Reel Repair by Alan Tani

You guys never cease to amaze me!

I have a parts 3/0 that will get a new lease on life!

Steve 

I am usually narrow minded, but pulling up enough big fish from 600 feet with Ted has made me appreciate wide reels because it keeps the line in the "fast" (don't laugh) part of the spool longer.

Me, Wayne, Steve, and Ted went out with our buddy Tod to a spot a ways deeper than normal for Black Rock Fish (Ted will remember the name.) I've been happy with Ca ling cod smaller than the BRFs we were catching that day. We were in maybe 120 feet or so, and the torque of this reel with a 5 stack would be nice to get you out of a rock or if you happen to hook into a no joke ling in the spot.

The other place I see this reel working is in the surf off a jetty. You can get away with heavier line, and again this things torque helps get you out of trouble. If you can find a set of Newell Teflon bushings, this thing would cast more than far enough at any tide. I'd love it for La Push or Westport; or my childhood Home beach of Oceanside, Ca. Fishing it in the mouth with a bucket full of live chovies and a Corona would be a blast, there are BIG white sea bass in that water.
The Man

Quote from: jurelometer on Today at 12:31:50 AMYou got it the gist of it right, but the details are also interesting (at least to me )

The plastic spools cast better than the aluminum ones, which cast better than the plated brass ones.   I busted a few plastic spools jigmaster back in the day, but might prefer them now if loaded up with something less stretchy like spectra.

Quotethey were not design for mono at the time and could cause the ends of the spool to split or crack due to mono contraction

Mono expansion.  When the nylon gets stretched under load it gets longer, which means that the diameter decreases.  Once back on the spool and not under stretching load, it has plenty of memory to return (mostly) to the original dimensions.  Which means that the set of wraps across the spool push against each other, loading up the spool walls.  Layer after layer.

The load you need to avoid is toward the spool lip.  The lip has less support, and also acts as a lever against the arbor attach point.  You would have to put a lot of dacron in the spool to decrease the amount of nylon available to expand.  Also the thicker the nylon, the more load it can store and more it can expand, so 40lb test is more likely to crack the spool than 20.

It's the winding of nylon under load that gets you in the end. That is what pressurizes the line. So a bit of depends on how you fish.

I would load it up with modern braid (like spectra).  If you don't like casting braid, add just enough of a nylon mono topshot to reach your casting distance plus a bit to spare for trimming off. Maybe 80 lb spectra, or 30 lb dacron as the main fill.

-J

Thank you very much! I normally use braid, so I will go that route. 20lb mono was what I was considering, maybe 25 as I have a bunch of it. I searched for the info but kept coming up empty.

You got it the gist of it right, but the details are also interesting (at least to me )

The plastic spools cast better than the aluminum ones, which cast better than the plated brass ones.   I busted a few plastic spools jigmaster back in the day, but might prefer them now if loaded up with something less stretchy like spectra.

Quotethey were not design for mono at the time and could cause the ends of the spool to split or crack due to mono contraction

Mono expansion.  When the nylon gets stretched under load it gets longer, which means that the diameter decreases.  Once back on the spool and not under stretching load, it has plenty of memory to return (mostly) to the original dimensions.  Which means that the set of wraps across the spool push against each other, loading up the spool walls.  Layer after layer.

The load you need to avoid is toward the spool lip.  The lip has less support, and also acts as a lever against the arbor attach point.  You would have to put a lot of dacron in the spool to decrease the amount of nylon available to expand.  Also the thicker the nylon, the more load it can store and more it can expand, so 40lb test is more likely to crack the spool than 20.

It's the winding of nylon under load that gets you in the end. That is what pressurizes the line. So a bit of depends on how you fish.

I would load it up with modern braid (like spectra).  If you don't like casting braid, add just enough of a nylon mono topshot to reach your casting distance plus a bit to spare for trimming off. Maybe 80 lb spectra, or 30 lb dacron as the main fill.

-J

I picked up my first jigmaster 500 on ebay and fully expected it to need some love. To my surprise most all the internal had been upgraded to the stainless parts! Lucky me. Anyway its a pretty maroon and close to collectable quality. Very clean. i thought I had previously read here regarding the plastic spool and mono. spool is also maroon if that matters. should I spool some dacron on bottom before mono to protect the spool from breaking? i thought I had read here they were not design for mono at the time and could cause the ends of the spool to split or crack due to mono contraction? I am eyeballing a stainless and newell spool, but would like to use the plastic one. TY kindly

Quote from: JasonGotaProblem on April 17, 2024, 05:52:00 PMIf that blue one is still available I'm in trouble.

T
Jason, the blue 146 is still available.

What application would be best for this mini-tank?

Just noticed a 114h with black plates on Ebay.... Rudy had 10 of them and always looked for the nice ones.
He beat me once he got his 8th.  Another solid member I miss.
Best to ya, Rudy
Your pal,
Dom

 Penn never made a 99 Jigmaster, but it is a legendary albacore killing reel, and still popular today

 Penn also never made a mid width small senator that falls in between a 2/0 and 3/0, even though the parts were right there in front of them. Just take a 3/0 or 2/0 and add 99 seat, 66 posts, and 65 or seaboy 190 spool, and you've got a mid size small senator !!

 

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