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Spinning Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Shakespeare => Topic started by: Paul Roberts on December 14, 2022, 01:45:44 AM

Title: A Couple of Serious 2062's
Post by: Paul Roberts on December 14, 2022, 01:45:44 AM
Made some vintage spinning reels aesthetically a bit more to my liking. Both reels, a '65 (EF) and '69 (EB), were neglected and inexpensive finds that needed some attention. Both were pretty rough. Having such quality components, though, there wasn't much more than a thorough cleaning, polishing, and lubing, required. I did replace the roller on one. Seems the rollers on these reels commonly take on some scoring. Ball bearings could have been replaced, but the existing ones weren't too 'hissy'.

Aesthetics ("serious black" with contrasting spools) were accomplished using blue painter's tape, artists liquid masking, VHT Wrinkle paint, and metallic Rust-oleum. The side cover was affixed to the reel body for painting using temporary screws made from bamboo skewer tips.
Title: Re: A Couple Serious 2062's
Post by: foakes on December 14, 2022, 01:57:55 AM
Very well done!

A Shakes 2062 — compared to a 2052 — is likely twice as tough — and only slightly larger.

Best, Fred
Title: Re: A Couple Serious 2062's
Post by: oldmanjoe on December 14, 2022, 02:08:47 AM
They look great and i will say that the metallic Rust-oleum primer in one is some of the best paint that comes out of a rattle can ,  It flow and cover nicely .
Title: Re: A Couple of Serious 2062's
Post by: xjchad on December 14, 2022, 03:51:51 PM
Nice work!  8)  8)
Title: Re: A Couple of Serious 2062's
Post by: Paul Roberts on December 14, 2022, 08:16:16 PM
Fred, yes, they aren't a very large reel but sport a fairly large spool. Good size for a lot of fishing. Spool size is a general thing l look for in spinning reels, for casting distance as well as retrieve speed. However the new PE braids have made the former pretty much a non-issue.
Title: Re: A Couple of Serious 2062's
Post by: Gfish on December 14, 2022, 08:25:48 PM
Great Job! The only reel that has a more "clanging" metallic-aluminum bail-trip sound than the old Mitchell  Garcia's, for me. And mine still has the rubber bail stopper on it.
Title: Re: A Couple of Serious 2062's
Post by: Paul Roberts on December 14, 2022, 11:43:11 PM
Hmmm... hadn't noticed. One does seem to scrape and clunk louder than the other. Kindof... guillotine like. :)) Not a bother but then I haven't been on the water with one yet. Probably fixable.
Title: Re: A Couple of Serious 2062's
Post by: Shellbelly on December 15, 2022, 12:18:34 AM
Nice!!!

Bamboo skewers have saved my bacon on many projects and household repairs.  Cheaper than dowel stock and better than toothpicks.
Title: Re: A Couple of Serious 2062's
Post by: happyhooker on December 15, 2022, 01:38:00 AM
Hard to beat the original maroon, but I have to admit I do like these two.  Sort of a "stealth" look.

Frank
Title: Re: A Couple of Serious 2062's
Post by: Brewcrafter on December 15, 2022, 07:35:28 AM
Those look great!  Always learning here on the Forum - I KNOW what painters tape is but what is Liquid Masking and how does it work?  Is it like Rubber Cement, where you can paint it on and after it dries you can peel it off? - john
Title: Re: A Couple of Serious 2062's
Post by: Paul Roberts on December 15, 2022, 08:28:27 AM
Shellbelly, kind of amazing how many custom tools we end up with, and materials we collect over time. "Never know when this will come in handy!"

Frank, I guess I've just never been keen on colorful reels. I like the black stealth/tech look. I got the contrasting spool idea from an A&F 200/6, and a customized Pflueger 551 (2062), I have. I recently did a Shake's 2400 in "serious black" as well, and have plans for a few other reels in the future. These being such common reels I don't feel bad altering the historical significance of them.

Hi, John. Yes, artist's masking is rubber cement like, after it dries. Brushes on and peels off. Easy to apply accurately and just rolls right off afterwards. Commonly used by watercolorists.

Title: Re: A Couple of Serious 2062's
Post by: CincyDavid on January 19, 2023, 05:42:45 PM
I'm intrigued!  I have a couple of really horrible looking Mitchell 300 and 301 reels that could only benefit from a new look. They would almost look like DAM Quicks from a distance...
Title: Re: A Couple of Serious 2062's
Post by: Midway Tommy on January 19, 2023, 06:30:40 PM
I'm not trying to be critical or cynical, just being honest, but I've never been a fan of textured or dull reel finishes and, in fact, I can't  stand the new trend to repaint vehicles with a gross ugly dull or satin finish. I've also noticed this trend on a lot of the reel repaints offered on da Bay.  :P  I'm a shiny,  wipe off, and easy to clean kinda guy. ;D
Title: Re: A Couple of Serious 2062's
Post by: foakes on January 19, 2023, 07:05:00 PM
Quote from: Midway Tommy on January 19, 2023, 06:30:40 PMI'm not trying to be critical or cynical, just being honest, but I've never been a fan of textured or dull reel finishes and, in fact, I can't  stand the new trend to repaint vehicles with a gross ugly dull or satin finish. I've also noticed this trend on a lot of the reel repaints offered on da Bay.  :P  I'm a shiny,  wipe off, and easy to clean kinda guy. ;D

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, Tommy —-

And I respect that. 

For me, as long as reels are not resold and represented as original, unpainted, and intended to mislead the buyer —- anything someone wants to do with their reels is OK by me.

I paint reels back to original when restoring.

This Spring, I'll finish up my Powder-Coating room —- and the colors I have already purchased will customize a few reels.

Penns, DQ's, and Cardinals.

50/50 Bar - Cardinals —- Insignia Orange & Cream

Yellow, Red, and Black combo DAM Quicks to honor their flag.

Red, White, and Blue Penns to honor Made in the USA.

Desert Sand, Battleship Grey, Midnight Blue, Dark Purple, and a bunch more to experiment with. 

Should be fun.

Just need to get into the outer shop, and then into the separate PC, blast cabinet, tumbler, and prep room when it is better weather.

The oven needs to be wired for 220V.  I'll do that as soon as the weather warms up.

Anyway, I really like what some of our members have done with their reels.

As for the textured, or wrinkle finish —- I also like that.  It is a tough finish and easily restored.  Just like the old radio equipment or vehicle parts that get that treatment.  Like valve covers, or old sound equipment.

Oh Yeah — then there is also a sack of Komodo Dragon Green.  What is a good reel for that?

Best, Fred
Title: Re: A Couple of Serious 2062's
Post by: Gfish on January 19, 2023, 08:02:12 PM
I've had 3 of these, Paul. They all make that sound. All mostly metal spinners do, these are just a little louder. Since I'm no longer a kid sneaking into private ponds and such, it doesn't bother me.
I have a few spare parts if you need any.
Title: Re: A Couple of Serious 2062's
Post by: Paul Roberts on January 19, 2023, 08:59:34 PM
Obviously, I don't mind customizing reels. Again, if it didn't destroy some historical significance and/or value. And to each their own as far as aesthetics. I do have my own likes and dislikes.

The esp like the wrinkle finish. Always have. And it's durable, esp when heated I've read. I don't have an oven available like Fred has done. So I've used a heat gun. Don't know how that'll pan out over time.

I did a Pflueger Nobby recently using metallic Rustoleum. I'm guessing it won't hold up terribly well. Although a while back I Rustoleum'd a spinner  and it held up surprisingly well.

Greg, nothing like manual bail closure for sneak fishing. Been there once or twice, once upon a time. And thanks so much for the parts offer. I've been threatening to send Fred a list but just haven't got round to it. I need so little, really. Kindof waiting til I have a worthwhile list.
Title: Re: A Couple of Serious 2062's
Post by: CincyDavid on January 19, 2023, 10:04:47 PM
I look at this the same way I look at customizing classic cars. They are only original once.  So, I hate to see a nice clean original car modified, but if modifying and customizing an old beater saves it from the crusher and gives the owner pleasure, why not?
Title: Re: A Couple of Serious 2062's
Post by: Midway Tommy on January 19, 2023, 11:23:30 PM
Oh, I agree, beauty and functionality is all in the eyes of the beholder, I've just never been a fan of the dull wrinkled or textured paint concept on reels, or cars, but if it trips one's trigger good for them. If I was buying something use, though, that would be my last option.
Title: Re: A Couple of Serious 2062's
Post by: Paul Roberts on January 20, 2023, 09:16:46 AM
Before Abu's Ambassadeur 5000 was released in the US, it was introduced at the 1954 World's Fair in Chicago. Three reels were displayed, one each in dark green, gold, and cranberry red. The public was to vote for the color it liked best. When the votes were tallied, green was the winner. But Abu's then owner Gote Borgstrom liked red, and so started the then "red reel" craze. The 5000 was the reel to have, light years ahead of all other casting reels, red or otherwise.
Title: Re: A Couple of Serious 2062's
Post by: CincyDavid on January 20, 2023, 12:19:55 PM
Popular voting and "focus groups" created all sorts of abominations, most notably the Pontiac Aztek.  Sometimes a dictator just has to make the call and be done with it. If the boss wants red, red it is.
https://blog.codinghorror.com/the-pontiac-aztek-and-the-perils-of-design-by-committee/
Title: Re: A Couple of Serious 2062's
Post by: Paul Roberts on January 21, 2023, 08:03:53 AM
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Title: Re: A Couple of Serious 2062's
Post by: jgp12000 on January 22, 2023, 03:05:02 PM
I prefer original paint color when available, but if a reel is missing a lot of paint(after it's made functional) they are good candidates for powder coating.
Title: Re: A Couple of Serious 2062's
Post by: Shellbelly on January 23, 2023, 12:21:27 AM
I've seen both tasteful and wild modifications.  Some of each have been good.  If I'm going to use a reel, I don't want to worry about the finish.  I'm not going to neglect it, but sometimes things get a little rough.  If it's a keepsake, I'd prefer the original finish first, then maybe a pinstripe to personalize it.

Regarding the sounds these classics make, I think it's part of their charm....like a Model A or a Poppin' Johnny tractor....or a screamin' Telecaster, each have unique sounds.  Consider it positive feedback. 8) 
Title: Re: A Couple of Serious 2062's
Post by: Midway Tommy on January 23, 2023, 03:45:34 AM
Quote from: Shellbelly on January 23, 2023, 12:21:27 AMRegarding the sounds these classics make, I think it's part of their charm....like a Model A or a Poppin' Johnny tractor....or a screamin' Telecaster, each have unique sounds.  Consider it positive feedback. 8)

I'm with you, if my reel is too quiet I'm wondering what is wrong with it?   :fish  ;D
Title: Re: A Couple of Serious 2062's
Post by: Paul Roberts on September 29, 2023, 08:13:51 PM
Quote from: Gfish on January 19, 2023, 08:02:12 PMI've had 3 of these, Paul. They all make that sound. All mostly metal spinners do, these are just a little louder. Since I'm no longer a kid sneaking into private ponds and such, it doesn't bother me.
I see what you mean now. These do close... like a guillotine! Like you could lose fingers if you weren't careful! Such a nice functioning reel I think I can put up with it. Might look into quieting that though.
Title: Re: A Couple of Serious 2062's
Post by: DougK on October 18, 2023, 04:32:17 PM
wha-clunk !
now I know my bail has closed firmly and definitely ;-)

plan to fish tonight with a 2052 on a new-to-me split cane spinning rod, South Bend 469..
I have a 2062 not yet refurbished, might try that next.
Title: Re: A Couple of Serious 2062's
Post by: Paul Roberts on December 09, 2023, 07:33:28 PM
Oh yes... I got to use one of my Stealth 2062's. Ka-Chunk!

Doug, I've never used a cane spinning/casting rod, only fly rods. I've been warming up to vintage rods lately though. Glass, and have been looking at steel (warily) and cane.
Title: Re: A Couple of Serious 2062's
Post by: sandbar on December 09, 2023, 08:29:44 PM
Nice fish, Paul.

Great to see the "stealth" in action. I like the look.

I'm with you on the old rods. I want to try a Conolon, if I can find one that doesn't need repairs.

-Steve
Title: Re: A Couple of Serious 2062's
Post by: Paul Roberts on December 10, 2023, 03:07:48 AM
Hi Steve. I'm working on a mid-50's Actionrod with an Actionglas blade. Guess I'll post about it when I'm done. No great shakes. Keeping the nice aged patina it's acquired. Just making it fishable. Nice little rod actually.

Good luck with your Conolon search. They do seem to have a following.
Title: Re: A Couple of Serious 2062's
Post by: Paul Roberts on March 15, 2024, 08:48:00 PM
19", prob just a smidgen shy of 4lbs.

These 2062's are a joy to fish with: glass smooth, plenty of torque so far (with 8-12lb lines), silent (except for that guillotine bail!). The bail needs a running start not to bind upon closing; Perhaps I can adjust that, without making it too weak. And it closes with a vengeance! It almost conjures visions of severed fingers lying on the boat floor! I've added a thin leather bail stop to meet the... incoming one. The retrieve speed is slow (21") by modern standards, but so far hasn't posed an issue, and may even be a plus in the cold water of early season. I've found high speed retrieves most needed with techniques that call for "baitcasting" rigs anyway. Although, come summer, as the overall pace picks up, I've found myself going to faster spinning reels as well.