Reel Repair by Alan Tani

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Quote from: JasonGotaProblem on Today at 04:23:57 PMI think if 5 people are using mono leaders and one is using thin braid, the thin braid will move through the water differently than the 5 lines of mono that all travel together.

With that said I fish braid exclusively and had gone several trips in a row without a single tangle with others on a boat with 45 people on it. But last trip there were a bunch of beginners, and it was tangle city. Not saying your boat mates were beginners. But that was an interesting difference I noticed last trip.

Well 4 of the 6 fishers on the charter were rookies, but I caused the tangle so... well...maybe...I'll blame the fish. Whatever it was pulled a steady 17lbs of drag sideways until it cut my leader. Still considering a longer top shot though. Need to learn to tie a knot that travels well through the guides.

 What does not make sense ,flat  weigh on the digital scale being less .

     Redid the test with 10 pounds and a spring scale ,the flat weight was more in line at 10 pounds  The closer to 90 degree did get less .

  The first 2 are weighing  the weight , checking scale .
  Next 2 are flat weight
  Next 2 are the stick as close to 90 .  Half the weight ?

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Quote from: oldmanjoe on Today at 06:03:49 PMHere is a test to further confuse ya .  Take a weight and scale it . "I have 2.5 pounds with a digital scale  "  Now run a line down the guides of your stick , Tiegh  the weight and put a loop on the string at ,or near the reel seat so you can hook the scale to it . lift the weight flat stick and note the weight .  Now pick the stick to 80-85 degrees and note the weight . Why does it vary so much?

If I understand your test correctly, your question is answered in reply #23.  You are measuring the effect of leverage. 
On the main topic, leverage will not affect the drag setting vs measurement when the fish is continuously taking line.

-J

How does this lever work ?  flat stick  suspended weight is now 1.85 pounds .  Stick at 85 ish degrees the weight is now less than a pound ?
 

I thought that you were measuring the lifting load with the scale at the effort point on a class 3 lever (see diagram).  If you are measuring the load when lifting the line off the floor by pulling the line through the guides with the scale, you are seeing the same effort to lift the weight +/- some  noise from the rod moving/bending  during the measurement process. You are providing a combination of forces, both pulling on the scale and loading or lifting the rod.

If I am wrong about rod angle having  no effect when the rod is not moving, it would probably be because some of the pulling force is being countered by a combination of the effort on the lever, and the rest by the scale (or drag).  But we would need someone who didn't fall asleep during physics (not me!) to explain this. Plus, my training is in logic and not mechanical engineering.

I wouldn't mind being wrong here.  This is a chance for me to learn something.  It wouldn't be the first time that I had to update a post with a correction.  But I have to admit to being skeptical at this point.  If adding a static lever or changing the direction of the line affected the effort required to lift a load, winch driven machinery would look a lot different than it does.

-J

Braid tends to tangle more because it's so limp compared to mono. Also paying attention to where your line is and your fellow anglers. Ideally everyone has their line straight out in front of them although many times it's not possible   It's mostly awareness of your surroundings, if everyone is paying attention tangles can be minimal

Quote from: thorhammer on Today at 05:44:34 PMMost welcome. This was a fun rabbit hole to go down. Imma guess I have a good two dozen across the Squidder / Baymaster / Surfmaster  / Beachmaster flock.


Then, when you think you have a handle on it (see what I did there), you will stumble across a 250 Surfmaster and 259 Livebait Caster. "Hey, what's this, now?" Then you will find 99 Silver Beach. It will be too late when you realize, "Oh crap...I had two Baymasters, now I have ten Jigmasters, and ten reels in between. What the hell just happened..."

Then, Cortez Conversion packages start showing up. It happens.

LOL!!! That right there is funny!!! I will have all the reels I need for now....Delmars, which  handle most of my fishing, a couple of 350's, and a Long Beach 65 for the bigger stuff around here...plus some Squidder's and a Squidder Jr. Sold all my Senators when I left Florida (wish I hadn't)...Plus some long surf rods and a four spinners that I really dont use much. These 180's should round out my inventory......maybe. LOL!

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Quote from: oldmanjoe on Today at 06:03:49 PMHere is a test to further confuse ya .  Take a weight and scale it . "I have 2.5 pounds with a digital scale  "  Now run a line down the guides of your stick , Tiegh  the weight and put a loop on the string at ,or near the reel seat so you can hook the scale to it . lift the weight flat stick and note the weight .  Now pick the stick to 80-85 degrees and note the weight . Why does it vary so much?

If I understand your test correctly, your question is answered in reply #23.  You are measuring the effect of leverage. 
On the main topic, leverage will not affect the drag setting vs measurement when the fish is continuously taking line.

-J

How does this lever work ?  flat stick  suspended weight is now 1.85 pounds .  Stick at 85 ish degrees the weight is now less than a pound ?
 

Quote from: oldmanjoe on Today at 06:03:49 PMHere is a test to further confuse ya .  Take a weight and scale it . "I have 2.5 pounds with a digital scale  "  Now run a line down the guides of your stick , Tiegh  the weight and put a loop on the string at ,or near the reel seat so you can hook the scale to it . lift the weight flat stick and note the weight .  Now pick the stick to 80-85 degrees and note the weight . Why does it vary so much?

If I understand your test correctly, your question is answered in reply #23.  You are measuring the effect of leverage.   
On the main topic, leverage will not affect the drag setting vs measurement when the fish is continuously taking line.

-J

Yup x all.

To be "scientific" it would take a variable speed motor and a tachometer,  it is not worth the effort and $. 

Bottom line, set your drag at 1/4-1/3 (I do 1/3) of the rod rating and fish.