which spinning reel from USA for long range jig stick?

[Keta]

...... I really want to get my hands on a Clash though.

I have a Clash 4000 coming.  I am new to spinners so this year will be interesting.

[Alto Mare]

I have a Clash 4000 coming.  I am new to spinners so this year will be interesting.

You shouldn't be, I sent you one a few years ago. Check under the pile of stuff on your desk, it might still be sitting there

[0119]

He wants advice on a good USA built spinning reel

Simple...... there's only one spinning reel made in the US...... Penn Torque

[johndtuttle]

He wants advice on a good USA built spinning reel

Simple...... there's only one spinning reel made in the US...... Penn Torque

Well, not quite right.....

There is the Accurate Twin Spin and there have been some interesting changes in the smallest ones.

But the large ones for popping have had some troubles that I don't know have been ironed out. Penn Torque is well proven at this point.

[Keta]

I have a Clash 4000 coming.  I am new to spinners so this year will be interesting.

You shouldn't be, I sent you one a few years ago. Check under the pile of stuff on your desk, it might still be sitting there

It is on a rod I'm building for it.

[Tiddlerbasher]

US made then Penn Torque as others have said. If you want to spread your horizons I don't think the Okuma Cedros CJ-80S can be beaten - http://www.okumafishing.com/product/view/reels/spinning-1/cedros-high-speed

It is quick at approx. 46" per crank. Drag to over 30lb. It holds about 400yds of 65lb braid. Fraction of the Torque price.
I just swapped out the felt drags for cf. In the last 3 years it has caught a shedload of catfish to over 100lb. It is one solid reel

[cbar45]

Okuma also has a new Makaira super-spinner in the works.

It's still quite early, but something worth keeping an eye on..

Chad

[boon]

If money is not a huge issue, set aside the "made in the USA" dogma, the Stella and Saltiga are the kings of the super-spinners - with the Saltiga Expedition probably having the slightest edge at the moment.

Rod-wise, a jigging rod and a popping rod are going to be quite different beasts, especially when you get the specialised rods that the high-end of the market provides.
I have to throw in an obligatory mention for Synit rods out of New Zealand, they have a recently released line of popping rods that are top notch.

[Three se7ens]

Dont forget the Daiwa Isla.  It has strength and gearing of the saltiga, but without some of the frills, and is priced well for what you get.

[garyal]

To all:

Thank you so much for the advice!

My reasoning for USA manufactured:
I have spent 30+ years in USA manufacturing of metal cans. I put food on the table, put 3 boys thru university, started up my own business EXPORTING used machinery, all thru American manufacturing. I am now close to retiring, by supporting American manufacturing, I am supporting the economy that supported me and my family. Same with cars.. I buy American. Foreign companies pay their taxes predominately to foreign governments. Sorry for the "Dogma", for me it is "reel".

With that said, I will recommend the Torque 5, with 50 lb. spectra and 40 lb. mono. However, I will have him go put his hands on both the Torque 5 and 7 as the 7 has larger capacity but is noted here as too large for all day fishing.

For rods. I will study further.

Thank you again!

[johndtuttle]

To all:

Thank you so much for the advice!

My reasoning for USA manufactured:
I have spent 30+ years in USA manufacturing of metal cans. I put food on the table, put 3 boys thru university, started up my own business EXPORTING used machinery, all thru American manufacturing. I am now close to retiring, by supporting American manufacturing, I am supporting the economy that supported me and my family. Same with cars.. I buy American. Foreign companies pay their taxes predominately to foreign governments. Sorry for the "Dogma", for me it is "reel".

With that said, I will recommend the Torque 5, with 50 lb. spectra and 40 lb. mono. However, I will have him go put his hands on both the Torque 5 and 7 as the 7 has larger capacity but is noted here as too large for all day fishing.

For rods. I will study further.

Thank you again!

Keith (Handi2) mentioned he thought the Torque 7 was large but that size reel is commonly used for all day popping. Fortunately, the average Tuna from a LR boat out of SD is 50# or below out to 7-8 day range and a Torque 5 will handle them with no trouble with ~300 yards of 50# braid.

If I was traveling to Puerto Vallarta, Mexico or Panama then the T7 would be ideal where fishing 65# braid is more the norm.

[MarkT]

Unfortunately, the boat sailed years ago on the whole made in the US thing.  Trying to get made in the USA is a hard fight these days and takes research. I can get a Honda assembled here with more made in US parts than any Ford.  But Ford is a US company and theoretically pays the taxes to the US but then so does Honda USA and Nissan, Toyota, BMW, etc, all of whom have plants here.

My computer wasn't made here but the CPU is by Intel.  Intel has Fab's in the US, Ireland, Israel and China. The newest I7's use the 14nm process and US and Ireland build them so I guess my I7 was likely made here but the computer itself as well as the monitor came from China!  My phone came from Korea which is I guess better than an IPhone made in China by people who like the work so much that they jump out the windows.

It's just as bad in Japan.  Lots of people there put a high value on made in Japan but their rules are very loose on defining what that means.  Made in China with final assembly in Japan counts as made in Japan!

[johndtuttle]

Unfortunately, the boat sailed years ago on the whole made in the US thing.  Trying to get made in the USA is a hard fight these days and takes research. I can get a Honda assembled here with more made in US parts than any Ford.  But Ford is a US company and theoretically pays the taxes to the US but then so does Honda USA and Nissan, Toyota, BMW, etc, all of whom have plants here.

My computer wasn't made here but the CPU is by Intel.  Intel has Fab's in the US, Ireland, Israel and China. The newest I7's use the 14nm process and US and Ireland build them so I guess my I7 was likely made here but the computer itself as well as the monitor came from China!  My phone came from Korea which is I guess better than an IPhone made in China by people who like the work so much that they jump out the windows.

It's just as bad in Japan.  Lots of people there put a high value on made in Japan but their rules are very loose on defining what that means.  Made in China with final assembly in Japan counts as made in Japan!

I feel ya' Mark but Penn has a lot of reels that are made entirely in the USA. They may get some SS screws or bearings or washers from overseas but the frames and gears and spools are made here. All the Torques, spinning and conventional plus the Internationals and US Senators....Penn even makes the stainless gears for the Fathoms and Squalls here and sends them to China to be put into the reels.


best

[garyal]

I would even go so far as to say the Penn Torque 25N star drag reel is the best star drag casting reel in the world. American made, American designed and American raw materials which may be the most important aspect. Then you have the Torque LD series with the thrust bearings. I have not yet had my hands on one, but I KNOW I will like it when I do.

It is still a free country (sort of) and not all items can still be obtained by "buying American". Every single time I have the option to buy made in America, I do, BY CHOICE. I do business and travel extensively throughout the world. I walk thru factories in just about every country you can name. It breaks my heart to see people work their fingers to the bone 6-7 days per week and not earn enough to put food on the table, let alone a roof over the heads of their children. Then you go have dinner with the factory owners who fly in on private jets for the dinner meeting....Of course these guys are rich and I never will be, but my employees have full medical, dental, matching 401K and profit sharing. At least I can look in the mirror without shame every morning when I shave. If I were those guys, I would have to cut my own throat in shame. I do what I can, change what I can, and #### about the rest. I still believe in American workers.


Thank you again for your input! I think the Torque 5 will be his choice after handling both. If he graduates to 10+ day trips, he can afford to buy BOTH the 5 & 7!  As John pointed out so correctly, the 5 should handle all his 7 day trip needs for now.

[MarkT]

Absolutely!  My Battle 6000 with 300 yds of 50# and a 40# leader did fine on my 5 and 10 days last year.  The Torque 5 is a much better reel and will definitely get it done.  Both my vehicles are American made, Chevy Trailblazer and Pontiac Grand Prix.  Yeah, they're old, like me!