Reel Repair by Alan Tani

Conventional and Bait Casting Reel Rebuild Tutorials and Questions => Penn International Tutorials and Questions => Topic started by: alantani on December 08, 2009, 11:42:32 PM

Title: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: alantani on December 08, 2009, 11:42:32 PM
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Tools of the trade yamaha lube and drag grease a must!!

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I lubricate all screws with corrosion x to prevent breakage

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NOTE: broken quadrant screw

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Remove handle locking plate (key #: 110A)

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Remove handle screw using penn reel tool (key #: 23)

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Remove bridge cover (key #: 124)

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NOTE: salt intrusion

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More salt intrusion

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Remove right side plate assembly (key #: 1)

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NOTE: hardened grease, salt intrusion on inside of right plate assembly

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Remove spool assembly (key #: 29L)

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Drag washer (key #: 117)

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It's hard to see, but more salt on clicker plate (key #: 81)

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salt, salt, and MORE salt!

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even MORE salt.

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Spool bearings (key #: 55), not even worth trying to save

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I use WD40 to wash and lubricate all parts except drag washer before reassembling

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Main gear assembly

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Broken quadrant screw after removal

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Remove shields and grease bearings reinstall shields

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Repacked bearings before reinstalling shields

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Light coat of grease on spool

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I used locktite only on these screws because i found a few that have come loose

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Grease the drag washer

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Finished  drag washer

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Left plate assembly key #: 27

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Lets install the main gear assembly,be sure to lube stud key # : 134 and coupling plate key #:119

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Install main gear first, then shaft

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Attach connecting plate(key #: 119 to drive gear (key #: 5)

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Both side plates, lightly coated with grease to prevent salt damage

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Completed right side plate assmebly

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Install pinion shaft in spool NOTE: added 5th belleville washer () () Stock configuration changed to: ((())

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Spool sleeve made from alluminum

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Install drag washer and cover

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Install spool and left side plate assembly

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Grease around pinion, just for my own peace of mind i think i have salt a phobia

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Light coat of grease on clicker plate

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Grease all hole's  to prevent salt intrusion. i brush grease on screw threads by habit
because on reels with frames the tollerance's are tight and no place for the grease to escape.
i noticed screws hard to tighten all the way down, too much grease and force the screws will cause frame cracking in my opinion. i may be wrong but dont want to find out the hard way.

thanks alan for letting me post this on your page. i wanted to show how bad salt can be on those high dollar reels. reels take a beating trolling here in hawaii, but a little service and some prevention will go along way. i think this shows why reels should be serviced before 1st use. i am glad i could rescue these reels and i need to thank you alan for giving me the reel repair bug         aloha  kamu

Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Norcal Pescador on January 27, 2011, 05:01:10 AM
Kamu or Alan or -
I'm rebuilding an International 50 and it has the original asbestos drag washer. Should I go with the 117DN-50 Dura Drag or the 6/1-50 HT-100? I'm not expecting to use the reel more than about 6 days a year for tuna, etc., and it will be loaded with 130# spectra. The reel looks great inside with no evidence of salt water intrusion and the drag plates are fine.
Also the spool bearings are good; pulled the seals, cleaned, lubed with reelx and made a sleeve. Will probably get new main bearings.

Kamu, thanks for doing the tutorial! 8)
Rob
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Bryan Young on January 27, 2011, 05:17:06 AM
Rob, change the drags.  I believe that the dura-drags are greased and the ht-100s are dry.
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: wallacewt on January 27, 2011, 05:30:30 AM
kamu,your one of the reasons this site is so good.every time some one takes the time to post a tutorial all fishermen and ladies around the world benefit.how about it ladies,who will be the first ::)
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: kamuwela on January 27, 2011, 09:06:59 AM
use the dura and cal's  you know the drill lol. thanks for all the possitive comments everyone. alan deserves the credit, most of you who started here know what i mean.
                                         aloha
                                         kamu
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: anykine77 on January 27, 2011, 05:13:27 PM
Kamu, Alan

Have you ever had to change the pre-program key pin for the.  A friend of mine says it should be changed every so often, but I have never heard that before or seen it mentioned on this site.

Thanks

Ron
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Norcal Pescador on January 27, 2011, 08:33:14 PM
Quote from: kamuwela on January 27, 2011, 09:06:59 AM
use the dura and cal's  you know the drill lol. ......
                                         aloha
                                         kamu
Aloha kamu. That's what I needed to know. ;)

Mahalo,
Rob
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: kamuwela on January 28, 2011, 04:13:25 AM
anykine is this ron? anways if you are talking about the cam follower locating pins, then yes. i have seen a few lately showing its age. salt water enters through the right side plate just under the handle,and into the right side plate. check the main shaft bearings, right plate bearing, cam housing,cam follower and locating pins.
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: anykine77 on January 28, 2011, 04:58:31 PM
Thanks Kamu,

The reel looked pretty good, very little salt.  I just didn't think those pins actually wore out.  I never had to change on my reels, but he wanted to change on his penn 80s.

Ron
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: kamuwela on January 28, 2011, 07:15:51 PM
they dont actually wear out. they get corroded then hang up in the grooves of the cam housing.when adjusting the drag youll notice it doesnt return to free spool easily. most wont even notice,  untill  backing off the preset. i have seen a few st's that had to replace the cam housing and follower due to salt intrusion. like everything else its all about maintance. see you in the harbor, good luck.
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Alto Mare on March 03, 2011, 12:14:28 PM
Kamuwela,thanks for what you contribute to this site. I'm still green and catching up on previus posts.You guys make it so easy to take a chance on working on  reels.  Although some repair men post here, I wonder if most repair shops like this or hate it. Keep up your great work. I would like the opportunity to meet you someday when I am back in Hawaii re-visiting our honey moon spot, as we do every so often. Take care, Sal
Alan, thanks for this great site, love it!
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: alantani on March 03, 2011, 04:10:35 PM
i think this is the best possible thing that could happen for a repair shop.  guys will look at this and say "hey, i can do this myself" and buy parts.  other guys will look at this and say "no way!" and bring it in.  and others will still wait until their reels are too far gone, no matter what.  raise the awareness and you will bring in more business. 
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Alto Mare on March 03, 2011, 04:40:36 PM
Alan, not to bring politics into the picture, have you ever considered running for President? I think there is a nice desk there that you could still work on  reels on the side.
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: alantani on March 03, 2011, 08:59:43 PM
no.  i've no patience for the bs.....
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Alto Mare on March 04, 2011, 01:58:24 AM
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: kamuwela on March 04, 2011, 05:15:02 AM
sal thanks for the great words i appreciate it more then i can say. alan deserves all the credit for helping me get started and a better repair person. anytime your here let me know ill take you out on my boat
                                                                        aloha
                                                                         kamu
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: erikpowell on January 08, 2012, 11:13:30 PM
Bula KamuSan, Alan, Bryan,et all.... Got a 50TW here I've replaced a stripped gear stud & handle nut on last year.. I've noticed now that the handle/stud assembly has about 1/16-1/8" of play, in & out. Almost seems like it could use a shim or washer, or longer SpacingSleeve (key 9) like they offer for the jigmaster & senator reels. Is this a worry or is it ok to leave the play in there? Mahalo!
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: kamuwela on January 08, 2012, 11:33:29 PM
add a shim im sure roy's or hanapaa has some. part# 154-50.
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: erikpowell on January 11, 2012, 09:26:40 PM
Vinaka Kamu!! 
Next question for the Board....
Dumb question of the day:
International II  50 SW  2speed ......  How does the low gear work on these reels?
Got two here to service that work fine, except One is stuck in Low, the other stuck in High
There is only the single round button to push, no twist or button to release it.... is it a push to engage & a 2nd push to disengage?
???
Many thanks
erik
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: alantani on January 11, 2012, 09:58:23 PM
the entire handle moves in and out!   ;D
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Gaujo on May 28, 2012, 04:40:14 AM
I believe this is a penn international 50, the 50T has the one piece frame unless I am mistaken.  Thanks for the great write up Kamu.
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: kamuwela on May 28, 2012, 06:48:24 AM
you are right my mistake
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Gaujo on June 03, 2012, 07:52:04 PM
Speaking of which, if one has a 50 can they swap in a 50T frame?
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: alantani on June 04, 2012, 12:55:23 AM
i believe the location of the screws is different.
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: GT on June 05, 2012, 01:12:55 PM
I will service this reel soon.

I do not quite understand what does this sentence mean: "belleville washer () () Stock configuration changed to: ((())".

Couldn't find this part on the schematics.

Thanks L.
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: kamuwela on June 05, 2012, 02:29:24 PM
they are called spring washers and they go on the pinion gear. the washers are cupped and look simular to this   ( the factory setting is ()() ill call this in out in out you can get a higher drag but it will also ramp up much faster by facing the washers all one way (((( or the happy medium (()))
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: GT on June 06, 2012, 02:20:12 PM
Thanks a lot, now I got it.

I serviced the reel yesterday and I noticed that it has no carbon fibre drag washer, but instead a washer of the same material of the old senator washers. Obviously I did not grease that kind of drag washer.

Do you think it is advisable to upgrade it to a dura-drag?
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: kamuwela on June 06, 2012, 02:59:17 PM
i would change it.
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: alantani on June 07, 2012, 03:00:52 AM
it is expensive, but i would change it out.
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: p-deverett on June 07, 2012, 03:35:27 AM
Alan looking at the mysticparts website is this part no 117DN-50 for $34.90 or are their other parts that need to upgraded as well?

Peter


"Edited as per Moderators to correct Scott's Bait & Tackle over to their new store name Mystic Reel Parts / www.mysticparts.com"
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: kamuwela on June 07, 2012, 04:30:23 AM
thats all you need
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: JGB on June 07, 2012, 04:53:53 AM
The 117DN-50 should just drop in. It replaces the 117d -50 which is HT100 which replaces the HT100 drag/pressure plate that replaces the original asbestos hard disk  and pressure plate. I just updated 2 50W reels with the 117D HT100 and it went smoothly.
I'm not sure how much different the performance is with the 'dura drag' material over the HT100. Coarser weave  and slightly smaller drag diameter. In either case lots of drag pressure that is smooth.

Jim N.
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Loolee 3 on June 12, 2012, 06:05:34 PM
Thanks for this info and correction.  I was wondering why this looked so much like my plain 50's.  Great article on rebuilding the drag!
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: GT on July 20, 2012, 12:47:23 PM
I am about to replace the absetos drag washer with the dura drag one.

The 117DN-50 just arrived but I have a doubt... did I also have to order the 7-50 floating drag washer or I can use the one used with the absetos drag?

The one that i have is a metal washer not in bronze like the ones on 115L.

Thanks,
L.
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: kamuwela on July 20, 2012, 03:50:57 PM
you will need the drag plate its metal and screws to the spool. i diddnt see it on the schematic. do you have the original plate?
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: GT on July 21, 2012, 09:06:30 AM
I changed the old absetos drag washer metal with its stone like (absetos) drag washer) with this one

https://www.mysticparts.com/Assets/images/pennparts/parts/117dn_50.jpg (https://www.mysticparts.com/Assets/images/pennparts/parts/117dn_50.jpg)

As you can see there are no screews on this thing... instead of the four screws that where on the absetos drag.

The reel have been completely rebuild (I also packed the ball bearings with grease - I finished the yamaha grease and I used Cal's is that a problem?).

I also added the 5th belleville washer to do the config that you stated in your  rebuild ((())

The reel seems to be a little less smooth than before but it works.

What do you think?

"Edited as per Moderators to correct Scott's Bait & Tackle over to their new store name Mystic Reel Parts / www.mysticparts.com"

Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: kamuwela on July 21, 2012, 02:53:32 PM
was there a metal plate or disc with the old drag washer? the most recent 50t i did had the plate screwed to the spool then the drag spring then the drag washer you have facing the spool. can you take a few pics for us? if it is not as smooth try and reconfigure the bellevilles and see if that changes anything.
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: GT on July 23, 2012, 09:04:55 PM

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This is the reel

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This is the original absetos disk with its original metal washer

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Opened inside

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The new dura-drag drag washer outside 117DN-50

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The new dura-drag drag washer

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The new dura-drag drag washer inside with the original spring

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the original floating metal washer

The reel has a problem, even if I remove the fifth bellville washer it does not come as smooth as it was and also I noticed another thing.

When I increase the drag near the strike position the reel becomes hard as hell to turn.

What did I do wrong?

Thanks a lot,

L.
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: kamuwela on July 24, 2012, 06:51:06 AM
the side plate bearings need to be changed. im sure its the right one but change both. when playing with higher pressures the bearings take a beating. the more you increase the drag the harder it gets? if yes then they are the culprit.
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Robert Janssen on July 24, 2012, 07:41:50 AM
Quote from: kamuwela on July 24, 2012, 06:51:06 AM
the side plate bearings need to be changed. im sure its the right one but change both. when playing with higher pressures the bearings take a beating. the more you increase the drag the harder it gets? if yes then they are the culprit.

May I differ, or at least modify that somewhat?

No, if the bearings were fine before one started rearranging things, and they are not fine afterwards, then they are not the culprit.

Increased turning resistance is in and of itself in this case completely normal; a result of increased axial pressure brought upon the bearing. It does not immediately mean that a bearing is defective.

Really, it may be preferred to have another look and ascertain that the other things were done correctly, not leastly that the belleville spring washers were installed in the correct order.

Granted, I have no idea what yours look like; maybe its old and nasty and the bearings are completely ruined to begin with.

I gotta go.

.
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: kamuwela on July 24, 2012, 03:32:32 PM
99% of the time when its hard to crank its the right side plate bearing. if the resistance increases as you ramp up the drag then the bearing is going bad. in other words the more you give it the harder it gets to crank. have the bearings ever been changed? those reels were first made in the late 60's and early 70's. i would put my money on the bearings. ive done a bunch of these mods and they crank like butter. reset the bellevilles to ()() and see how it cranks i bet if you set the drag to max it is still hard to crank.
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: GT on July 26, 2012, 01:52:18 PM
Thank you guys!

Some questions:

- the bellville washers are all equal? I mean I had 4 installed and to me they are the same piece, the only thing that changes is the orientation, am I right?

- the stamement (()) means that I have to put one by one in the pinion in this order ) then ) then ( then ( so that when I look the pinion they are (())?

- The first thing that I want to try is to put the old drag washer back in place and see if I have the same problem again or something went wrong while re-assemble the other things.. what do you think? Maybe that new drag washer isnt correct for that model or has to be installed in another way.

Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: kamuwela on July 26, 2012, 04:51:14 PM
you got it, i say in out in out refering to the curve of the washer. try the washers the drag can only go one way, facing the metal  disc and dont forget the spring.
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: GT on August 08, 2012, 07:07:16 AM
Tried all the three with no success.

1) Tried to put the old drag washer: seems to go but when I turn hard the pre-set of the drag it is almost impossibile to move the lever drag.

2) took a look to the bearing and they seem to be perfect.

3) I have a doubt i did not put all the pieces the right way when I put everything back on on the first rebuild.

L.
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: kamuwela on August 08, 2012, 04:31:33 PM
set the washers like this ()() then swap the spool bearings with the side plate bearings then see what happens. ill bet my pay check  on the bearings.
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: GT on August 28, 2012, 10:24:07 AM
Sorry kamu, I did not get what you want me to do.

Can you please explain in more detail? (I'm Italian)  ;)
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: GT on October 10, 2012, 10:18:18 AM
Could not work this out.

Can you suggest me someone I can send the reel to get it repaired?

(better if here in Italy).

Thanks
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: kamuwela on October 10, 2012, 03:06:26 PM
i am thinking you have a bad pinion bearing. lets try and switch the bearings around. try using the spool bearings in the side plates. just trade side bearings with the spool bearings. next lets put the washers back how they belong ()() this will help in troubleshooting the problem.
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: saltydog on October 29, 2012, 06:51:56 AM
That would work on the handle side bearing but not on the left side plate bearing as it is a different size.The right way is (()) not))(( if you do this it could destroy the spool bearings because the load would be placed on the Ball bearings shield.
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: kamuwela on October 29, 2012, 02:25:22 PM
    l (()) the curved side faces the bearing, there are many ways to set the belleville washers, just make sure the flat side faces away from the bearing.
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Augie3000 on March 17, 2013, 01:28:24 PM
Great tutorial Kamu.  I have four International 50TW's.  I am researching how to give them a cleaning and maintenance.  Is this the right tutorial?  Will they be similar to this 50T?  Thanks again.

Augie
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: kamuwela on March 17, 2013, 02:59:36 PM
it will work they are almost identical. good luck and dont be afraid to ask questions.
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: dartracer on August 02, 2014, 02:16:27 AM
Howzit, I just found this awesome forum and would like to thank everyone for sharing your knowledge and experiences.  I'm attempting my first reel overhaul on a 130st and already got stuck on the dismantle.   Does anyone know how to remove key no. 50 part no. 50 - 130S "SHIELD".  I can't figure how to pry it off without causing any damage.   Thanks
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Tightlines667 on August 02, 2014, 02:36:42 AM
Get 2 large flathead screw drivers. 
Insert one on each side under the shield.
Twist and gently pry each one at the same time to work the shield up and free of the shaft.
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: dartracer on August 02, 2014, 09:30:19 AM
Thank you Tightlines666!   Your screw driver trick worked perfectly.   From there I kinda got the touch and wasn't too worried of damaging the reel during the dismantle.   I can't wait to see how the reel will perform after I clean off all the salt and old grease (nasty).  Thanks again.
Title: Re: international 50T - SPOOL SLEEVE QUERY 2015
Post by: ohfishalee on January 24, 2015, 03:43:01 PM
Quote from: Norcal Pescador on January 27, 2011, 05:01:10 AM
Kamu or Alan or -
I'm rebuilding an International 50 and it has the original asbestos drag washer. Should I go with the 117DN-50 Dura Drag or the 6/1-50 HT-100? I'm not expecting to use the reel more than about 6 days a year for tuna, etc., and it will be loaded with 130# spectra. The reel looks great inside with no evidence of salt water intrusion and the drag plates are fine.
Also the spool bearings are good; pulled the seals, cleaned, lubed with reelx and made a sleeve. Will probably get new main bearings.

Kamu, thanks for doing the tutorial! 8)
Rob



I have a Penn 80w International circa 1982 and am considering a rebuild/upgrade as follows:

- I have seen a frame upgrade on Cal Sheets website that I am considering.
- Drag material (once I get the reel completely open to determine what kind).
- Spool Sleeve advice needed - what is the benefit of such a sleeve?



All questions answered - reel is in service and performing well!
Title: Re: international 50T - written by kamu !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: steelfish on May 21, 2015, 06:44:25 PM
I just finished a Penn international 50T II (2 speed)
and everything is fine and all, but the curve or the jump form strike to full is pretty high, I havent measured with a scale but I calculate 3-4# at strike and at full I can barely strip some line 10-12#, I could be wrong on the numbers but what is true is that seems like if you want to fish 15# at full then strike drag might be unusable cuz its really low like 5# I guess, if you want 10# at strike then when put in full the reel feels like locked all up.

its that normal in this kind of big game reels?

beneville config is like this () ()