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General Maintenance Tips => Tools and Lubricants => Topic started by: harryk3616 on June 02, 2013, 12:05:55 AM

Title: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: harryk3616 on June 02, 2013, 12:05:55 AM
Hi  guys   Here are some pictures of tools that I made to assist me in my reel work, plus photos of me working in my workshop.

(http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a486/guitdude1/Dads%20pics/IMG_0572_zps479fdd9c.jpg)
my gadget for spinning stiff handle knobs to lossen them up

(http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a486/guitdude1/Dads%20pics/IMG_0573_zps86bf0c59.jpg)
a wedge to hold up the thumb screw on a jigmaster

(http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a486/guitdude1/Dads%20pics/IMG_0566_zps0266d40c.jpg)
a wood jig to hold a spool while i'm removing line with my two funnel line stripper

(http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a486/guitdude1/Dads%20pics/IMG_0578_zpsc1eedbd0.jpg)
every day tools, a pin punch with sleeve holder, hose to hold gears in tact

(http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a486/guitdude1/Dads%20pics/IMG_0592_zps32378742.jpg)
assorted small parts, screws etc plus shoeboxes to hold reel parts

(http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a486/guitdude1/Dads%20pics/IMG_0589_zpsc79cf4e7.jpg)
tools hanging by work light, '' alans wrench handy ''

(http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a486/guitdude1/Dads%20pics/IMG_0580_zps989d6b66.jpg)
me on my scooter in my work shop groovin
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: Bryan Young on June 02, 2013, 12:09:57 AM
That's awesome Harry. I love your innovative jigs.
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: Alto Mare on June 02, 2013, 12:18:49 AM
I'm impressed Harry, very creative ;). That smile on your face on that last shot tells it all.
Tanks for sharing your great ideas Harry, don't ever give up.
Your friend, Sal

Alan, I believe I see photo of the month on that last shot.....
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: pejerey on June 02, 2013, 03:06:38 AM
Nice photos.  I like the idea of your "grease board".  I have the grease in a small cup and I am constantly chasing it around the work bench to get a little grease on the brush.  Question.  When you use the hose on the sleeve, does that allow you to slide it into the side plate and hold the washers and all in place?  I often have trouble with the washers moving out of position and I don't know it until it is all closed up and I test the drag and only have half as much.  Thanks.
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: harryk3616 on June 02, 2013, 03:44:47 AM
hi pejerey       yes,  the hose works fantastic,  depending on which hose you get, worst case you might have to shave the sides a little. i slide on the tube, it holds everything in place, after inserting the bridge and gear assy.  hook up dog and spring, tighten the 4 screws, i slide the tube off and done, excellent.  the piece of wood with the grease brush, is the top of my wd40 wash bowl, works great
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: harryk3616 on June 02, 2013, 03:52:45 AM
hi pejerey       i use it on penn 109's  and penn 9's  right on up to the bigger reels, no problem
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: john2244 on June 02, 2013, 04:25:07 AM
Great work shop!!   Thanks for posting.
John
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: Mandelstam on June 02, 2013, 07:31:54 AM
Beautiful shop! :)
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: BMITCH on June 02, 2013, 12:11:50 PM
Love the hose idea. I've been using a rubber band. I'll give this a try. Thanks.  Bob
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: doradoben on June 02, 2013, 02:41:20 PM
Very cool, Harry. Do you work on reels other than Penn's ??
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: harryk3616 on June 02, 2013, 03:15:23 PM
hi    doradoben        i mainly work on penn reels  and cardinal spinners 3,4,6and7's  , i collect them as a hobby to occupy myself.   for friends i work on their mitchells, diawas etc gives me something to do.  i enjoy the heck out of it, keeps my wheels turning, don't want my brain to go stale. thanks for the response. if my son helps me again, i'm going to show a reel good thing i made.
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: alantani on June 03, 2013, 04:23:45 AM
well done!
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: Nessie Hunter on June 03, 2013, 09:58:11 PM
Amazing harry, way to go!!!!   :o
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: BMITCH on June 03, 2013, 11:03:05 PM
Harry, the spool jig is a neat idea also. Man I gotta lot of stuff to build now. Thanks for all the great ideas.
Bob
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: harryk3616 on June 03, 2013, 11:07:11 PM
hi    bob      i figured why put extra wear and tear on the reel, stripping the line, if the reel is apart its a cinch.
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: triumphrick on June 04, 2013, 12:31:08 AM
Great pictures of some fine looking tools and improvisations....

Why the compass, Harry?
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: harryk3616 on June 04, 2013, 12:40:01 AM
hi triumphrick       i use the compass when i'm installing the sideplate, especially if the chrome ring is loose, it keeps everything lined up and when i'm installing the plate, i stick the point of the compass into the hole of one of the cross bars ,then  slide the plate into position ,alinging the shaft of the spool with the bearing hole, then i have my green screw driver, screw holder all set up with a screw stuck in it, i  install the screw loosley then install the rest of the screws.
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: publius on June 20, 2013, 11:43:20 PM
That double funnel line stripper is great.
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: harryk3616 on June 20, 2013, 11:47:05 PM
hi pubulis          did you make a funnel line stripper?   the wooden spool holder also works great if you have the reel apart and you want to strip the line off the spool, less wear and tear on the reel bearings and innards.
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: redsetta on June 21, 2013, 12:33:56 AM
Great post Harry - nice to be able to put a face to the name ;) ;D
Thanks for sharing your innovations.
All the best, Justin
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: harryk3616 on June 21, 2013, 12:50:28 AM
hi   justin          how have you been?  hope all is well with you and your family,  my son was home and he helped post the pictures of my shop and innovations, being handicapped i have to overcome many obstacles, and hopefully my innovations will help others.  thanks for responding, my best to you.   harryk
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: redsetta on June 21, 2013, 01:00:32 AM
All good here Harry, thanks.
There's a bit of a storm over NZ today, which makes for perfect reel-fixing weather, but I'm just getting over a broken shoulder so am only partially able at present ;)
Should be good as gold in another couple of weeks.
Cheers mate, Justin
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: broadway on June 21, 2013, 03:54:17 AM
Harry,
     Do you make wooden puppets with long noses, too? Very impressive!
I like the lag bolts in the planos... to assist in getting them off the shelf without a hassle.
I feel like I just read the tips and tricks section of "saltwater sportsman" magazine.
I like that you ain't lettin' nuttin' stop ya... create to suit your needs ;)
Thanks
Dom
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: El Pescador on June 21, 2013, 01:33:48 PM
Harry,

LOVE the Double Funnel Line Stripper!  and this idea would have saved me $12.95 for a Father's Day Gift from my sons!

http://www.getlineoff.com/fishing-line-winder.htm                  My sons purchased this product for me for Father's Day, and now I see the charge on my Credit Card!!!!

What other nifty tool products do you use in your work area???

Inquiring minds want to know!

Wayne
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: harryk3616 on June 21, 2013, 04:24:29 PM
good morning   el pescador     i have a couple of other special tools i have made. when my son comes home again i'll have him put them on line again.  i purchased fine wire wheels on ebay for my dremel, on slow speed it is fantastic for removing green corrosion on the brass ecentric parts as well as minor junk on the chrome parts without no harmful marks on the chrome, it  polishes the chrome. i'm working on a screen basket to put real greasey yucky parts in that i can spin in my wd40 solution with my drill to clean the parts and not get my fingers and work area real dirty, that will begin monday when i go to the dollar store. some times you get a reel that is filled with dirty thick grease.  i use a small meat baster like a hypodermic needle, with a large opening of the needle naturally, filled with grease to lube tight areas ,plus i like to put a dab of grease inside the hole of the escentric spring . i have a couple of things in the works, i'll post them when i'm done,  take care, thanks,  harryk
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: BMITCH on June 21, 2013, 05:37:39 PM
Harry, all great ideas. Thanks again for sharing. For really small parts I use a tea infuser. It's a small basket fine meshed item.
(http://i1278.photobucket.com/albums/y502/MITSERVCS/null_zpsa2efe056.jpg)
I drop it in my ultrasonic cleaner(search eBay) and don't worry about the small parts. Hope that helps.
Bob
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: harryk3616 on June 21, 2013, 05:42:43 PM
hi   bob     amazing, thats exactly what i'm looking for, i use a strainer with the parts in it and wash with an acid brush, i was going to try and rig two together to make exactly what you have shown, fantastic, i'll go to the store monday weather permitting with my scooter and buy one, thanks for the picture and the come back, my best  to you, harryk
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: Joel.B on June 21, 2013, 05:50:03 PM
Harry- please be sure to ALWAYS wear eye protection when using the wire wheels on dremels - they throw those wires off like darts and they can/will go deep into your eye.  I've pulled them from my face, arms, chest......


I have amazing eyesight- I can spot a bait-boil from miles away- I value my eyes so I wear eye protection whenever using any power tool

Harry, you should grab one of those cheap ultrasonic tanks from Ebay or harbor freight.  Mine is fancy "GUNSMITH" model with Lyman label on it- but almost sure the cheaper jobbers are same maker.     They work great at quickly removing green corrosion, grease, crud, rust.....

I use water with white vinegar for corroded reel parts
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: harryk3616 on June 21, 2013, 05:55:51 PM
hi    joel         thanks for responding,  yes you are 100% right, i do wear glasses ,but not protective ones, a couple of times later in the night, i have pulled wire strands from my hand or fingers, they embed them selves nicely, yes the eyes are most important.   i just looked on ebay for the tea infusers, i do think i'll look into the ultra sonic cleaners, thanks again, harryk
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: harryk3616 on June 21, 2013, 06:13:00 PM
hi   joel      i just saw a ultra sonic cleaner on line at harbor freight, a one pint capacity, is that large enough or should i go bigger?
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: Alto Mare on June 21, 2013, 08:47:59 PM
Harry, I'm not going against the guys here, I just want to mention what I use:
Simple Green, stiff nylon brush, stiff ss brush and a soft brass brush. I also have some fine and medium stainless steel wool .
I clean the grease off the plates with the a nylon brush and Simple Green, I'll then soak them for a day in another container filled with fresh Simple Grease.
Chromed parts get the same treatment, but I use a ss brush or brass brush, depending how bad they are. At times I will also use ss wool.
I do not mix brass parts with  chromed part, I clean then with a soft brass brush and soak them for a day in white distilled vinegar.
When I remove the parts from soaking them, I use another container and and pour the liquid through a strainer, so I can get the parts.
This has been working out for me, no ultra sonic. Just my 2 cents.
BTW, my reels look pretty ;)
Sal
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: BMITCH on June 21, 2013, 08:57:01 PM
I agree with Sal. The ultrasonic cleaner is NOT a must have. I have one for my work in repairing surveying instruments. So mine is a must have piece of equipment. If you do opt for getting one though I don't think you'll be disappointed.
Bob
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: harryk3616 on June 21, 2013, 09:32:51 PM
hi  sal  and   bob        sal i use a stiff nylon brush with wd40, maybe i should try the simple green.  i like your idea on cleaning the chrome parts, i appreciate all the input i receive and yes your reels a reel purdy,  thank you,  and  bob    i purchased a tea infuser from ebay for  $3.30 ,  free shipping, boy beats having to load up my scooter and go to the store, thank you  bob  and  sal.  gonna forget that ultra sonic cleaner.       harryk
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: Alto Mare on June 22, 2013, 12:51:28 AM
Harry, like you I use whatever I can find. Here are a couple of tools that I use to drain the parts;
A plastic container and a cheese basket:
(http://i1318.photobucket.com/albums/t646/pescatore2/001_zps18b1e4e0.jpg) (http://s1318.photobucket.com/user/pescatore2/media/001_zps18b1e4e0.jpg.html)
(http://i1318.photobucket.com/albums/t646/pescatore2/002_zpsb15cdc54.jpg) (http://s1318.photobucket.com/user/pescatore2/media/002_zpsb15cdc54.jpg.html)
You already know how to get creative ;)
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: harryk3616 on June 22, 2013, 01:01:54 AM
sal    how can ya go wrong with polly-o  and yummy ricotta,  gotta be innovative like you say, thanks buddy
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: Dominick on June 22, 2013, 02:41:36 AM
Quote from: harryk3616 on June 22, 2013, 01:01:54 AM
sal    how can ya go wrong with polly-o  and yummy ricotta,  gotta be innovative like you say, thanks buddy
You are right Harry, good Ricotta and then Italian Tupperware.  Life is good.  ;D  Dominick
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: harryk3616 on June 22, 2013, 02:50:38 AM
yes    dom       my mom was italian  and my wife is italian, and i know how to munga
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: Joel.B on June 22, 2013, 04:23:01 PM
sonic-cleaner certainly not a must have- just makes life much much easier, and it saves mucho time. I have lots of nerve damage, numbness, its hard for me to handle all the little screws and parts, cleaning them each individually with a brush would take all day.

It will knock the rust and grime out from inside of teeth, threads, little holes....in minutes, all while I am working on something else.

I also use an electrolysis tank for steel parts, made it myself with battery charger.  you should see what the gnarliest rusted steel gears look like when they come out . 
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: harryk3616 on June 22, 2013, 04:29:09 PM
good morning   joel          thanks for the info
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: BMITCH on June 22, 2013, 04:49:02 PM
Joel, I'm very interested in the electrolysis tank you made?? Any chane of some pics and instructions.

Bob
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: Joel.B on June 22, 2013, 05:05:29 PM
Quote from: BMITCH on June 22, 2013, 04:49:02 PM
Joel, I'm very interested in the electrolysis tank you made?? Any chane of some pics and instructions.

Bob

here is a quick google result that covers the bases pretty well

http://www.myfordtractors.com/electrolysis.shtml

Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: Norcal Pescador on June 24, 2013, 05:34:30 PM
Harry, you are truly crafty in a good way. ;)  I like your innovative tools and hardware.
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: BMITCH on June 25, 2013, 02:29:05 AM
Quote from: Joel.B on June 22, 2013, 05:05:29 PM
Quote from: BMITCH on June 22, 2013, 04:49:02 PM
Joel, I'm very interested in the electrolysis tank you made?? Any chane of some pics and instructions.

Bob

here is a quick google result that covers the bases pretty well

http://www.myfordtractors.com/electrolysis.shtml
Thanks Joel, way cool 8)
Bob

Title: More Homemade Line Winders
Post by: spize909 on July 21, 2013, 06:59:50 PM
I found myself without help to get some new line on my reels before the last trip so I decided to look around the garage to see what I could come up with. I had some steel plates that are used for block walls (Proto Walls) and they looked to fit the bill. Those and a 3/8" (might have been 5/16") bolt completed what I would need to get the basic part done.
I couldn't find the right spring right away so I used a short section of rubber fuel hose for tension.
(http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/spizejeff/ovendogslinewinder008.jpg) (http://s438.photobucket.com/user/spizejeff/media/ovendogslinewinder008.jpg.html)
I have been gathering stuff to be able to do my own powder coating and finally got it all together. I thought the line winder would be a great thing to experiment on. I also coated a star drag for my 505.

I used the lower part of the oven as the spray booth.
(http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/spizejeff/PowderCoat001.jpg) (http://s438.photobucket.com/user/spizejeff/media/PowderCoat001.jpg.html)
(http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/spizejeff/PowderCoat003.jpg) (http://s438.photobucket.com/user/spizejeff/media/PowderCoat003.jpg.html)
(http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/spizejeff/PowderCoat006.jpg) (http://s438.photobucket.com/user/spizejeff/media/PowderCoat006.jpg.html)
Title: Re: More Homemade Line Winders
Post by: spize909 on July 21, 2013, 07:57:55 PM
Put the star on the reel.
I may PC the rings, the handle and the gear lever (blank on what it's called). My rods are all wrapped black and orange............I can't see putting orange on a reel but it should would stand out when I need to find it ;D
(http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/spizejeff/505stardrag002.jpg) (http://s438.photobucket.com/user/spizejeff/media/505stardrag002.jpg.html)
(http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/spizejeff/505stardrag001.jpg) (http://s438.photobucket.com/user/spizejeff/media/505stardrag001.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Homemade Line Winder
Post by: Alto Mare on July 21, 2013, 11:43:23 PM
Very creative, spize. Thanks for sharing.
Sal
Title: Re: Homemade Line Winder
Post by: spize909 on July 22, 2013, 02:21:14 AM
Thanks, I learned from my Grandpa.
I got all kinds of junk........ah stuff in the garage that I can pick from when I need to make something. The wife don't really get it but every now and then I can point at something and say "see, that's why I keep that crap".
Title: Re: Homemade Line Winder
Post by: Dominick on July 22, 2013, 03:23:10 AM
There is no end to the talent on this site.  Thanks for showing us.  Dominick
Title: Re: Homemade Line Winder
Post by: alantani on July 22, 2013, 05:17:49 AM
well done!
Title: Re: Homemade Line Winder
Post by: doradoben on July 22, 2013, 05:30:06 PM
Simple & heavy duty. I like it.
Title: Re: Homemade Line Winder
Post by: edgarz on July 23, 2013, 04:09:37 AM
Very practical. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Homemade Line Winder
Post by: CapeFish on July 23, 2013, 07:12:16 AM
I have also made one, very easy and robust, but I just can't get the photobucket thing right,
Title: Re: Homemade Line Winder
Post by: Bill B on July 24, 2013, 05:18:53 AM
You have a talent there spize...thanks for sharing....btw how hot did you have to get the oven (i'm assuming it's electric) to cure the powder coat?
Title: Re: Homemade Line Winder
Post by: Norcal Pescador on July 24, 2013, 07:15:21 PM
Mine is pretty primitive, too, but I had to actually go buy stuff to make it. :-\

Mine is made from PVC and galvanized pipe, and a bit of hardware.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-RPpik4RA5aE/UfAcTKtYOEI/AAAAAAAAAD4/s9tY9wEAA6w/s640/IMG_0097.JPG)
The parts laid out. 1/2" x 18" galvanized pipe, 2 slip x slip 3/4"PVC elbows, 2 1/2" threaded x 3/4" slip PVC elbows, section of 3/4" PVC pipe (thick-walled!),  4 hose clamps.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-PtG8oW4jm00/UfAchHMlodI/AAAAAAAAAEA/u9nH5XVn3Y8/s640/IMG_0099.JPG)
Screw the threaded x slip fittings on tight. Cut short sections of PVC pipe for the risers and insert to make sure the threaded elbows are lined up. Remove the risers and make sure the slip elbows are lined up when you start gluing. Glue the top part together, then glue into the bottom part.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-pnZF9mT9t84/UfAeNjfIxaI/AAAAAAAAAFE/FW3Qw3XD-00/s640/IMG_0106.JPG)
Found a piece of scrap aluminum, a 3/8" x 6" bolt, and some nuts to make the spool holder. I use 2 hose clamps to secure it.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-GbhkBXlqhqE/UfAeF8a8gnI/AAAAAAAAAE8/uCBrZSWdRkE/s640/IMG_0105.JPG)
Use it to spool up a reel........

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-WJbBC1ZYFNQ/UfAd5IifozI/AAAAAAAAAEs/tRiVxUkhWbY/s640/IMG_0102.JPG)
... or to transfer line from one reel to another for whatever reason.

For drag, I use either a couple of nylon or CF washers between two fender washers on both sides of the spool and double nuts to keep the drag from changing. The spring didn't work too well on heavier line, but it's okay up to about 10-pound test.

If you want, put a reel on and spool some line on under a good drag load and see how much the stand flexes. Now do the same with the rod clamp on.  :o  Very enlightening.

Cheers!

Title: Re: Homemade Line Winder
Post by: BMITCH on July 24, 2013, 11:47:16 PM
These are all excellent!! Thanks for posting pics. Someone should start a thread where everyone could post there own version of line winder. Not that I need to build one now or anything. ::) ::) just looking for ideas. These are great.
Bob
Title: Re: Homemade Line Winder
Post by: Norcal Pescador on July 24, 2013, 11:54:19 PM
Quote from: BMITCH on July 24, 2013, 11:47:16 PM
.... Someone should start a thread where everyone could post there own version of line winder. Not that I need to build one now or anything. ::) ::) .....
Bob

Go for it, Bob! ;D ;D 

I figured one that clamps in a vise would work best for me as my workbench isn't real big and there's the eternal list of honey-dos. :-\
Title: Re: Homemade Line Winder
Post by: spize909 on July 25, 2013, 03:43:17 AM
Good stuff.
You can see that the original use was just held to the bench with a spring clamp. After PCing it and making it all pretty I screwed it down in an out of the way spot with some brass screws.......might just pc those too.
As for temp it was 400 degrees for about 10 minutes per the powder directions. From what I understand different powder "cooks/cures"? at different temps and times.
I'm kinda on the lookout for some kind of small motor.......I'd love to automate this thing. Not that I need to change my line all that much with the paltry amount of fishing I seem to do anymore, I'd just like to do it for fun.
Any ideas on a small salvage motor that would spin fast enough?
Title: Re: Homemade Line Winder
Post by: spize909 on July 25, 2013, 03:45:30 AM
Quote from: Norcal Pescador on July 24, 2013, 11:54:19 PM
Quote from: BMITCH on July 24, 2013, 11:47:16 PM
.... Someone should start a thread where everyone could post there own version of line winder. Not that I need to build one now or anything. ::) ::) .....
Bob

Go for it, Bob! ;D ;D 

I figured one that clamps in a vise would work best for me as my workbench isn't real big and there's the eternal list of honey-dos. :-\

I like the idea of some drag washers for tension.......
Title: Line winder
Post by: BMITCH on July 25, 2013, 11:54:23 AM
Ok. Looking to get some feedback/info on line winders. I've seen some really nice homemade units here and I'm in the mode of trying to plan one out. Any pics,plans or comments would be welcome. I would really like to build one possibly with a drill mounted to power wind. So come on folks....show your winders :o :o
Bob
Title: Re: Line winder
Post by: harryk3616 on July 25, 2013, 01:36:29 PM
hi    bob      on page #2 in the photo gallery, i showed pictures of a line winder i made with a mounted drill.  best regards   harryk
Title: Re: Line winder
Post by: Norcal Pescador on July 25, 2013, 05:45:47 PM
Okay, I moved and merged them. :-\  The topic names are a bit of a mess but I'll work on it.

Now before we go any further with this, is this merger okay with the innovative three: harryk, spize and BMITCH?

If everyone's happy, I'll also edit out the no-longer-relevant posts.
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: BMITCH on July 25, 2013, 06:14:15 PM
Works for me ;)
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: harryk3616 on July 25, 2013, 06:40:56 PM
pescador           sorry don't follow you,  i have no problem with anything, i'm cool with everything and everyone.   best  regards   harry
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: Norcal Pescador on July 25, 2013, 08:32:01 PM
Quote from: harryk3616 on July 25, 2013, 06:40:56 PM
pescador           sorry don't follow you,  i have no problem with anything, i'm cool with everything and everyone.   best  regards   harry

Just wanted to make sure it was okay with all concerned that I combined the other topics into yours.
Rob
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: spize909 on July 26, 2013, 01:54:46 AM
I was kind of happy with my own deal but being an FNG I'll take what ever abuse you got to dig out. ;D
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: spize909 on July 27, 2013, 03:16:29 AM
So I'm driving home from work today and I pass the neighbors house and out with his trash is an upright fan.....no blades, just the motor and the stand. I had to head out so I didn't get a chance to test to see if the motor works or not but I thin I found the other half to my line winder if it does.
It's already got a hole in the shaft that I can drill out a little more to run a bar through to catch the reel handle, just have to see if it will have enough torque to turn the reel with some tension on it.'
No pics, I got home loaded fishing gear and kid and headed south to Oceanside to get up and go fish in the morning in SD. I will take some pics and play with it on Sunday.
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: Ron Jones on July 27, 2013, 04:08:52 AM
Lucky SOB,
I love OceanSide. Where you fishin'?
Ron
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: spize909 on July 28, 2013, 09:36:29 PM
Quote from: noyb72 on July 27, 2013, 04:08:52 AM
Lucky SOB,
I love OceanSide. Where you fishin'?
Ron
We actually drove down (from the in-laws in Oceanside)to San Diego to fish on the Mission Belle out of Pt Loma. My sister cooks on the boat so I go to see her and of course fish.
Fishing wasn't too good. Some rockfish and 2 yellowtail with a few lost. Between the pelicans and seals it's tough fishin' at the Coronados and just seems to get worse.

I got home and stripped the motor out of that fan and it works. I think with a dial type light dimmer I can regulate speed. I already got a piece of 1/8" bar stock and ran it through the main shaft to turn the reel handle.
Easy part's done. Figuring how to mount it all up is going to take some brain cells.
I may look for an old rod to canibalize for the reel seat. I know on a commercial machine that also adjust up and down to meet the center of the winder motor to the reel.
I also need to figure a way to turn a spool to strip line. To me that's the biggest pain in the #### anyway.
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: harryk3616 on July 28, 2013, 10:36:47 PM
hi   spize  909      check my pictures, i made a spool holder out of thin square wood mounted to a small piece of 1x2 so it adjusts to different size spools, plus i made a line stripper with two funnels,  the two funnels mount large size opposite each other, one is cut down to slide over the other one, a 1/4 threaded rod with fender washers and a spring to hold tension to keep them together, strip the line, take it apart and your left with a hank of line to dispose, i use a cordless drill for both applications,   good luck, it's not hard to make,     harryk
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: spize909 on July 29, 2013, 12:57:31 AM
Quote from: harryk3616 on July 28, 2013, 10:36:47 PM
hi   spize  909      check my pictures, i made a spool holder out of thin square wood mounted to a small piece of 1x2 so it adjusts to different size spools, plus i made a line stripper with two funnels,  the two funnels mount large size opposite each other, one is cut down to slide over the other one, a 1/4 threaded rod with fender washers and a spring to hold tension to keep them together, strip the line, take it apart and your left with a hank of line to dispose, i use a cordless drill for both applications,   good luck, it's not hard to make,     harryk

I like the idea of the funnels. I have something now that I put in the cordless but it's basically like a straight dowell so it was not easy removing the line. The good thing was it was big enough that I stripped my reels many times before worring about it.
What I want is something to attach to the motor. The one side has the rod to catch the reel handle but the other side has part of the shaft extending out as well. It has some threads that were used to turn the worm gear to make the fan oscillate. I need to basically tap something to screw onto that that is tapered to use for the stripper.

I did find that the fan was spinning the wrong direction. I though swapping the wires would fix it but it did not. Maybe that because it is ac and not dc............I'm not much for electrical knowledge.
So.......I opened it up and found that I could reverse the shaft so the ends stick out the other sides.

Hears some pics of what I have so far and for Nor Cal Pescador, I see you are a member of the Oceanside Senior Anglers. I included a pic of my father in law with a Cow Cod (mex waters) caught yesterday. He has been a member for a couple years now. Wish I would have took the pic when ift first came out but it was a nice fish and the only cow caught.
(http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/spizejeff/005-8.jpg) (http://s438.photobucket.com/user/spizejeff/media/005-8.jpg.html)
(http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/spizejeff/006-2.jpg) (http://s438.photobucket.com/user/spizejeff/media/006-2.jpg.html)
(http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/spizejeff/009-3.jpg) (http://s438.photobucket.com/user/spizejeff/media/009-3.jpg.html)
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Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: spize909 on August 05, 2013, 01:32:30 AM
I was able to find an hour or so to work on this a little. I bought a few thing I had thought of on the way home the other night and got to do some work on it today.

I got a prefab tapered table leg to use on the stripper side and screwed it onto the wormdrive threads on the other side of the motor. Then I removed the little plastic foot thing, drilled it out and put a hanger bolt in it (wood threads on one side, machine 1/4-20 on the other). I couldn't find a great big fender washer so I used the biggest hole saw bit I had and drilled a piece of aluminum for the end. I will need bigger but it may work for now and either way it keeps the wheels in my head turning.

I cut a couple pieces of 3/4" squre tube and welded the motor onto one of them and then ran some carriage bolts up through the bottom of a piece of ply (just for mock-up) to see how it would all go together. I used an old 500s for the mockup and spacing and then realized that I needed adjustment on the distance as well. I may use some 1/8" steel to mount it all on and slot the holes so I can slide the holder for the reels cloer or further from the motor.
I think on the commercial units the "T" shaft just slides into a hex shaped hole and can move in or out to accomodate any reel.
I'm open to ideas on this but I am close. I'm going to wire it up this week with a dimmer for speed control and should be able to test it out.
(http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/spizejeff/LineWinder2001.jpg) (http://s438.photobucket.com/user/spizejeff/media/LineWinder2001.jpg.html)
(http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/spizejeff/LineWinder2002.jpg) (http://s438.photobucket.com/user/spizejeff/media/LineWinder2002.jpg.html)
(http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/spizejeff/LineWinder2003.jpg) (http://s438.photobucket.com/user/spizejeff/media/LineWinder2003.jpg.html)
(http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/spizejeff/LineWinder2004.jpg) (http://s438.photobucket.com/user/spizejeff/media/LineWinder2004.jpg.html)
Appetizers............ ;D
(http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/spizejeff/013-3.jpg) (http://s438.photobucket.com/user/spizejeff/media/013-3.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: harryk3616 on August 05, 2013, 03:14:31 AM
hi   spize909        looks great, nice job, just hope the fan motor has enough torque to turn the reel as you apply tension while winding the line on,if not , your pretty much there, you might have to replace the fan motor with a variable speed drill.  hope the fan motor works, great job .    harryk
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: spize909 on August 05, 2013, 01:37:44 PM
Quote from: harryk3616 on August 05, 2013, 03:14:31 AM
hi   spize909        looks great, nice job, just hope the fan motor has enough torque to turn the reel as you apply tension while winding the line on,if not , your pretty much there, you might have to replace the fan motor with a variable speed drill.  hope the fan motor works, great job .    harryk

I think it will....it has to take some effort to turn a fan. I tried stopping it when I was testing it and it seemed pretty strong. We'll see.
Any ideas on adjustment side to side and a good system to hold the reel?
I went to Kenny's Rod and Reel (my local shop) and checked out their winder so I got a couple ideas on holding the reel.
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: spize909 on August 06, 2013, 02:07:10 AM
I wired it up when I got home today with the "ol round knob style" light dimme switch and it worked well. I did not put any line on as I am still tweaking that side of it but I did strip the line off of that Jigmaster. I put it in gear and put some drag on it. It doesn't have much torque at start-up but once it gets going it's fine.
Harry inspired me with a reel clamp idea so I should be more or less dialed in on the next round of working on it.
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: spize909 on August 17, 2013, 04:13:20 AM
Quote from: harryk3616 on August 05, 2013, 03:14:31 AM
hi   spize909        looks great, nice job, just hope the fan motor has enough torque to turn the reel as you apply tension while winding the line on,if not , your pretty much there, you might have to replace the fan motor with a variable speed drill.  hope the fan motor works, great job .    harryk
Well Harry, you were right. that motor lacked the torque needed to put the line on. I stripped a couple reels and put some pretty good tension on the spool while stripping and it did fine but I think turning that handle with the shaft and the rod on the shaft uses the energy in a different way. I knew it would lag some but thought it would be fine. I did one reel and knew it wasn't tight enough.
There is some kind of relay(nope, it's a capacitor. I just googled it)....is there anything I can do to get more juice to this motor? Wires are 16 ga at best.

Here's a couple pics. It sure strips the line good. Real bummed out but heading out on the Freedom Wednesday for a 1.5 day so that should cheer me up some ;D

(http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/spizejeff/LineWinder001.jpg) (http://s438.photobucket.com/user/spizejeff/media/LineWinder001.jpg.html)
(http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/spizejeff/LineWinder002.jpg) (http://s438.photobucket.com/user/spizejeff/media/LineWinder002.jpg.html)
(http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/spizejeff/LineWinder003.jpg) (http://s438.photobucket.com/user/spizejeff/media/LineWinder003.jpg.html)
(http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/spizejeff/LineWinder004.jpg) (http://s438.photobucket.com/user/spizejeff/media/LineWinder004.jpg.html)
(http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/spizejeff/LineWinder005.jpg) (http://s438.photobucket.com/user/spizejeff/media/LineWinder005.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: harryk3616 on August 17, 2013, 05:17:32 AM
good evening spiez          everything looks reely great, very nice job,  your almost there a stronger motor and your in business, very neat i like it.  harryk
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: Mandelstam on August 17, 2013, 08:48:27 AM
Anyone ever made a good line winder for spinning reels? I'm tired of putting pressure on the line with my fingers and I don't want the line twisted... I was thinking of clamping the line before it goes on to the spool but I'm afraid of getting to much friction and heat...
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: Newell Nut on August 17, 2013, 09:29:13 AM
Try a garbage disposal motor. They have lots of power.
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: Alto Mare on August 17, 2013, 01:07:39 PM
I like the way you think spize, very creative ;).
Some might say, you have over $20 of bolts and brackets alone, that's not what this is about.
Get yourself a stronger motor and you're set.
Keep your ideas coming.
Sal
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: spize909 on August 17, 2013, 02:18:04 PM
Quote from: Newell Nut on August 17, 2013, 09:29:13 AM
Try a garbage disposal motor. They have lots of power.
hmmmm........I am remodeling the kitchen as we speak and the garbage disposal will be replaced with the new sink and will be coming out this week, meaning I have something to tear apart and tinker with. Thanks for the idea!
I wonder how speed control will be. I am likely going to end up with a drill but I am trying to keep costs down and creativity up.
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: spize909 on August 17, 2013, 02:22:07 PM
Quote from: Alto Mare on August 17, 2013, 01:07:39 PM
I like the way you think spize, very creative ;).
Some might say, you have over $20 of bolts and brackets alone, that's not what this is about.
Get yourself a stronger motor and you're set.
Keep your ideas coming.
Sal


Yeah maybe......about $20. Maybe more, the dimmer was like 8 bucks and the 3/4 steel was 4 or 5 bucks and I still need some 1" steel to finish the reel clamp but that should be coming free from my steel guy at work.
Like you said, that's not what it's about.
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: RowdyW on August 17, 2013, 05:01:27 PM
Try Harbor Freight for a battery powered drill. They usually have one on sale every month, usually under 20 bucks.    Rudy
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: harryk3616 on August 17, 2013, 06:04:44 PM
harbor freight drills are decent and cheap, got two of them, the battery life after awhile stinks, they don;t last long, having two of them i always have one to charge while i'm using the other. the  craftsman drills i have are much better. spooling lie on the reels, power drills have the strength and do a much better job.  i use a variable speed one, but like spiez used a dimmer switch might work as well.
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: spize909 on August 17, 2013, 06:58:34 PM
I will use a corded drill......I'm not running the risk of being under-powered again. The garbage disposal motor is still gonna get a look too.
I got an old 1/2 drill that I'm going to try. I'm going to keep the other motor with the tapered table leg attachment and just mount it to the work bench for stripping only. It works too good to trash.
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: harryk3616 on August 17, 2013, 08:04:58 PM
i agree, good move and good luck, i'm sure you got it now, your a handy fellow.  my best to you     harry
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: Cone on August 17, 2013, 11:23:02 PM
A sewing machine motor and foot pedal would be ideal if it has enough torque. Bob
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: spize909 on August 17, 2013, 11:41:27 PM
Quote from: Cone on August 17, 2013, 11:23:02 PM
A sewing machine motor and foot pedal would be ideal if it has enough torque. Bob
I'm worried it wouldn't have enough torque. Probably perfect for wrappin' rods or drying but I dont know about line winding.
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: harryk3616 on August 18, 2013, 12:21:16 AM
been there ,done that, foot pedal is great and the sewing machine motor is good for wrapping rods, but it's not strong enough to wind line on a reel tight.  i used a barbeque motor to spin the rods after applying rod finish on them.
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: spize909 on August 18, 2013, 09:18:49 PM
Well, this is what we ended up with. I got my old 1/2 drill out and clamped her onto a piece of 3/4x3/4 with a big u-bolt. I scored the case a little and put some JB type stuff on it to just feel a little more secore about it sliding out.
I did a couple reels, it worked well but started melting the plastic on the 1/4 lb spool. I fixed that with some different washers.
(http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/spizejeff/LineWinderwithdrillmotor002.jpg) (http://s438.photobucket.com/user/spizejeff/media/LineWinderwithdrillmotor002.jpg.html)
and the other motor clamps in the bench vise to still strip line.
(http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/spizejeff/LineWinderwithdrillmotor003.jpg) (http://s438.photobucket.com/user/spizejeff/media/LineWinderwithdrillmotor003.jpg.html)
Couple more.......
(http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/spizejeff/LineWinderwithdrillmotor001.jpg) (http://s438.photobucket.com/user/spizejeff/media/LineWinderwithdrillmotor001.jpg.html)
(http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/spizejeff/LineWinderwithdrillmotor004.jpg) (http://s438.photobucket.com/user/spizejeff/media/LineWinderwithdrillmotor004.jpg.html)

I kind of like the little stripper attachment more than the winder. It would work in a cordless too.
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: harryk3616 on August 18, 2013, 10:21:04 PM
well,  you da man,  excellent job, good going, very nice.
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: spize909 on August 19, 2013, 10:47:33 PM
thanks Harry and thanks for some ideas on this thing. I'm getting my 1x1 tube to do the reel clamp tomorrow. I am going to just tap the steel itself and use thumb screws.
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: harryk3616 on August 20, 2013, 02:00:03 AM
great, excellent,  tight lines, lol
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: Jeto on August 20, 2013, 02:50:51 AM
spize,

can you post a pic of the current reel seat you're using? i'm building one right now and still have no reel seat. :)

thanks
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: spize909 on August 20, 2013, 03:26:20 PM
Quote from: Jeto on August 20, 2013, 02:50:51 AM
spize,

can you post a pic of the current reel seat you're using? i'm building one right now and still have no reel seat. :)

thanks
current reel seat is 2 hose clamps ::)
I am getting what I need today to improve on that.
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: Cone on August 20, 2013, 06:58:31 PM
Nice job! Another idea for a motor would be a treadmill motor and speed control. There are a lot of those around. People like using them for clothes hangers.  ;)   Bob
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: Eric Hensel on March 12, 2014, 12:01:13 AM
I know I'm late to the party, but using a standard light dimmer explains where all your torque went --it essentially wastes the amperage before it gets to the motor (which is designed to run in a narrow range) Notice that fans have 2 or speeds that only vary a small amount. If you turn the control  down until the motor stalls --it will sit there and overheat, eventually burning your house down. ;). It is not a good idea to do this.
Also that's a small "shaded-pole" AC motor (I think --this isn't my field) --not a true single-phase; which locks onto the current pulses (60cps in the 'States) at a fixed speed and will likely burn up if you tried this.
The folks suggesting DC (battery; portable drills) variable-speed motors have the right idea, because they have circuitry designed to maintain torque as the speed drops.
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: trekgod3 on April 09, 2014, 08:21:26 PM
Here's a line spooler I just built. I got the idea from instructibles.com.

(http://lakecityquietpills.com/photo/multihost/viewer.php?file=08890688486851922076.jpg)

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Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: Bryan Young on April 09, 2014, 10:40:29 PM
Sorry, I tried fixing the post because I wanted to see the pics, but I cannot even pull it up on the web.
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: trekgod3 on April 10, 2014, 01:12:30 AM
what do you mean? the picture shows up just fine....

Here's a direct link:
http://www.lakecityquietpills.com/photo/multihost/images/08890688486851922076.jpg

Here's a link to the instructible I based it on:
http://www.instructables.com/id/Cheap-Fishing-Line-Winder/?ALLSTEPS
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: Alto Mare on April 10, 2014, 01:22:53 AM
Very nice Treckgod and you even rounded the edges ;D. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: Keta on April 10, 2014, 03:11:41 AM
(http://cdn.instructables.com/FSR/KG80/GFMC8AB5/FSRKG80GFMC8AB5.LARGE.jpg)
Title: Re: my homemade reel working tools
Post by: johnachak on April 24, 2014, 01:32:31 AM
Quote from: harryk3616 on June 03, 2013, 11:07:11 PM
hi    bob      i figured why put extra wear and tear on the reel, stripping the line, if the reel is apart its a cinch.

Excellent idea for sure! Do you have several different sizes or does that one size pretty much stretch to fit most spools? Does the wood jig "Burn" the tips of the spool shafts?
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: feeder on June 29, 2015, 05:53:33 PM
Got sick of manually winding on my line and decided to build a winder to go with a new spooler I bought after seeing someone build one of their own. Still needs a little work, but it's nearly done.

Original design I was using:
http://i0.wp.com/shinyinsanity.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/si_winder_01.jpg (http://i0.wp.com/shinyinsanity.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/si_winder_01.jpg)

New Build:
http://i2.wp.com/shinyinsanity.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/si_winder_22.jpg (http://i2.wp.com/shinyinsanity.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/si_winder_22.jpg)

Build process:
http://shinyinsanity.com/homemade-line-winder-preservative-free/

Video of it in action:
https://youtu.be/E5fcMK7QrC0
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: foakes on June 29, 2015, 06:54:20 PM
Beautiful job, feeder --

That is clever, well engineered, simple -- and looks tough.

Nice explanation.

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: feeder on June 29, 2015, 07:11:50 PM
Quote from: foakes on June 29, 2015, 06:54:20 PM
Beautiful job, feeder --

That is clever, well engineered, simple -- and looks tough.

Nice explanation.

Best,

Fred

Thanks Fred. I appreciate that.
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: Tightlines667 on June 29, 2015, 08:35:09 PM
Nice!

Have you considered having someone produce a small run of these and offering them up for sale?  I think there is definately a market for spooling machines that don't require tapping into one's home equity line of credit.

Just a thought.
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: Tiddlerbasher on June 30, 2015, 10:10:28 AM
Lovely job :) How difficult was the anodising? I keep meaning to try it as I have a lot of aluminium projects.

When I built my line winder I used a variable speed 36v dc e-bike motor. To up the torque and lower the revs (180rpm final) i used small timing pulleys - Can wind with 20lb of drag if necessary. In practice 8-10lb of drag is all you will need for braid. To get the drag I used a lever drag principal - very consistant. The level wind was a re-cycled sic rod tip - keeps the hand away from the moving bits ;)

(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b521/Tiddlerbasher/Line%20spooler/1_zps4bef5e13.jpg) (http://s1290.photobucket.com/user/Tiddlerbasher/media/Line%20spooler/1_zps4bef5e13.jpg.html)

(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b521/Tiddlerbasher/Line%20spooler/10_zps7d5c465e.jpg) (http://s1290.photobucket.com/user/Tiddlerbasher/media/Line%20spooler/10_zps7d5c465e.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: swill88 on June 30, 2015, 10:29:36 AM
Quote from: Tightlines666 on June 29, 2015, 08:35:09 PM
Nice!

Have you considered having someone produce a small run of these and offering them up for sale?  I think there is definately a market for spooling machines that don't require tapping into one's home equity line of credit.

Just a thought.


a really good thought!
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: feeder on July 01, 2015, 02:54:45 AM
Quote from: swill88 on June 30, 2015, 10:29:36 AM
Quote from: Tightlines666 on June 29, 2015, 08:35:09 PM
Nice!

Have you considered having someone produce a small run of these and offering them up for sale?  I think there is definately a market for spooling machines that don't require tapping into one's home equity line of credit.

Just a thought.


a really good thought!

Thanks guys. Actually it's not too hard to create and there are some already on the market similar to this already. The main thing is the drill holder and the spooler. The spooler can be bought for a little over a $130 and the rest can be made if you have some basic tools and keep an eye out for aluminum scrap sales. Trust me, if I can make this anyone can.
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: feeder on July 01, 2015, 03:08:43 AM
Quote from: Tiddlerbasher on June 30, 2015, 10:10:28 AM
Lovely job :) How difficult was the anodising? I keep meaning to try it as I have a lot of aluminium projects.

When I built my line winder I used a variable speed 36v dc e-bike motor. To up the torque and lower the revs (180rpm final) i used small timing pulleys - Can wind with 20lb of drag if necessary. In practice 8-10lb of drag is all you will need for braid. To get the drag I used a lever drag principal - very consistant. The level wind was a re-cycled sic rod tip - keeps the hand away from the moving bits ;)

(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b521/Tiddlerbasher/Line%20spooler/1_zps4bef5e13.jpg) (http://s1290.photobucket.com/user/Tiddlerbasher/media/Line%20spooler/1_zps4bef5e13.jpg.html)

(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b521/Tiddlerbasher/Line%20spooler/10_zps7d5c465e.jpg) (http://s1290.photobucket.com/user/Tiddlerbasher/media/Line%20spooler/10_zps7d5c465e.jpg.html)


That is slick. I'm curious about the lever drag mechanism. Do you have anymore pics with how it's setup? I'll be honest, I'm looking to see if I can steal it and  recreate it for fun :D

The anodizing was easier than I thought. Cleanliness on your part is a huge factor and taking the time to figure the surface area really helps takes the guesswork out. I wrote a little guide about it a little while back in case anyone wanted to see how I went about it. It's probably got some gaps but gives an idea of the general process for home use. Part 1 deals with supplies and general setup. Part 2 has the formulas and a link to a calculator you can use to get the time and amperage you need to run the parts for.

Part 1 http://shinyinsanity.com/aluminum-anodizing-part-1/ (http://shinyinsanity.com/aluminum-anodizing-part-1/)

Part 2 http://shinyinsanity.com/aluminum-anodizing-part-2/ (http://shinyinsanity.com/aluminum-anodizing-part-2/)
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: jonnou on July 01, 2015, 05:34:17 AM
That is a great machine Feeder!! Just thinking things like this would make great Kitsets Using a combination of manufactured and available parts. Lots of people have some but not all of the skills to produce a beast like that . Well done and I love the anodising Great Job!
Best Jon
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: Tiddlerbasher on July 01, 2015, 09:10:55 AM
Feeder - You can find a description here on the 2nd page :)

http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=11452.0
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: feeder on July 02, 2015, 02:02:46 AM
Quote from: jonnou on July 01, 2015, 05:34:17 AM
That is a great machine Feeder!! Just thinking things like this would make great Kitsets Using a combination of manufactured and available parts. Lots of people have some but not all of the skills to produce a beast like that . Well done and I love the anodising Great Job!
Best Jon

Thank a lot Jon. I appreciate it.  The most tedious part was all the drilling without a drill press. It just takes some time and patience but I believe a lot of people could do this.
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: feeder on July 02, 2015, 02:03:43 AM
Quote from: Tiddlerbasher on July 01, 2015, 09:10:55 AM
Feeder - You can find a description here on the 2nd page :)

http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=11452.0

Thanks. That is very creative and well designed.
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: Dirtydeeds on September 16, 2015, 02:24:37 PM
Wow impressive talent and work. After looking around on this site a bit, I decided to make my own IAR bearing remover/installer tool with the end of rv propane tank connector, took big plastic hand nut off and removed hose and thought this will work it was strait shaft with mushroom head on it with barbed end to go in hose. Will use drill press as lathe to cut it and use drill press for arbor press to remove bearings. Used file for cutting tooth and it worked really well I might add. Took about 1/2 hour to make it.
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: foakes on September 16, 2015, 02:41:32 PM
Very ingenious, DD.

Best,

Fred
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: Tiddlerbasher on September 16, 2015, 03:40:00 PM
Sweet - good idea.
Do you get enough grunt, from a drill press, to shift an Ambassador AR bearing?
I found I needed an arbor press (with an appropriately sized socket).
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: Dirtydeeds on September 16, 2015, 05:29:40 PM
Quote from: Tiddlerbasher on September 16, 2015, 03:40:00 PM
Sweet - good idea.
Do you get enough grunt, from a drill press, to shift an Ambassador AR bearing?
I found I needed an arbor press (with an appropriately sized socket).


[Tiddler yes there was enough to punch it out no problem but I was shocked at how much force it took to push a tiny bearing out like that. I did use a 9/16 socket on the out side it sat on the second ring nice and tight.]
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: Tiddlerbasher on September 16, 2015, 05:36:14 PM
Yep them suckers can be reel tight  :D
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: Dirtydeeds on September 16, 2015, 05:50:10 PM
Heres my homemade red neck rod holder for the pontoon boat it holds 8 rods in a circle pattern its ugly but it works and in the middle I keep my telescopic aluminum pole with hook slid down the center post from the top. I also have a shreks head off a shrek doll to cover the center post when pole hook not in center. Grandkids love the shrek head ahaha.
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: steelfish on May 27, 2016, 01:23:39 AM
forget the rod holder, I really like the floatation tubes/devices on the rods, what did you used?



I see a money saver on them, I was about to lost my trini16 few years ago when I have the rod on my hands and leave it for 3 seconds to take something on the boat, fish took the lure and took my rod for a dive, well almost did it, my at friend at the end of the panga was fast enough to take the rod when it was on it way to the deep sea.

Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: gstours on October 04, 2017, 04:46:07 PM
Sorry ,  Harry I couldnt view any pictures from this post,   says no 3rd party hosting.   Hope your doing well up there!! ???
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: spize909 on July 22, 2018, 10:24:22 PM
Quote from: spize909 on August 18, 2013, 09:18:49 PM
Well, this is what we ended up with. I got my old 1/2 drill out and clamped her onto a piece of 3/4x3/4 with a big u-bolt. I scored the case a little and put some JB type stuff on it to just feel a little more secore about it sliding out.
I did a couple reels, it worked well but started melting the plastic on the 1/4 lb spool. I fixed that with some different washers.
(http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/spizejeff/LineWinderwithdrillmotor002.jpg) (http://s438.photobucket.com/user/spizejeff/media/LineWinderwithdrillmotor002.jpg.html)
and the other motor clamps in the bench vise to still strip line.
(http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/spizejeff/LineWinderwithdrillmotor003.jpg) (http://s438.photobucket.com/user/spizejeff/media/LineWinderwithdrillmotor003.jpg.html)
Couple more.......
(http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/spizejeff/LineWinderwithdrillmotor001.jpg) (http://s438.photobucket.com/user/spizejeff/media/LineWinderwithdrillmotor001.jpg.html)
(http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/spizejeff/LineWinderwithdrillmotor004.jpg) (http://s438.photobucket.com/user/spizejeff/media/LineWinderwithdrillmotor004.jpg.html)

I kind of like the little stripper attachment more than the winder. It would work in a cordless too.
Stuff is still all working as designed........hard to get enough tension to do braid though. I can't put a hand on the spool, control the drill and put the line on straight all at the same time.
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: harryk3616 on July 23, 2018, 03:11:54 PM
looking good,  nice work your very innovative makes reel working a pleasure.   harryk
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: Gobi King on December 12, 2018, 05:33:23 PM
I am in the process of building my line winder, could you guys please help me with sourcing the components please:

1. Spool Holder with drag - Beez Kneez ($150), I have this and works very well, I have tried it at 5#s of drag only.
2. Motor with speed control - Enduro sewing machine motor with speed control ($110), I am impressed with the features and power, I plan to use a 5:1 pull to drive the reel winding arm. The motor will be set to run at 500 rpm and the arm will be at 100 rpm

3. Reel bracket - I called/emailed Pro Power Winder (one that Alan uses), for the quote on the just the Reel Bracket, it has been over 2 weeks, and I did not get a response yet. Who makes a reel bracket that I can use?
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: Tiddlerbasher on December 12, 2018, 10:38:41 PM
Gobi - I think you need to revisite the motor option. A sewing machine motor ain't gunner hunt - been there tried it, the t shirt don't fit ;)
Have a look at this link for ideas:
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=11452.msg110815#msg110815
There are many ideas on this site :)
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: oc1 on December 13, 2018, 06:04:18 AM
Every time I go to make something like that my son tells me it would be simpler and cheaper to use a servo motor with a programmable controller.  If I ever figure out what he's talking about I'll let you know.
-steve
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: Tiddlerbasher on December 13, 2018, 02:44:03 PM
 ;D ;D ;D

Servo motors are cool and can be very powerful but it's overkill and expensive. 24v or 36v e-bike motors are all you need - the power supply and control electronics are cheap.
I used tooth belt drives to lower the speed/increase the torque.
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: foakes on December 13, 2018, 05:06:58 PM
It sounds like you are set on building your own line winder from assorted components, Gobi — and I applaud that approach.

However, in this case, I wonder if you would not be ahead by buying a good used line-winder metering machine — starting from that point — and modifying it to suit your needs?

I have (3) winders I bought used, and (1) purchased new from my line supplier.

I was able to get a Trilene by Tri-Winder used HDII which will handle up to large Senators, Internationals, Shimanos, Okuma, etc. — used for $150, a few years ago.  It is pretty simple to modify to give the line-load numbers you will be looking for.

These already have the proper motors, controls, pulleys, line adjusters, reel mounts, etc.

You will likely spend $300 to $400 just in components that may or may not work satisfactorily when your project is completed.

There is much satisfaction in doing what you are doing — learning — and fun.  

But sometimes, even though you could build a car from scraps and pieces — it is better to just drive one.

If you search around, you can find used line metering loaders for bargain prices — might take a couple of weeks — but just the right one will come along.

Just my thoughts..


Best,

Fred
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: Gobi King on December 14, 2018, 02:45:16 PM
Chris
What is the watt rating on the 36v motor you have, I ask cuz I want to figure out how much is needed to make this work.

The sewing machine motor I was looking at is 3/4 hp,

https://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Consew-Energy-Industrial-Machine/dp/B06Y18VSR7

This is a brushless servo motor with electronic speed control.

Fred,
Yes Sir, I am not for reinventing the wheel. I have been trying to buy a used winder for years now, the local Ace hardware closed down their fishing dept, and I was in line to buy the winder but the owner kept it for himself. Then the gander mountain went out of business and I miss the winder by a few days.

Buying an item like this without trying it unseen makes me nervous, the new ones well outside my $$$ reach, hence I caved and bought the beez azz spool bracket  ;D
My rational was to get the best of breed parts and assemble a winder.

Nice collection of winders!

I have been spooling them by hand using the beez azzz but controlling the line lay and winding by hand using my kite rod was awkward to say the least.

At the minimum, I need a sturdy reel bracket to hold the reel and mount on a piece of plywood and wind with one hand and control the line lay with the other. This could be an interim solution till I find a HD used winder.

Used:
There is a Triangle Sports Super II Triwinder on ebay right now, about $600 with shipping, will this be powerful enough to load up those Mak 80w with 130# jb  for some cow blue gills in MI  ;D

Steve, I had to watch a whole bunch of youtube videos to get up to speed on the latest and greated off the shelf solutions for servo motors with speed control  :D

Any ideas where I can source a sturdy reel bracket, something like the pro power winder cam bracket

(http://www.propowerwinder.net/wp-content/themes/propower/images/slider1.jpg)
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: alantani on December 14, 2018, 04:19:43 PM
as is, this unit will not work.  here's mine.  it's an older version.  the clamp for the reel works best.  the version that you are looking at has a reel seat that is too light.  also, the motor is too small on yours.  it is literally the size of a soda can.  jim nomura changed out the motor for me.  he can likely still do this.  contact him at jnomura@pacbell.net

so for this winder, you will need to change out the brake material to greased carbon fiber, you will need to switch out the motor to a larger one third horse power size, and you will need to pray that the bracket for the reel holds up.  
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: Tiddlerbasher on December 14, 2018, 04:37:15 PM
Gobi - the motor you indicated is (IMHO) way too fast and too powerful. Bear in mind you will need to reduce the final drive speed to something sensible (4500rpm ain't a sensible speed 3/4 HP too much no need) - I opted for 3 revs per second at the reel (180 rpm). The motor I used was a 250 or 300 watt 36v (I can't remember which) - rated at approx. 2500rpm. Cost £21 from UK ebay. The spindle size on these motors is typically 8mm (I also used 8mm shafts in the rest of the drive train. To get the speed I wanted required approx. 12 to 14:1 reduction. I achieved this with a double tooth belt and pulleys arrangement. Ratios approx 3.666:1 - IIRC 12 tooth motor pulley and 44 tooth intermediate drive pulley followed by a similar 12/44 arrangemet for the final drive. Pulley and tooth belt specs were PB TYPE XL 037 1/5in pitch these are more than strong enough. All in cost, I think, was way under £100. The winder is still going strong :)
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: Gobi King on December 17, 2018, 10:04:22 PM
Alan,
Thanks, I emailed Jim for details on the motor. The reel bracket seems to be weak link in most of the them, I watched the "Team Hard Life" winding line on a 130 and it was wobbling all over.

The beesknees line spool holder has carbon fiber drag material I believe, though I am not sure if they greased with CALs. I bought it as the design seems pretty solid.

Chris,

That is what I thought too, but check out this video pls:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRlFIrOkXEc

I used to a bit of sewing and looks this is motor can be lowered to 500 rpm, with a 5:1 pully, 100 rpm will be possible,

300 watts is bit less than 1/2 hp,  wow, that is a lot of power out of a bike motor that runs on LI batts.

As Fred pointed out, it will simpler to pick up one of those used ones.

I think I will get a adhoc reel bracket going to pin the reel down so I can start spooling up the smaller reels by hand.

Title: Re: Homemade Line Winder
Post by: Glos on July 02, 2019, 09:17:54 AM
Quote from: Dominick on July 22, 2013, 03:23:10 AM
There is no end to the talent on this site.  Thanks for showing us.  Dominick

True. I regularly get stuck reading threads..
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: Htuong95 on July 18, 2020, 09:15:35 AM
My spool winder made from an old projector stand.

https://youtu.be/OBUbTmBX11I (https://youtu.be/OBUbTmBX11I)
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: sierraazuel on October 15, 2020, 06:01:38 PM
(//) Homemade wire tool.
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: Bill B on October 15, 2020, 08:17:55 PM
Good job on the winder.....Like your choice of handle.....Bill
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: oc1 on October 16, 2020, 04:23:12 AM
Nice looking leaders.
-steve
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: Tiddlerbasher on October 16, 2020, 09:03:53 AM
Great job :)
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: sierraazuel on October 21, 2020, 02:22:54 AM
Quote from: Bill B (Tarfu) on October 15, 2020, 08:17:55 PM
Good job on the winder.....Like your choice of handle.....Bill

Thank you Bill!
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: sierraazuel on October 21, 2020, 02:23:46 AM
Quote from: oc1 on October 16, 2020, 04:23:12 AM
Nice looking leaders.
-steve

Thank you Steve!
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: sierraazuel on October 21, 2020, 02:24:56 AM
Quote from: Tiddlerbasher on October 16, 2020, 09:03:53 AM
Great job :)

Thank you Chris!
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: happyhooker on October 21, 2020, 03:08:00 AM
Wire winder a winner!

Frank
Title: Re: Homemade Tools & Line Winders
Post by: sierraazuel on October 22, 2020, 07:23:35 PM
Quote from: happyhooker on October 21, 2020, 03:08:00 AM
Wire winder a winner!

Frank

Thank you Frank...