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Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn Senator Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: alantani on August 28, 2012, 04:13:42 AM

Title: khanh tran special penn senator 113h
Post by: alantani on August 28, 2012, 04:13:42 AM
khanh tran special penn senator 113h

many of you from the san francisco bay area know khanh tran and is 6-pack charter boat, the connie t.  i have been servicing his reel and was able to get to his albacore trolling reels before the start of the season.  check out the khanh tran special penn senator 113h.

(http://alantani.com/gallery/7/1_27_08_12_8_37_02_76431349.jpeg)

(http://alantani.com/gallery/7/1_27_08_12_8_37_12_76442249.jpeg)

the only obvious change is the handle.  i have a stainless steel handle arm patterned after the penn international 30 handle arm.  the grip i chose was the 6/0 kolekar grip.  there is a penn senator power handle in the photo for comparison.

(http://alantani.com/gallery/7/1_27_08_12_8_37_30_76462412.jpeg)

there are changes inside the reel, as well.  this reel has a stainless steel gear sleeve (penn part #98-320AT) and a stainless dog from lee putnam in oregon http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=3933.0 now, except for the main gear, the entire drive train is stainless steel.

(http://alantani.com/gallery/7/1_27_08_12_8_37_39_76471850.jpeg)

even the senator gear sleeve can get worn down. 

(http://alantani.com/gallery/7/1_27_08_12_8_37_48_7648204.jpeg)

this particular reel is headed out to malaysia.  dan, your reel is done!
Title: Re: khanh tran special penn senator 113h
Post by: Alto Mare on August 28, 2012, 09:30:35 AM
Nice to hear that Dan uses the 113H on his charter boat, I'm sure he'll be very pleased with that reel. I'm not crazy about that graphite half frame though, an aluminum frame would be a good choice there. You know, i'm still waiting for you to carve the plate for the second dog Alan, that would make my day. ;D
Title: Re: khanh tran special penn senator 113h
Post by: Danhans on September 05, 2012, 08:34:31 AM
received the reel today! first impression was "this reel is a badass!"
can't wait to take it on the water!! thanks a lot to Alan and Dan suitekids for the great reel..

Sal, i don't own a charter boat  ;D but i do look forward into an aluminium tiburon topless frame..
need to save some $$$ first.. ;D
Title: Re: khanh tran special penn senator 113h
Post by: Alto Mare on September 05, 2012, 11:42:19 AM
Quote from: Danhans on September 05, 2012, 08:34:31 AM

Sal, i don't own a charter boat  ;D but i do look forward into an aluminium tiburon topless frame..
need to save some $$$ first.. ;D
Gotcha Dan, I was reading it from the top and didn't realize  your name  at the end. You will enjoy that reel and should be fine with that frame. I was just trying to let others spend some money, so I wouldn't be the only one.... ;D.
  Sal
Title: Re: khanh tran special penn senator 113h
Post by: alantani on September 05, 2012, 10:59:31 PM
yeah, the confusion is my fault.  khanh had four penn senators and i hotrodded them just like this.  he's been fishing with them for a couple of weeks already and has gotten alot of compliments on the reel.  this particular reel had the same upgrades, but was shipped to danial in malaysia.  i still can't believe it actually arrived so quickly.  i am thinking of putting together a "kit" with a stainless 4/0 gear sleeve, a drag washer for the underside of main gear, one of keta's dogs, and a stainless handle arm with a 6/0 grip.  it's an awesome reel!
Title: Re: khanh tran special penn senator 113h
Post by: saltydog on September 06, 2012, 12:22:36 PM
Well looks like I will be spending some money in the future on my 113H
Title: Re: khanh tran special penn senator 113h
Post by: George4741 on September 06, 2012, 02:58:37 PM
Alan,
Do you have the stainless handle arm and 6/0 grips for 113H and 114H available for sale?  If so, how much?  I want one of each.
Title: Re: khanh tran special penn senator 113h
Post by: Bryan Young on September 06, 2012, 04:12:42 PM
Hi George,

6/0 Kolekar Handles are $33 each.

4/0 SS arms are $15 each.

6/0 SS arms are not available.  Actually, the 6/0 arms are plenty strong and doesn't need an upgrade.  Just drill out original arm and install 6/0 handle.

Bryan
Title: Re: khanh tran special penn senator 113h
Post by: alantani on September 06, 2012, 06:56:11 PM
a 6/0 arm would be a good next project. 
Title: Re: khanh tran special penn senator 113h
Post by: Keta on September 06, 2012, 08:06:26 PM
Quote from: alantani on September 06, 2012, 06:56:11 PM
a 6/0 arm would be a good next project.  

;D

I have drawn up an arm for 349H/113H but not for the 114H....yet.  None have been cut so far.
Title: Re: khanh tran special penn senator 113h
Post by: Alto Mare on September 06, 2012, 09:35:00 PM
This is just for size. The two stock handles are for a 4/0 and 6/0:
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g431/pescatore1/001.jpg)
Title: Re: khanh tran special penn senator 113h
Post by: George4741 on September 07, 2012, 03:06:49 PM
Sal, thanks for the photo.  Now I have a better idea of how big some of those handles are.  Smoothdrag's, right?  Are the arms all from Penn?

George
Title: Re: khanh tran special penn senator 113h
Post by: Alto Mare on September 07, 2012, 09:42:46 PM
Hello George, the arms are all custom ss, not Penn's...except for the white and red. Yes smoothdrag should have those "T" knobs.
Title: Re: khanh tran special penn senator 113h
Post by: Danhans on September 08, 2012, 08:15:16 PM
at first i wanted to get a 4/0 handle because i thought 6/0 is too big for my asian hand..  ;D
when i first saw it, the size really shocked me but once i put my hand around it, i can feel so much power..it is just incredible..
and the arm is a real beauty..the nut's lock looks very nice and expensive..

i'm not sure about the handle material but i don't think the kolekar handles can be as hot as aluminium if exposed under direct sun light right?
in tropical countries the weather is HOT all year round..we had like 2-3 weeks of rainy seasons a couple of times in a year but most of the time the weather is hot..i'll be using the reel for bottom fishing and under a hot sun, aluminium handles can heat up very quickly..you gonna have a really bad day if you're using full aluminium reel/handle without gloves.. ;D

(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/564536_4245891181601_1098721251_n.jpg)
Title: Re: khanh tran special penn senator 113h
Post by: Alto Mare on September 08, 2012, 08:26:34 PM
Yes Dan, that is a nice handle you have there, excellent craftmanship, you could also use any other handles .
You are using them on  a Senator afterall, all you need to do is to dunk the reel every now and then to cool it off ;). I'm sure it will still be smooth ;D
Title: Re: khanh tran special penn senator 113h
Post by: Alto Mare on September 09, 2012, 04:15:21 PM
You bring up a good point Dan, thinking about it some more, i'm wondering if those aluminum handles have been drilled for that purpose also :-\ like the heat shield on a rifles. I wouldn't be able to tell on mine, when I'm out on the water I usually wear a light jacke, doesn't really get too hot here in the NE, when on the ocean.
Title: Re: khanh tran special penn senator 113h
Post by: lyt on September 11, 2012, 12:40:54 AM
I recently put those same handles on all of my tld's     I agree, when I saw them being wheeled in by the UPS guy I was like....   "are you sure this package is for me?"  Then I saw Alan's name so I knew it had to be the right ones :)   

I know it is personal preference....   but I went with the non aluminum ones....  for one simple fact.... even the "chance" the handle could get hot here in Florida, .....and the fact that yes even aluminum still corrodes over time.   perhaps not in your lifetime :) but i don't even want a hint of it :)
Title: Re: khanh tran special penn senator 113h
Post by: alantani on September 11, 2012, 03:40:27 AM
Quote from: Danhans on September 08, 2012, 08:15:16 PM

(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/564536_4245891181601_1098721251_n.jpg)

you may find it more comfortable to hold it between your index and middle finger.  glad you like it, though!
Title: Re: khanh tran special penn senator 113h
Post by: George4741 on September 26, 2012, 02:58:33 AM
I received a Khanh Tran Special stainless steel arm and 6/0 grip today.  Awesome!  It has a longer throw than the standard 113H handle, approximately 0.42 inch longer.  This is a plus and will make it easier to crank a heavy load.  Nice!  Thanks Alan.
 George
Title: Re: khanh tran special penn senator 113h
Post by: LTM on September 26, 2012, 04:20:40 AM
In regards to a longer/sturdy handle; I recall reading on this forum that the Daiwa 600h handle can be used on the Penn 6/0 at a much better price point. That makes me wonder if there is a stainless steel gear sleeve that will work on the 600H. Really like thoses ss 4/0 handles, there on my "hit-list". In regards to the 4/0 vs the 6/0 handles size on the 113H reel im still on the fence trying to decide and I have both kolekar grip sizes on other reels. Im going to start a new post on that subject soon.

Leo
Title: Re: khanh tran special penn senator 113h
Post by: floating doc on July 06, 2013, 07:33:20 PM
I've been thinking about which handles to choose for my reels. I'm in Florida,  so the possibility of aluminum getting too hot is important. Are Alan's plastic?
Title: Re: khanh tran special penn senator 113h
Post by: Ron Jones on July 06, 2013, 09:13:16 PM
I currently have Kahn's exact setup on my Marlin Special and I absolutly love it!! Alan has spoiled me, I migrated my 6/0 grip to the Marlin Special and had to put a 4/0 on the Grouper Special. The 4/0 just feels silly small.

Try this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/Paddler/PipeJigs.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.ifish.net/board/showthread.php?t%3D107001&h=720&w=960&sz=127&tbnid=HZ-LvBz-8D174M:&tbnh=92&tbnw=123&zoom=1&usg=__zCZ1Mc4R-Pd_lC4QTr3q3HuvTmY=&docid=Dx2kyMRzCjdkkM&sa=X&ei=P43YUa74HOOyiQKJooHQDg&ved=0CC4Q9QEwAA&dur=2443

Ron
Title: Re: khanh tran special penn senator 113h
Post by: alantani on July 08, 2013, 02:54:01 AM
the grip is delron, so it can be used hot or cold. 
Title: Re: khanh tran special penn senator 113h
Post by: floating doc on July 08, 2013, 03:37:22 AM
Thanks, I'm going to have to spread out my purchases so I'll get an order in later this summer.