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Fishing Rods => Fishing Rods => Topic started by: Topshot on January 11, 2014, 08:28:12 PM

Title: Cutting a rod and it's power
Post by: Topshot on January 11, 2014, 08:28:12 PM
We'll I'm going to be building up a new rod and I'm looking at blanks. The rod will be for a daiwa 900h. The blank I want to is is from mudhole. It is a 8ft 50-80. But I was wondering if I cut a foot off the bottom and a foot off the top. Will this increase the power and line rating. Takin it from a 50-80 to say a 80-100. Or would it just make it a broom stick??
Title: Re: Cutting a rod and it's power
Post by: Bryan Young on January 11, 2014, 09:15:57 PM
Quote from: Topshot on January 11, 2014, 08:28:12 PM
We'll I'm going to be building up a new rod and I'm looking at blanks. The rod will be for a daiwa 900h. The blank I want to is is from mudhole. It is a 8ft 50-80. But I was wondering if I cut a foot off the bottom and a foot off the top. Will this increase the power and line rating. Takin it from a 50-80 to say a 80-100. Or would it just make it a broom stick??
it depends on the rod and the original design.
Title: Re: Cutting a rod and it's power
Post by: MFB on January 11, 2014, 09:47:54 PM
I have a 24kg Kilwell Buccaneer rod on my 900H. I bought it as a complete rod, but Kilwell also do rod blanks they may have something closer to what you want.

http://www.kilwell.co.nz/

Rgds

Mark
Title: Re: Cutting a rod and it's power
Post by: Dynamo on January 11, 2014, 10:29:04 PM
I wouldn't personally. That particular blank is pretty fast and will be really stiff cut in the way you described. The Batson solid glass 60-100 is similarly priced and will balance nicely w. the 900h, thats probably what I would go with. If you'd like a longer rod, the Fishing tackle unlimited LS10h, ( a Harnell 552 clone), will also pair up quite well if you cut several inches off of the tip.
Title: Re: Cutting a rod and it's power
Post by: mikeg24thst on January 12, 2014, 04:24:46 AM
I have cut several of those blanks and I cut usually a foot and a half and I have cut a foot all from the top part of the rod I use a size 4 American tackle gimbal a 12" bottom grip a size 24 American tackle reel seat and 10 or 12" fore grip with asize 24 Stuart top on the 6'6" and a 20 on the 7' rod with standard or medium Stuart roller guides I'd say the 7' rod is in the hundred lb class and the 6'6" is in the 130lb class
Title: Re: Cutting a rod and it's power
Post by: Jaime on January 12, 2014, 03:41:47 PM
Top Shot...Why would you want to buy a blank, then cut it up to make something else from it ?

Apparently you are looking at blanks in a Mud Hole catalog.  Just go to Cal Star, they make
numerous blanks that are specifically designed and built to the specifications you are looking for.
Most are less than $90 and you will have a much better designed finished rod than what you
are contemplating.

Jaime
Title: Re: Cutting a rod and it's power
Post by: Bryan Young on January 12, 2014, 05:26:31 PM
It may stiffen the rod but it may not increase the power because the walls of the rod was built for 50-80#.
Title: Re: Cutting a rod and it's power
Post by: Dynamo on January 12, 2014, 05:38:36 PM
Exactly, if you want a 130 class blank then buy a 130 class blank. That blank is as Mr. Young pointed out designed for 50-80 lb line classes.
Title: Re: Cutting a rod and it's power
Post by: Topshot on January 12, 2014, 06:45:29 PM
Ya I decided not to go that route. I have 4 blanks I'm looking at. One is the gaston rainshadow (not sure of the model number) the other 2 are seeker blanks one is a 660xxh and the other is a 6455xh and the last one is a calstar 6465xh. Like you said it wouldn't be a good idea to try and cut and chop something to make it into something it wasn't designed for.
Title: Re: Cutting a rod and it's power
Post by: Ron Jones on January 12, 2014, 09:32:19 PM
I have used the 660xxh many times and love the rod. You should be very happy with it in the weight class you are looking at.
Ron
Title: Re: Cutting a rod and it's power
Post by: Topshot on January 12, 2014, 10:15:27 PM
Quote from: noyb72 on January 12, 2014, 09:32:19 PM
I have used the 660xxh many times and love the rod. You should be very happy with it in the weight class you are looking at.
Ron
That's what I'm gonna go with. I'm getting a pretty good deal on it. $55 shipped for that blank
Title: Re: Cutting a rod and it's power
Post by: Keta on January 12, 2014, 11:59:48 PM
Black Steel or SS?
Title: Re: Cutting a rod and it's power
Post by: Topshot on January 13, 2014, 12:11:27 AM
Quote from: Keta on January 12, 2014, 11:59:48 PM
Black Steel or SS?
I'm not sure. It's a blue blank rated 50(80)130. What is the difference??
Title: Re: Cutting a rod and it's power
Post by: Keta on January 13, 2014, 12:29:45 AM
Materials they are made out of, all of my Seeker rods are Black Steel or Hercules but I'd like to have a Super Seeker.
Title: Re: Cutting a rod and it's power
Post by: SoCalAngler on January 13, 2014, 05:54:25 AM
Seeker had two blanks that were blue. The Extreem series and they did a run or two of some of the Super Seekers as well. The Extreem's were more aqua colored and the Super's were darker blue. I'm not sure if they had others as well but these are the ones I remember off the top of my head.

Edit: The Extreem's are s-glass and the Super's are composits.
Title: Re: Cutting a rod and it's power
Post by: Keta on January 13, 2014, 05:56:54 AM
Were the Black Steel blanks all grey/charcoal?
Title: Re: Cutting a rod and it's power
Post by: Ron Jones on January 13, 2014, 05:58:29 AM
I thought the "California Classics" or whatever they called the Saber taper rods, were done in a darkish blue for a while.
Ron
Title: Re: Cutting a rod and it's power
Post by: SoCalAngler on January 13, 2014, 06:10:25 AM
The Seeker Classic series were labeled with WCBC before the blank number. The WCBC stands for West Coast Black Classic and the blanks were black with blue wrapping. But, Seeker did from time to time do limited runs of rods in different colors. I have seen the normally red blank Super Seekers done in orange, blue and green so I would not put it past seeker to do different runs of other models in different colors.
Title: Re: Cutting a rod and it's power
Post by: Keta on January 13, 2014, 06:20:23 AM
Thanks, my Black Steel rods are all factory wrapped like you described.
Title: Re: Cutting a rod and it's power
Post by: Ron Jones on January 13, 2014, 06:38:58 AM
Maybe it is the blue wraps, but I thought I remember a blue rod.
Ron
Title: Re: Cutting a rod and it's power
Post by: Topshot on January 13, 2014, 06:39:12 AM
Wow just found out that the 2 rod blanks I bought were limited run blue seeker extreme series blanks. Made with a glass. Lighter but a lot stronger then e glass versions. Strong as graphite without the stiffness the 6 foot is going for $127 and the 5'5 is going for $117. I think I might have scored
Title: Re: Cutting a rod and it's power
Post by: Topshot on January 13, 2014, 06:43:22 AM
Here they are gentlemen
(http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab74/careychristopher41/650DCA95-3405-4117-BD5B-F6F8EB9EB04C_zpsngxu7phe.jpg) (http://s851.photobucket.com/user/careychristopher41/media/650DCA95-3405-4117-BD5B-F6F8EB9EB04C_zpsngxu7phe.jpg.html)
(http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab74/careychristopher41/4B8490E0-4659-4DAD-A2F0-1D388CDED213_zpsrzackrvg.jpg) (http://s851.photobucket.com/user/careychristopher41/media/4B8490E0-4659-4DAD-A2F0-1D388CDED213_zpsrzackrvg.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Cutting a rod and it's power
Post by: SoCalAngler on January 13, 2014, 06:53:32 AM
As you know those are the Extreem blanks.

Lee,
All the Black Steel blanks I have seen are the charcoal/gray color.
Title: Re: Cutting a rod and it's power
Post by: doradoben on January 13, 2014, 08:50:41 PM
Good for you, Topshot. As I recall these would have probably been produced before they started building the Super Seekers. You will have much nicer rods to fish than if you had cut both ends off a long blank, and xxh's are true 80lb. rods..
Title: Re: Cutting a rod and it's power
Post by: Shark Hunter on January 13, 2014, 09:18:07 PM
You did good Topshot. For 130 class, I go with the Rainshadow. A lot of rod for the money!
This is a 5'8" Rainshadow with 8 zirconium guides. That's a 16/0 on the other end.
](http://i1300.photobucket.com/albums/ag93/darondyer/BarBar3_zps5c5af25f.jpg)
Title: Re: Cutting a rod and it's power
Post by: SoCalAngler on January 14, 2014, 02:11:18 AM
I forgot to add that the classics also came in the honey color.
Title: Re: Cutting a rod and it's power
Post by: Dynamo on January 14, 2014, 04:28:01 AM
Very nice rod, Shark Hunter  ;D! Do you know what blank it is? How do you like it? How does it bend?
Title: Re: Cutting a rod and it's power
Post by: Shark Hunter on January 14, 2014, 05:03:05 AM
I haven't fished it yet. Its the eglass blend. Glass at the bottom and graphite and glass toward the top. I forgot the original blank numbers. I had it made by Bar Bar Tackle.
Title: Re: Cutting a rod and it's power
Post by: Dynamo on January 14, 2014, 05:10:30 AM
Thanks for the informative reply!