casting it out with a surf rod and cranking in as fast as I could. Got hit HARD and pulled into the rocks on like the 5th cast. I'm gonna make another.
Does it need to be on wire? Try tieing the same thing with assist cord and run the hooks at slightly different heights, in theory more chances if the fish bites elsewhere on the jig-thing.
I'm with Boon. Stagger the hooks, one above the other. Put each on a loop so they can swing free. The top hook will go through the head of the bait. The lower hook will go through the bait closer to the tail. The distance between hooks will depend on the size of the bait. Use larger hooks staggered farther apart for a larger mullet.
This post interests me on several levels. I'm not a shark fisherman, but the topic heading caught my interest.
Wild Hare - as in a rascally rabbit. I always thought it was Wild Hair - as in a hair brained idea. Both make sense if you think about it.
Any entymologists care to comment?
Yeah, things are a little slow this week.
Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
GA Mike
Quote from: Wally15 on November 22, 2022, 11:35:02 AMThis post interests me on several levels. I'm not a shark fisherman, but the topic heading caught my interest.
Wild Hare - as in a rascally rabbit. I always thought it was Wild Hair - as in a hair brained idea. Both make sense if you think about it.
Any entymologists care to comment?
Yeah, things are a little slow this week.
Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
GA Mike
Figures of speech can be wild. For example the origin of the phrase is that one might think wild or crazy thoughts while a rabbit is lodged up in one's butthole.
Re: staggered hooks, I'm on board with the idea. I'll do that next time. However I have no idea how to space them based on the target as I have no specific target in mind.
Quote from: JasonGotaProblem on November 22, 2022, 11:52:42 AMI have no idea how to space them based on the target as I have no specific target in mind.
You space them based on the size of the bait.
try blade/clevis in front
Quote from: Wally15 on November 22, 2022, 11:35:02 AMAny entymologists care to comment?
Etymologically speaking, entomology is the study of insects, but etymology is the study of words, although it is not uncommon to see these combined into entymology, which I will claim is the study of the naming of insects :d
Quote from: boon on November 23, 2022, 07:41:26 PMQuote from: Wally15 on November 22, 2022, 11:35:02 AMAny entymologists care to comment?
Etymologically speaking, entomology is the study of insects, but etymology is the study of words, although it is not uncommon to see these combined into entymology, which I will claim is the study of the naming of insects :d
I should get half credit for being close. Unless it's a spelling bee. which is a flying insect. ;D
Mike