274 lb Yellowfin Tuna--

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Bryan Young

And he used a 300 gram jig. I'd like to see anyone jig with a 10/0 or even a 6/0 reel. You May Not Last Even A Few Drop Of Your. Jig.
:D I talk with every part I send out and each reel I repair so that they perform at the top of their game. :D

wallacewt

that was a magnificent effort.
good stuff,good video

Shark Hunter

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Quote from: Bryan Young on March 18, 2014, 01:24:43 AM
And he used a 300 gram jig. I'd like to see anyone jig with a 10/0 or even a 6/0 reel. You May Not Last Even A Few Drop Of Your. Jig.
Once you strap in. The 10 or 12/0 is very manageable. Put the gimbal in the fighting belt, clip the reel to your harness and you are set. It just becomes an extension of yourself. I can lift my hands up with a big fish on and the reel and rod is not going anywhere. Just Lean back and hold on!
It probably wouldn't have worked too well from a boat, but for the type of fishing I do. it works out perfect.  ;)

I don't Jig.
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Keta

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But that gear would kill you with heavy iron.  Possibly slow pitch jigging might be ok.  

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erikpowell

Quote from: maxpowers on March 18, 2014, 12:51:03 AM
Quote from: Tightlines666 on March 17, 2014, 11:54:22 PM
Gotta give that guy credit for catching that fish on the small reel, w/heavy drag settings.  Not sure I like the long parabolic rod w/titanium guides though.  It did keep the pressure on the fish and absorbed shock, smoothed out the surges, but that high fulcrum point and long 'spongy' type rod put some serious punishment on the angler as well.  Much harder to gain line/lift tue fish when pumping since most of your initial lift just loads the rod up first, before it can transfer to the fish.  I think a short fully rollered rod w/a bent butt, and a strong/stiff backbone , and a snappier tip (to help mitigate surges w/spectra), and a proper lower belt, and seat harness would allow much better control of the fish, and lifting power with short/quick pumps to turn the head and keep em coming.  You want to fight the fish (not the rod), and keep physics on your side.  Non rollered guides are tough on your line, and introduce more jerkiness to the equation too. 
Still impressive non-the-less.

The physics is that unless he is harnessed in, which he was not, the short fast taper rod would have forced him to use the rail as a fulcrum point.  the parabolic rod actually put more pressure on the fish by sacrificing the vertical lifting power.  Even though he is lifting very little but traveling through a longer arc, there is no time in the process when the fish felt and less pressure.  He is actually making the fish fight the rad harder than someone using a short taper rod.  Also the parabolic bend in the rod shortened the effective lever the fish have against you since the lever is a straight line from the fulcrum to the loaded rod tip.  This is the reason why the east coast jigger is able to land some big big fish using very light tackle and in record time too.  However there is a drawback here in that the angler must be in fairly good shape to fight the fish in stand up fashion.

Well put Max... I agree with you on the parabolic action and you explained it well... i fish both types of rods, but only parabolic with spinners for jigging.. it can be hard to convince folks of the power in these rods until you actually hook up a good fish...
some guys just laugh at the skinny little rods and walk on... some of us know they work.
I haven't used one with an overhead yet but am soon about to try...I'll hook my Tank up to one for a go.. or I'll make a move and fix up a Torsa 30 a guy left behind in the shop...THAT's the combo that I'll build an acid wrap rod for  ;) .... one of these days.. ;D

one of my buddies went a little overboard (i thought) and hooked a Tyrnos 50 II onto his 5'2 80lb Cape Cod for trolling ... now that was a funny looking setup... ;D ;D ....i think it lasted exactly one day... his gf gave a mahi a bit too much slack, the line looped over the second guide from the tip and snapped the rod in half...bye-bye


Alto Mare

Quote from: Bryan Young on March 18, 2014, 01:24:43 AM
And he used a 300 gram jig. I'd like to see anyone jig with a 10/0 or even a 6/0 reel. You May Not Last Even A Few Drop Of Your. Jig.
I was talking about bringing the fish to the boat, not jigging with a 10/0. I could see that the video was professionally edited, who knows how many times he got up from his knees  :-\. Definitely something I would never try, but as I said I give him a lot of credit.
I wonder how long that set would last on wicked tuna ;D
That rod and reel got some good advertisement.
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maxpowers

his setup was actually a bit on the light side.  If he had say a black hole 450 gram and maybe PE 7-9 lines on a Mak 16 or so, that fish would have been to the boat that much sooner.  He was fishing 80 lbs power pro on a PE 3-6 rod which is probably equivalent to blackhole 250 gram or so.  Really way too light to go after cows.

Tightlines667

This fishing style is a bit foreign to me, and I'll be the first to admit I have no real world experience jigging irons for 'cows' on smaller reels and parabolic rods.  I guess the concept just seems to go against all that I've learned.  Catching big fish on smaller, lightweight gear spooled w/spectra has always intrigued me.    I've caught alot of large (some world record class) fish on lightweight gear but we used small silky smooth reels,  spooled w/ lots of quality lightweight mono, and focused on traditional standup technique and used the boat to stay with the fish.  I always thought short quick pumps w/ a short stiff rod (w/a snappy tip), paired w/the proper standup setup would work best on controlling the fish and retrieving line, even with lightweight spectra-spooled 2-speed reel, and shorter 'snappier' type rod.  I've heard alot of good things about these 'Black Hole' jigging rods though, and am intrigued by the concept.  Maybe I'll have to invest in a setup once I get the cash together to go fish big YFT in a long range trip.  Interesting stuff.
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raumati01

Quote from: Bryan Young on March 18, 2014, 01:24:43 AM
And he used a 300 gram jig. I'd like to see anyone jig with a 10/0 or even a 6/0 reel. You May Not Last Even A Few Drop Of Your. Jig.

I'd like to see someone other than me try it, mechanically jigging with one of those reels would be damn near impossible . An ocean jigger has a ratio of 4:1 or so with a spool that size it isn't hugely quick I would have thought.
It's great to see fish like that caught on mechanical jigs, as others have pointed out the rod is a huge part of the equation in bringing in a fish like that. Well done that man.

Bill B

Ok NOOB question....just having landed that monster..on what ever you're fishing with....what do you do to refresh your tackle?.....meaning re tie a new hook...check your splice from leader to main line...cool your drags...buy a shot for everyone on the charter....sit back and let everyone buy you a shot....
It may not be very productive,
but it's sure going to be interesting!

maxpowers

Quote from: TARFU on March 21, 2014, 03:26:39 AM
Ok NOOB question....just having landed that monster..on what ever you're fishing with....what do you do to refresh your tackle?.....meaning re tie a new hook...check your splice from leader to main line...cool your drags...buy a shot for everyone on the charter....sit back and let everyone buy you a shot....

typically you rest up take picture and enjoy yourself...since he was jigging, i would imagine he cut whatever portion of the leader that is frayed, damaged, etc and retied his jig..i doubt it if he tried jigging with that setup for cows again as the rod and reel were overtaxed.

Magilla

Great effort from the guy, probably wasn't expecting a fish that size but did the job none the less. I'm not a fan of traditional stiff rods myself and not too keen on long rods with high mounts like that one either. Some of the high quality small reels available these days are every bit as capable as some of the older reels that are more than twice their size.
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raumati01

Quote from: Magilla on March 21, 2014, 06:02:39 AM
Great effort from the guy, probably wasn't expecting a fish that size but did the job none the less. I'm not a fan of traditional stiff rods myself and not too keen on long rods with high mounts like that one either. Some of the high quality small reels available these days are every bit as capable as some of the older reels that are more than twice their size.

Jig rods tend to have the reel quite high up the rod, it makes it easier to mechanically jig when the reel is further out from your body. You are right  though, the ocean jigger has about 38 lbs  drag with a carbontex upgrade.

Keta

Quote from: TARFU on March 21, 2014, 03:26:39 AM
Ok NOOB question....just having landed that monster..on what ever you're fishing with....what do you do to refresh your tackle?.....meaning re tie a new hook...check your splice from leader to main line...cool your drags...buy a shot for everyone on the charter....sit back and let everyone buy you a shot....

After a short break I usually replace the topshot, tie on a new hook, put on a fresh bait and go back to fishing.
Hi, my name is Lee and I have a fishing gear problem.

I have all of the answers, yup, no, maybe.

A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way.
Mark Twain