Daiwa magnetic seal service

[handi2]

The Ferrofluid works fine. The little disposable plastic container is enough for many reels but it goes bad quickly. I haven't used any this year so I haven't tried a way to save it.

[ez2cdave]

The Ferrofluid works fine. The little disposable plastic container is enough for many reels but it goes bad quickly. I haven't used any this year so I haven't tried a way to save it.

What do you mean by "it goes bad" ?

[ReelClean]

The Ferrofluid works fine. The little disposable plastic container is enough for many reels but it goes bad quickly. I haven't used any this year so I haven't tried a way to save it.

What do you mean by "it goes bad" ?

X2?
I seal it up upright in a small placcy bag and it seems to last forever.  This is the Ferrotec fluid you are using?

[Rothmar2]

x3
As Reelclean has said, keep it in an airtight container, and it seems to last fine. I got some off Steve a few years ago, and it is still the same consistency as when I first purchased it.

[ez2cdave]

https://www.parts-express.com/ferrofluid-900ul-general-purpose-for-4-diameter-vc--340-546





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[exp2000]

The genuine stuff comes in large bottles.

Daiwa techs say shelf life is ~ 2 years. Then it can become "gluggy" so they thin it out with solvent.
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[mley1]

The genuine stuff comes in large bottles.

Daiwa techs say shelf life is ~ 2 years. Then it can become "gluggy" so they thin it out with solvent.
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If the stuff becomes "gluggy" after only 2years on the shelf, with it just sitting there. How long before it gets "gluggy" when it's actually being used in a reel? The more I hear about the stuff, the more I am disliking it.

[ez2cdave]

The genuine stuff comes in large bottles.

Daiwa techs say shelf life is ~ 2 years. Then it can become "gluggy" so they thin it out with solvent.
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Hmm . . . Where was that photo taken ?  Looks like a "tackle store" in the background to me.

Did they mention the type of "solvent" they used ?

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[ez2cdave]

The genuine stuff comes in large bottles.

Daiwa techs say shelf life is ~ 2 years. Then it can become "gluggy" so they thin it out with solvent.
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If the stuff becomes "gluggy" after only 2years on the shelf, with it just sitting there. How long before it gets "gluggy" when it's actually being used in a reel? The more I hear about the stuff, the more I am disliking it.

Good point, especially if they move away from the "Mag Seal" technology in the future.

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[exp2000]

Did they mention the type of "solvent" they used ?

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I recall that it was nothing special, just generic cleaning solvent that they use in-house so I did not bother to note specifics.
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[exp2000]

If the stuff becomes "gluggy" after only 2years on the shelf, with it just sitting there. How long before it gets "gluggy" when it's actually being used in a reel? The more I hear about the stuff, the more I am disliking it.

Good point, especially if they move away from the "Mag Seal" technology in the future.

Currently they are expanding the use of ferrofluid technology in their reel range so I do not see this happening soon. If it ever does happen, it will be dictated by market acceptance and consequent sales figures.

I really think that they should make it available for general purchase, but it may be the case that Daiwa is bound by contract to the Ferrotec Corporation who manufacture the stuff so they may not have a choice in the matter.

At least we have a promising alternative thanks to the endeavors of Steve (ReelClean)
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[ReelClean]

The genuine stuff comes in large bottles.

Daiwa techs say shelf life is ~ 2 years. Then it can become "gluggy" so they thin it out with solvent.
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That sounds like the typical behavior of a hydrocarbon based oil 

[ReelClean]

If the stuff becomes "gluggy" after only 2years on the shelf, with it just sitting there. How long before it gets "gluggy" when it's actually being used in a reel? The more I hear about the stuff, the more I am disliking it.

Good point, especially if they move away from the "Mag Seal" technology in the future.

Currently they are expanding the use of ferrofluid technology in their reel range so I do not see this happening soon. If it ever does happen, it will be dictated by market acceptance and consequent sales figures.

I really think that they should make it available for general purchase, but it may be the case that Daiwa is bound by contract to the Ferrotec Corporation who manufacture the stuff so they may not have a choice in the matter.

At least we have a promising alternative thanks to the endeavors of Steve (ReelClean)
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...and then Ferrotec let the cat out of the bag and admit it is very like APG-L11  

[ez2cdave]

Found a good price . . .

http://www.parts-express.com/ferrofluid-650ul-general-purpose-for-2-diameter-vc--340-544

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[ez2cdave]

This link is in German . . . Amazon.

https://www.amazon.de/Ferrofluid-beste-Qualit%C3%A4t-fl%C3%BCssiges-Unterricht/dp/B00FVZHR3C

One of the COMMENTS on that page talks about DAIWA and, when translated, reads . . .

"Hello, this ferrofluid can be used as sealant in the new Daiwa spin rolls with "mag sealed" technology. I have used it myself with my daiwa certate and and Luvias. Both roles I have several months in salt water on sea trout fished and the ferrofluid seals wonderful and it does not come to corrosion or similar. I can recommend the item 100% for the Daiwarollen. So you can wait for your own roles. Therefore 5 * for the ferrofluid."

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