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For Sale => PRO Challenger Fishing Products by Alan Chui => Topic started by: Black Pearl on October 21, 2013, 09:03:43 PM

Title: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set.
Post by: Black Pearl on October 21, 2013, 09:03:43 PM
The samples testing are done. Everything went very good, and we were please.

We have started a second production for this Fathom 4.8:1 gear set. The price is $59.99 + $3.09 for shipping (first set, afterward it is $1.00 per set) within the US (outside of the US order, please send an email for shipping cost inquiry).

Please note that this is a limited quantity production run only.

It will be available for shipping on first week of September 2019. The pre-pay order price is $54.99 + $3.09 for shipping (for the first set, afterward $1.00 per set)within the US (outside of the US order, please send an email for shipping cost inquiry).

To place your pre-pay order, please send an email to sales@prochallenger.com with title "Fathom 4.8 gear set" and include the following items. An invoice will be sent via PayPal.

1.) Full name
2.) Mailing address
3.) Order quantity

Got questions Huh? Huh? Please call 561-568-3980.

LIMITED QUANTITY available

This kit will include the following parts in all stainless steel material. It will fit the original Fathom CF drag and metal washers. The ratio will be 4.8:1.

1.) Stainless steel main gear.
2.) Stainless steel pinion gear.



Thanks,
--Alan

(http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a494/prochallenger/P1000251_zps54735b8c.jpg)
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set and Yoke Kit
Post by: john2244 on October 21, 2013, 09:32:40 PM
I would like a set.
John
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set and Yoke Kit
Post by: Black Pearl on October 21, 2013, 09:33:22 PM
Quote from: john2244 on October 21, 2013, 09:32:40 PM
I would like a set.
John
10-4
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set and Yoke Kit
Post by: Keta on October 21, 2013, 10:12:33 PM
Put me down for 1 set Alan, thank you.
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set and Yoke Kit
Post by: coonhound on October 22, 2013, 05:11:37 PM
I'll take 2  ;D
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set and Yoke Kit
Post by: conchydong on October 22, 2013, 05:30:29 PM

Alan, I will take one set for now. Perhaps another in the future.

Scott
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set and Yoke Kit
Post by: Black Pearl on October 22, 2013, 05:55:42 PM
Quote from: conchydong on October 22, 2013, 05:30:29 PM

Alan, I will take one set for now. Perhaps another in the future.

Scott
Quote from: coonhound on October 22, 2013, 05:11:37 PM
I'll take 2  ;D
10-4
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set and Yoke Kit
Post by: Black Pearl on November 05, 2013, 02:13:08 AM
These 20 sets will be available for shipping on first week of Dec. There are 2 more sets left out of these 20 sets.
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set and Yoke Kit
Post by: Black Pearl on November 29, 2013, 11:23:29 PM
The first 20 Fathom kits will be ready for shipping on 12/5.

Please send me your email address for the invoice to be sent via PayPal.

Thanks,
--Alan
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set and Yoke Kit
Post by: Black Pearl on December 04, 2013, 12:25:51 AM
Here are couple pictures of this 4.8:1 gear set.

(http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a494/prochallenger/DSC07000_zps9af65d3b.jpg?t=1386029964)

(http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a494/prochallenger/DSC07002_zpsf5a78c9b.jpg?t=1386030137)
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set and Yoke Kit
Post by: Keta on December 04, 2013, 12:28:57 AM
Nice!
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set and Yoke Kit
Post by: Alto Mare on December 04, 2013, 12:37:16 AM
Alan, those guys could do anything, beautiful work.
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set and Yoke Kit
Post by: Black Pearl on December 07, 2013, 04:08:42 PM
Attention:

If you receive your order which includes the yoke, please note that that yoke will not be able to fit on the pinion gear. I will send out the replacement yoke in couple weeks.

The yoke is little too thick to fit in the pinion. Sorry for any inconvenience.

Thanks,
--Alan
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set and Yoke Kit
Post by: Black Pearl on December 19, 2013, 10:49:52 PM
Updated......

A replacement SS yoke has been shipped out. This yoke should fit on the pinion very nicely.

If you have any questions, please let me know.

Thanks,
--Alan
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set and Yoke Kit
Post by: Keta on December 20, 2013, 01:19:53 AM
I haven't fished it yet but the instillation was quick and the gears look and feel good.  Alan comes through again.
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set and Yoke Kit
Post by: coonhound on December 31, 2013, 03:50:55 PM
Quote from: Black Pearl on December 19, 2013, 10:49:52 PM
Updated......

A replacement SS yoke has been shipped out. This yoke should fit on the pinion very nicely.

If you have any questions, please let me know.

Thanks,
--Alan

Alan- the new yokes are binding on the eccentric jack.  Anyone else have this issue?  I've been hitting it with a stone and a file, but so far it won't slide up the jack.

-Will
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set and Yoke Kit
Post by: Black Pearl on December 31, 2013, 04:09:11 PM
Quote from: coonhound on December 31, 2013, 03:50:55 PM
Quote from: Black Pearl on December 19, 2013, 10:49:52 PM
Updated......

A replacement SS yoke has been shipped out. This yoke should fit on the pinion very nicely.

If you have any questions, please let me know.

Thanks,
--Alan

Alan- the new yokes are binding on the eccentric jack.  Anyone else have this issue?  I've been hitting it with a stone and a file, but so far it won't slide up the jack.

-Will
Hi Will,

Have you tried to use the original yoke?

I have not heard anyone has that issue.

Thanks,
--Alan
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set and Yoke Kit
Post by: conchydong on December 31, 2013, 05:32:44 PM

I had a problem when I reassembled everything with the new gear set and thanks to Lee (Keta) he mentioned to check the eccentric jack to see if there were any marks on it and sure enough there was. The pin on the eccentric was not seating into the jack properly causing a problem for me. I was still able to shift but had grinding and significant loss of freespool.  Once I got that corrected, everything worked fine. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set and Yoke Kit
Post by: coonhound on December 31, 2013, 07:18:35 PM
Quote from: Black Pearl on December 31, 2013, 04:09:11 PM
Quote from: coonhound on December 31, 2013, 03:50:55 PM
Quote from: Black Pearl on December 19, 2013, 10:49:52 PM
Updated......

A replacement SS yoke has been shipped out. This yoke should fit on the pinion very nicely.

If you have any questions, please let me know.

Thanks,
--Alan

Alan- the new yokes are binding on the eccentric jack.  Anyone else have this issue?  I've been hitting it with a stone and a file, but so far it won't slide up the jack.

-Will
Hi Will,

Have you tried to use the original yoke?

I have not heard anyone has that issue.

Thanks,
--Alan

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Alan,

Yes, the old yoke works fine.  It may be that the holes for the yoke posts are too tight?   The old yoke has more play in the posts.  I've smoothed any burs from the jack and yoke.

Also- I assume the new SS gears will be slightly rougher than the brass, correct?  I have it together now with the new gears/old yoke and it sounds like my 113's with SS gears.  Just making sure this is normal.

Thanks for your help!

Will
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set and Yoke Kit
Post by: Keta on December 31, 2013, 07:24:06 PM
Quote from: coonhound on December 31, 2013, 03:50:55 PM
Alan- the new yokes are binding on the eccentric jack.  Anyone else have this issue?  I've been hitting it with a stone and a file, but so far it won't slide up the jack.

-Will

Check your PM's.
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set.
Post by: Black Pearl on July 25, 2014, 03:13:54 PM
A second production run will be starting soon.
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set.
Post by: dobrobill on July 25, 2014, 04:47:58 PM
Really!!!!
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set.
Post by: screaming_spool on August 05, 2014, 05:18:36 PM
nice!  Put me down for 4 sets !
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set.
Post by: Black Pearl on October 02, 2014, 02:46:41 PM
The samples testing are done. Everything went very good, and we were please.

We have started a second production for this Fathom 4.8:1 gear set. The price is $49.99 + + $2.00 for shipping within the US (outside of the US order, please send an email for shipping cost inquiry). There will be 6% sale tax for order shipped within FL.

Please note that this is a limited quantity production run only.

To place your order, please send an email to sales@prochallenger.com with title "Fathom 4.8 gear set" and include the following items. An invoice will be sent via Square.

1.) Full name
2.) Mailing address
3.) Order quantity
4.) Prefer an invoice via PayPal (additional $0.50 per item will be added)

Got questions ??? ??? Please call 561-568-3980.

Thanks,
--Alan

(http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a494/prochallenger/IMG_1678_zps66b7dcc8.jpg?t=1413244258)

(http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a494/prochallenger/IMG_1676_zps27583d13.jpg?t=1413158367)

(http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a494/prochallenger/14aa3262-bb4e-4a60-b0c5-8ae4a765e2ff_zps366b1de9.jpg?t=1413244395)
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set.
Post by: Black Pearl on October 11, 2014, 11:32:25 PM
All paid orders on this gear set will be shipped out on 10/14.

Thank you for you all support!!!!

Thanks,
--Alan
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set.
Post by: Black Pearl on October 15, 2014, 03:18:44 PM
This gear set is ready for sale on my the online store (www.mkt.com/pro-challenger-LLC (http://www.mkt.com/pro-challenger-LLC)).

The price will go up to $49.99 + $2.00 shipping after this weekend.

Thanks,
Alan
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set.
Post by: maxpowers on October 20, 2014, 04:09:58 PM
I used the 4.8:1 gears yesterday in my fathom 40 fishing for some shallow rockfish (supposed to be a yellowtail trip).  The gears performed perfectly.
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set.
Post by: Rivverrat on May 23, 2015, 01:07:41 AM
Just sent an email. Hoping you have another set left. How do I place order?
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set.
Post by: Black Pearl on May 23, 2015, 02:11:23 AM
Quote from: Rivverrat on May 23, 2015, 01:07:41 AM
Just sent an email. Hoping you have another set left. How do I place order?

Yes. Since I am on vacation until 5/29, I have turned off the shopping cart from the online store.

You can place you order after 5/29.

Thanks,
Alan
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set.
Post by: Rivverrat on May 23, 2015, 02:39:57 AM
All righty thanks!
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set.
Post by: yellowfin263 on June 04, 2015, 03:08:10 AM
Got my gears. It was very easy to change out. Now can't wait to fish it. Thanks Alan.

Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set.
Post by: Keta on May 11, 2016, 01:36:24 AM
Could be one of 2 thing.  Is the yoke beveled on one side where the lines are red?  If so the beveled side goes toward the eccentric jack. , if not file a bevel.   Is the yoke hitting where it is green?  If so file the green lines until it clears.

(http://alantani.com/gallery/14/1583_10_05_16_6_32_42.jpeg)
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set.
Post by: Rivverrat on May 11, 2016, 09:35:16 PM
Hey Lee, Thank you for this reply I will give this a try...Jeff
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set.
Post by: Rivverrat on May 20, 2016, 10:38:47 PM
Well after some issues with the original reel I have the new gear set in. As expected this gear set completely changed the performance of the reel. Changing it into a better tool for my purpose. Gears work almost as smooth as original set with none of the roughness some are speaking of. Some may find this benefit I give it as a suggestion...if everything is working proper & you still have some roughness tie your line off on something solid, set your drag heavy & strip off line. This can help in some cases. If after doing this several times there is no difference or the reel makes noise while cranking the handle in free spool new parts may be in order.

What I'm finding is that the eccentric jack & yoke need to be in good shape or it can show up as roughness with this gear set. Keeping the reel from full engaging or disengaging. Like to say Lee was a big help in getting me going in the right direction in fixing this. Also it helps to have 3 of these reels on hand...Jeff 
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set.
Post by: Rivverrat on May 22, 2016, 12:50:40 AM
Here are some pics to show something that can become  a big issue when making use of this good gear set.The eccentric on the left is the original that came out of my 25N the pin measures 0.241. The one on the right is new it measures 0.266. Big difference in the length of the pins. This longer one stays seated better in the eccentric jack not jumping out as easily.

I you are experiencing roughness or chatter while cranking the reel in gear or out this would be a good place to look. If the pin is jumping out of its slot in the eccentric jack you will most times see a streak/mark on the jack right below the slot the eccentric pin rides in. If this is happening it will keep your reel from completely engaging or possibly going completely into free spool.
Again I would like to thank Lee/Keta for his willingness to help me with this. He was a big help in getting me headed in the right direction & finding this issue. Lee,  I'm very grateful.

I hope this is a benefit to some of one....Jeff      
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set.
Post by: spize909 on September 04, 2016, 04:30:20 AM
I got my kit the other day after some VERY fast shipping and sat down to install it and do a little reel service at the same time today.
All was going well until I tried to slip the pinion gear into the yoke. The groove in the gear is way to small for the yoke to go into.
I emailed Alan (on a Sat) and replied very fast to file the groove until it works or send it back with the yoke and they could do it.

I don't have a file that small but could get one but I'm a little concerned I may Fudge it up. I don't necessarily want to hassle sending it back but I'm a little on trying to take that much material out of a stainless piece.
Opinions?
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set.
Post by: Rivverrat on September 04, 2016, 06:20:03 PM
Yokes are cheap try making the yoke fit the existing groove. However could you post some pics of what your dealing with? That might help my self & others help you better....Jeff
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set.
Post by: spize909 on September 04, 2016, 07:23:36 PM
Thanks. I got it.
The groove in the pinion was too tight for the yoke. The yoke was .075" and the groove was probably about .07" or so. I had a fat cutting wheel on my dremel and carefully used the flat edge of the wheel to grind the goove a little wider on the pinion. Got it all back together and it works great and everything meshes well and feels smooth, even with the new stainless gear.
Sorry, no pics, too late ;D
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set.
Post by: eguinn on November 02, 2016, 11:23:35 PM
  Hi, I'm thinking about getting a 4.8 to 1 gear set for my Fathom 30 star drag, but I do have some questions about some of the problems I've been reading about. 1st, are people having problems with wearing out or excessive wear on the stock brass Penn yokes when they install these gear sets in their reels, also I see that some people are having to sand the new SS yokes because they are a little bit thicker, and they are having to chamfer the openings around  the U shaped part where the pinion gears slides in & out, I'm refering to the diagram I've seen on here. I'd like to order a set but I just wanted to check on these couple of things I've been reading about. Thanks Ed
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set.
Post by: Black Pearl on November 03, 2016, 02:05:21 AM
Quote from: eguinn on November 02, 2016, 11:23:35 PM
  Hi, I'm thinking about getting a 4.8 to 1 gear set for my Fathom 30 star drag, but I do have some questions about some of the problems I've been reading about. 1st, are people having problems with wearing out or excessive wear on the stock brass Penn yokes when they install these gear sets in their reels, also I see that some people are having to sand the new SS yokes because they are a little bit thicker, and they are having to chamfer the openings around  the U shaped part where the pinion gears slides in & out, I'm refering to the diagram I've seen on here. I'd like to order a set but I just wanted to check on these couple of things I've been reading about. Thanks Ed

I think the some yoke are made in stainless steel. It is a custome parts, and it might require a little sanding on the yoke. I have not seen any yoke needs to opening the U shaped.
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set.
Post by: eguinn on November 03, 2016, 05:27:29 AM
  What I was saying was that some of them had to be chamfered at the bottom of the opening so that there is more clearance for the yoke to slide up & down easier, it sounded like some of them would hang up a little going from free spool to being put in gear or vice a versa, kinda of like they might have been hanging up on the sharp corners when you are in free spool & push the lever to push the yoke down when it goes into gear. I didn't mean that there was not enough clearance between the OD of the slot at the bottom of the pinion gear & the width or diameter of the slot in the yoke. I think the opening of the slot in the yoke was/is fine.
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set.
Post by: eguinn on November 03, 2016, 03:41:58 PM
 Hi, Iwas trying to order a gear set for the Penn fathom from your site, I've complrtrd my registration & placed the order but I don't know if it went through Ok,When I went to checkout your site didn't do anything. Maybe you can confirm that it went thru Ok, if noy send me a invoice & I'll pay with Paypal if that's Ok with you. Thanks ed
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set.
Post by: Black Pearl on November 03, 2016, 03:55:15 PM
Quote from: eguinn on November 03, 2016, 03:41:58 PM
Hi, Iwas trying to order a gear set for the Penn fathom from your site, I've complrtrd my registration & placed the order but I don't know if it went through Ok,When I went to checkout your site didn't do anything. Maybe you can confirm that it went thru Ok, if noy send me a invoice & I'll pay with Paypal if that's Ok with you. Thanks ed

Hi Ed,

Square which hosts my site placed three orders of this gear set on your card. I refunded 2 orders back to your card.

Let me know if you have any questions.
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set.
Post by: eguinn on November 08, 2016, 03:22:16 AM
Will these gears also fit the Fathom 12 star drag reel? Thanks
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set.
Post by: Black Pearl on November 08, 2016, 03:31:24 AM
Quote from: eguinn on November 08, 2016, 03:22:16 AM
Will these gears also fit the Fathom 12 star drag reel? Thanks

It fits all Fathom SD models.
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set.
Post by: Black Pearl on July 06, 2019, 07:03:54 PM
New production run old this item will start next week. Few people from BD have been asking for it.

If one wishes to pre-order this item, please read the first posting on this thread for more information.

Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set.
Post by: Black Pearl on September 19, 2019, 11:51:23 AM
This item is available in my online store now.
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set.
Post by: Rivverrat on March 11, 2020, 05:18:23 PM
Wont fit Torque. The Fathom 2 speeds use the same gears as the Torque 2 speed models. Not the same with torque & Fathom Star Drags.... Jeff
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set.
Post by: Jenx on August 15, 2020, 01:54:38 AM
I just recently purchased the new Fathom II 25N. Will these gears work with the new Fathoms?

Mine has the 6:1 ratio, and I wouldn't mind dropping it down to a 4.8 with these gears.

Thanks.
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set.
Post by: Black Pearl on August 15, 2020, 04:34:53 PM
Quote from: Jenx on August 15, 2020, 01:54:38 AM
I just recently purchased the new Fathom II 25N. Will these gears work with the new Fathoms?

Mine has the 6:1 ratio, and I wouldn't mind dropping it down to a 4.8 with these gears.

Thanks.

I believe that the Fathom II gear set is different than the original Fathom SD.
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set.
Post by: Jenx on August 15, 2020, 05:54:34 PM
Well that's not what i wanted to hear.

Thanks for the response.
Title: Re: PENN Fathom SD 4.8:1 ratio SS Gear Set.
Post by: Swami805 on August 15, 2020, 06:40:59 PM
I think they come with 6-1 or 4.8-1. Maybe you can buy the gear from penn