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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Newell Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: nelz on November 15, 2022, 07:02:10 PM

Title: 338 to 322 Conversion
Post by: nelz on November 15, 2022, 07:02:10 PM
I have a Newell P338F that I would like to narrow down to a 322 size. I'm hoping if I find a frame and spool in 322 size that it would do the trick? Hoping to save some money using the existing P338F plates.

However, would the series number matter? Does it need to be from a P322F only?

*** Also willing to trade my 338 for a 322 size one.
Title: Re: 338 to 322 Conversion
Post by: Swami805 on November 15, 2022, 07:58:34 PM
Should be a straight swap, base bars and spool and you're good to go. Won't work with long screw base and bars though so make sure those parts are threaded
You could use a Tiburon or accurate frame for a Penn 501 too
Title: Re: 338 to 322 Conversion
Post by: PacRat on November 15, 2022, 08:01:29 PM
I've done this twice. One is a straight-up Franken-Newell with the shift lever coming out of a Blackie with mods to both the lever and side-plate. The other was cobbled together out of a pile of spare parts so it's hard to say what series any of the parts came from except the side-plates. Seems like there may have been some minor bearing shimming required.

Hell, we're the OHANA...just go for it and you have lots of help if thing get tricky.
Title: Re: 338 to 322 Conversion
Post by: nelz on November 15, 2022, 08:14:06 PM
Quote from: Swami805 on November 15, 2022, 07:58:34 PMYou could use a Tiburon or accurate frame for a Penn 501 too

So Penn 501 bars and base would work too? I would just need any Newell 322 spool then?

Thanks  Pac and Swami
Title: Re: 338 to 322 Conversion
Post by: Swami805 on November 15, 2022, 08:40:00 PM
Yes Penn posts and base should work
Title: Re: 338 to 322 Conversion
Post by: nelz on November 15, 2022, 09:16:07 PM
You know, what's funny is I have a beautiful fully functional Penn 501 I can use instead. However, after resurrecting this flea market fixer-upper Newell with a little "Laulima" from the Ohana, and fishing it, I fell in love with it.

The weight, speedy lever, and power/gear ratio are perfect for what I use it for. Now just gotta make it narrower!  :fish

Title: Re: 338 to 322 Conversion
Post by: PacRat on November 15, 2022, 09:40:29 PM
I just found my photos for the Franken-Newell. The side-plates are P338F. No telling exactly what the rest of this is. I put it together before getting to know you guys so I used any parts I had on hand.

(https://alantani.com/gallery/37/14769-151122212148-374491286.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/37/14769-151122212103-37410174.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/37/14769-151122212131-37436346.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/37/14769-151122212125-374302052.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/37/14769-151122212113-374211092.jpeg)

(https://alantani.com/gallery/37/14769-151122212138-374411924.jpeg)
Title: Re: 338 to 322 Conversion
Post by: nelz on November 15, 2022, 09:44:52 PM
Sweet!
Title: Re: 338 to 322 Conversion
Post by: Vintage Offshore Tackle on November 15, 2022, 10:34:14 PM
I have a brand new set of short screw graphite 322 bars, base and clamp and a good used 300C aluminum 322 spool that will work. Would that be of interest?
Title: Re: 338 to 322 Conversion
Post by: nelz on November 15, 2022, 10:47:40 PM
Quote from: Vintage Offshore Tackle on November 15, 2022, 10:34:14 PMWould that be of interest?

PM sent...

Title: Re: 338 to 322 Conversion
Post by: Swami805 on November 15, 2022, 10:54:02 PM
Mr PackRat, 2 dogs in a 300 series, don't see that everyday. Did you add the dog or get the bridge plate from a 440?  Nice reel!
Title: Re: 338 to 322 Conversion
Post by: PacRat on November 16, 2022, 02:46:42 AM
Quote from: Swami805 on November 15, 2022, 10:54:02 PMMr PackRat, 2 dogs in a 300 series, don't see that everyday. Did you add the dog or get the bridge plate from a 440?  Nice reel!

I did it myself. It really hasn't been fully tested by a really big fish yet. I just wanted to see if I could do it. I think the springs are the weak link and I'm concerned they might rust. The posts for the dogs are threaded then fixed in place with JB Weld. I also need to see how the JB Weld is standing up to grease.
Title: Re: 338 to 322 Conversion
Post by: Bryan Young on November 17, 2022, 07:42:14 AM
I have a few used kits from my friends in Hawaii...as they tend to widen the reels instead of narrowing them.
Title: Re: 338 to 322 Conversion
Post by: nelz on November 19, 2022, 03:27:19 AM
Quote from: Bryan Young on November 17, 2022, 07:42:14 AMI have a few used kits from my friends in Hawaii...as they tend to widen the reels instead of narrowing them.

Bryan, I'm definitely interested.
Title: Re: 338 to 322 Conversion
Post by: Bryan Young on November 20, 2022, 07:30:44 AM
Let me take some photos