Working on a 700 greenie. Trying to make a van/penn or if you will a penn/ staal. I should have taken pictures befor I stripped it down. Im now trying to paint it and looking for suggestions on the best way to do this. I know powder coating is maybe the best, but trying to keep the cost down. Any help would be great.
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Very nice project you got going there Bmitch, it's a shame you killed the first edition spinnfisher, that one was worth some money...just kidding ;D. You do have the first edition though, nice handle ;).
Check over by SOL, a few guys there have done those and I'm sure you'll find all of the information you need.
Powder coating might be tricky, even on these, tolerance is tight :-\.
Maybe Bob (Cone) will chime in, he has done some painting with good results. You might need to get rid of that knob, I'm sure it would melt in the oven.
Actually, get yourself another handle, that one is worth keeping. If someone needs it bad enough, I'm sure you'll get around $25 for it.
By the way, here goes the carpenter/ mason coming out of me , the two holes at the bottom, on the last picture are 1/8 closer.
I'm just messing with you ;D.
Take pictures as you move along. Very nice project, thanks for sharing and good luck!
Sal
Sal, you could be right about the spacing. I free handed the drilling so it's anyone's guess as to the spacing accuracy? I did make a template from some graph paper. The actual drilling was done with a hand drill. I did look on SOL and my only question there is on the primer coat. Is that necessary? What about if I was to buff it up only. Without any paint? What about a clear coat only? I have found no mention of what type/kind? I don't want to have to restripp and paint again,but maybe that's just part of the learning curve. Anyone can jump in and offer their suggestions and or experience. Good or bad. Would be great.
Bob
Bmitch, I have used gunkote before. Here is a link: http://www.kgcoatings.com/index.php?p=catalog&parent=6&pg=1 They have a color chart on the site. Brownells sells it as well. I only have matte black and gun metal blue in the 2400 series. I use an airbrush to apply it. Ceracoat is probably better but i have never used it. If you want Black I would do it for free if you pay the shipping. Bob
Thanks cone. Whats your thoughts on the buffing then a clear coat. The plain metal Penn used on these reels is nice looking when bare. This might be an option. It's almost a gunmetal gray.
I'm sure that it would look fine. I don't know how the clear would hold up or adhere to a buffed finish though.
Bob
Question is what kind of clear?
Quote from: BMITCH on March 23, 2013, 01:30:23 PM
Sal, you could be right about the spacing. I free handed the drilling so it's anyone's guess as to the spacing accuracy? I did make a template from some graph paper. The actual drilling was done with a hand drill. I did look on SOL and my only question there is on the primer coat. Is that necessary? What about if I was to buff it up only. Without any paint? What about a clear coat only? I have found no mention of what type/kind? I don't want to have to restripp and paint again,but maybe that's just part of the learning curve. Anyone can jump in and offer their suggestions and or experience. Good or bad. Would be great.
Bob
You did all that drilling by hand, I'm impressed. I thought you used a drill press.
As I said above, just messing with you, it does look very nice.
I have a smaller reel that I removed the paint, I set it aside and never bothered with it. I had the same idea about just using clear coat, but it would probably turn gray when finished :-\.
Nice, will look cool when done.I like the mod on the spool to add the eared washers,& hts. Great old reels carbide line roller, lots of Stainless & naval bronze parts inside.Penn was on to something with these. Mines pretty stock except the drags,are converted to ht's & has packed blue grease in the bearing.
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Rich, Thats a nice looking reel. They don't make them like that anymore. Bob
This is another cool mod that can be done for these old reels too.
Looks stock
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Surfcaster, I was thinking if I ever broke the handle on this 700 what would I do?? You've answered that with this handle. What spinner did the handle arm cone from. What I would really like is the large round white handle that I believe was available on the 710? Any leads on something like that?
It came from an old 704 I broke the knob and epoxied a green knob from my old franken reels/ spare parts/projects/ experiments gone wrong
parts bin. Mostley before Alan started this site. The bend is different than the 700 & it hits the bail. It Does works on a 700 with bailless kit. 704z 706z handles fit too. but again not with the bail. No good handles around But I may have one or 2 spare knobs around somewhere.....
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Rich, thanks for the info. It seems to me that the east coast fisher people really like the older Penn 700 series compared to our west coast counterparts. Do you think that is because of the way we fish?
Probably is,a alot of us still use them in the surf up here.
700 series is one of the toughest & is the easiest to maintain.
bailless= best plugging reel, reels with bails =best dead sticking bait reel.
Mitch how did you get all the paint off? I am working on a 720 and having trouble getting paint out the housing.
Zip strip and a metal brush. Than acetone with a q-tip= elbow grease.
Bob/BMITCH,
Did you ever finish your reel? If so, please tell us about it. Photos would be nice. I have a 700 coming in the mail so I'm kinda interested in them.
Thanks,
George
Sorry to say George, this is as far as I got :( got kinda side tracked. I completely forgot about this project.
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So, now I gotta find someone to paint this bad boy. Any suggestions? I know someone on here does that kind of work. Anyone?
Bob,
You might want to ask Cole. This is some of the best work I have seen! :o
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=12548.msg123562#msg123562
Thanks Daron. I Sent a PM to him.
Nice Bob, can't wait to see it finished. Did you do the drilling yourself?
Bob, thanks for updating us on your 700. I eagerly await the completed photos. ;)
Make sure if you fish with it not to tighten the drag down to tight. This is the result of that. Cast metal and you have weakened it even more by drilling it. Looks cool but not when this happens!
Oh No!! :o :o that's very uncool. I've never seen this happen. I know a lot of guys vanStalize their greenies. Never heard any issues like this before....then again I wasn't looking. Thanks for the heads up ;)
the-reel-doc, thanks for that, its very helpful to many. ;) I had no idea that reel would generate that much force.
Thanks for sharing.
Sal
Ouch!
I have seen some 850's drilled out and have shied away from them.
Good to Know Larry!
Here's a 706 that wasn't drilled. It happens quite often on the greenies and black spools. The gold spools are not cast metal and won't do this. The tackle store where I worked quit spooling the green spools due to this happening. The problem is the mono line. It stretches out if tight then it will retract and it has nowhere to expand so it "explodes" the spool. I blew up a plastic spool once from a cheap reel. Was new and didn't know to just lay the mono onto it. I was so proud cause it looked really nice when I was done but about a minute later it was a different story! :-[
How about braid on these?? Same issues?
Braid doesn't stretch so "no" it doesn't happen but the older reels were not designed to handle braid since it was not around when they were made. Rollers will not hold up due to no bearings.
No worries I Got plenty of spare 700 spools if you ever wreck one.
I never had a spool break but broke a few rotor cups. [dropping & Trying to remove screws]
I changed mine to the 706 rotor/spools it has bearing line roller that handles braid& mono way better.
Surfcaster, the roller spool is a great point. Thanks for the info.
Bob
Here's an unharassed original first version. :)
More hunter green than the later spinfisher green. Thank you for showing that Tommy.
-steve