alan tani @ alantani.com fishing reel repair rebuild tutorial Ambassadeur Thumb Bar Problem
Reel Repair by Alan Tani
April 06, 2020, 07:36:47 AM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register  
Pages: [1]   Go Down
  Print  
Author Topic: Ambassadeur Thumb Bar Problem  (Read 7135 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
Bucktail
Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 419



WWW
« on: October 17, 2010, 12:59:42 PM »

I'm working on an Ambassadeur Record 60.  After the thumb bar is pressed to cast the reel will not engage when turning the handle.  When I opened the reel it seems like it will return when I push it, but when turning the handle it gets hung up just enough to not allow it to return to the original position.

I hope I'm explaining this correctly.  Does this make sense?  Any thoughts?
Logged

surecatchbilly
Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 13


« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2010, 06:44:55 AM »

Look close at the clutch arm part #22807.The tiniest bit of wear will keep it from engaging.Good luck.
               Surecatch
« Last Edit: October 18, 2010, 06:52:14 AM by surecatchbilly » Logged
Brewer
"Brewer is the most interesting man in the world"
Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 42


« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2010, 07:12:31 AM »

i just finished two of those record 60s. thumbars can be tricky. be sure that the thumb bar is in the upright position when putting the crank sideplate back. if this is not done it will not return after being depressed.
Logged

"stay thirsty my friends"
alantani
admin
Administrator
Member
*****
Online Online

Posts: 18267



« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2010, 08:55:39 AM »

then thumb bar has a pin in it.  sometimes that pin gets pushed in too far.  you have to pull the pin back out so that it properly engages the return lever.  can you take a look and let us know? 
Logged

send me an email at alantani@yahoo.com for questions!
Bucktail
Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 419



WWW
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2010, 05:20:49 PM »

I tried to pull the pin further out with pliers, but it didn't budge.  I think it's out as far as it goes.  I guess I'll have to order that part?
Logged

akfish
Moderator
Member
****
Online Online

Posts: 1120



« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2010, 03:00:33 AM »

You can also get this problem if the frame or sideplate is tweaked just a little. A check for this is to slightly loosen the thumb screws on the sideplate and see if the thumb bar release works. It might. If it does, you can decide if you want to bend the frame or sideplate into shape. I just did this with a 7000 Big Game.
Logged

Taku Reel Repair
Juneau, Alaska
907.789.2448
surecatchbilly
Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 13


« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2010, 05:55:41 AM »

712-336-1520 is a good number for abu parts,,they have always done well by me.
Logged
alantani
admin
Administrator
Member
*****
Online Online

Posts: 18267



« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2010, 11:43:18 AM »

i think this is the best photo i've got and even this one does not show the "return lever" clearly. 



underneath the main gear is a drag washer and then a stainless steel ratchet gear.  when the reel is in free and then you turn the handle, the ratchet gear will strike the bent up lip of the "return lever" and the pushes the entire lever "up."  at that point, the reel pops back into gear,  something is getting in the way of that process.  either the ratchet gear is not catching the lip properly, or the entire return lever is bound up so that it will not "snap" back into position.  before you start ordering parts, pull everything apart again, start fiddling with the parts, work the ratchet gear, see how the return works, then try to figure out where it is "not connecting" or where it is "binding up" and try to fix that.  alan
Logged

send me an email at alantani@yahoo.com for questions!
ssiniscalchi
Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 14


« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2010, 01:16:24 PM »

Perhaps this helps:





Logged
alantani
admin
Administrator
Member
*****
Online Online

Posts: 18267



« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2010, 01:55:26 PM »

yup, that's it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Logged

send me an email at alantani@yahoo.com for questions!
Bucktail
Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 419



WWW
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2010, 09:44:00 PM »

Thanks.  I'll try those suggestions next time I have a chance to play with this reel and let y'all know what I find.
« Last Edit: October 28, 2010, 09:51:51 PM by Bucktail » Logged

surecatchbilly
Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 13


« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2010, 08:13:58 AM »

Nice pictures,I wish I had you guys photo skills.It's the bent up lip of the "return lever" that sometimes shows wear,I guess it comes fro
m hitting the crank before the cast has ended.Muskie fishermen sometimes do this,I had spent hours on one before my eye caught the problem.
Logged
Pages: [1]   Go Up
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines
Simple Audio Video Embedder
Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.205 seconds with 16 queries.