alan tani @ alantani.com fishing reel repair rebuild tutorial Daiwa Sealine 30H
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« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2015, 06:18:02 AM »

...I just opened one up today and started taking pictures of the process but now I'll just refer to this post. Mine however is not in such beautiful shape as yours. These Sealine reels unfortunately are susceptible to corrosion if they are not maintained on a regular basis.

Only the first two 6-855's in the main gear need the I.D. shave, and only if the main gear has the inner lip. The I.D. of the other two 6-855 stack washers and the undergear is fine as-is.

The chromed parts are susceptible, but so far the all the Sealine frames I have 30H, 50H, 400H, and three 600H's are corrosion free.
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« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2015, 04:57:32 PM »

Upon closer inspection, the reel I have taken apart is actually a Super Hi-speed 30H. Comparing your pictures to the reel I have on hand, the main gear looks to be bigger.

I took the calipers to the drag washers and came up with these measurements:

Thickness = 1.5 mm
OD = 23.9713 mm
ID = 14.1288 mm

This is just for the fiber washers. I've been looking on the size chart from smooth drags but have not found any great matches. I think I'll have to customize them the way you did.
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« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2015, 05:27:56 PM »

Come to think of it, I'm not even sure that this reel is a 30H. The stickers are gone except for the one in the front cross frame and the only thing that leads me to believe that it is a 30H is the line capacity listed on the remaining sticker.
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« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2015, 05:36:56 PM »

Come to think of it, I'm not even sure that this reel is a 30H. The stickers are gone except for the one in the front cross frame and the only thing that leads me to believe that it is a 30H is the line capacity listed on the remaining sticker.

The larger main gear would make sense for the "Super Hi Speed" label...can you post some photos of the reel? I'd never encountered a Sealine H "Super Hi Speed" 30H in all my searching on the web during the last two years. Am wondering if it could be a JDM Sealine 30H that was never exported.

The FIRST option is to contact Dawn at smoothdrag.com and see if she'll custom cut them for you...I'd try this before going to the grinding route.

Smooth Drag washer #40 (27.1 x 13.85 x  1 / 1.2 ) would be the closest...if you have no other option but customize by grinding.

On the Penn side, it would be 6-113h (13.06 x 27.02 x 1.34).

Might want to see which is cheaper and order a couple of more EXTRA just in case...

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« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2015, 05:54:36 PM »

Here are some photos. Sorry it's in pieces for the moment.


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« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2015, 05:56:46 PM »

....and some more


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« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2015, 06:00:07 PM »

... and the last...


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« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2015, 06:51:33 PM »

WOW!!!

Aside from the label, the frame looks exactly like the standard 30H. The right side plate clearly has the extended gearbox for the larger main gear. Is there a plate that covers up the rod-facing side of the extended gearbox?

WOW!!!

Is the left side ring in as good condition as the right side one (which incidentally you were able to get off--guess it WAS possible to get the thumbscrews off...no, wait, it's the left side ring...the "brightness" on the frame left side is corrosion and not reflecting light.)?

You might want to call up Daiwa, USA, and see if the gears and decals are still available. If the tech says he/she has never heard of a Super Hi Speed Sealine 30H, see if they are willing to look at the pics and confirm whether it's a JDM unit.

The corroded surfaces on the bottom of the frame will require routine cleaning to mitigate any future degradation. Wipe down with CorrosionX, perhaps?

Anecdotally, everything is pointing to a limited production run since I have never seen one come up for sale over the course of two years, and Googling brings up nothing, It is a rare bird IMHO.

Cool beans!
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« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2015, 09:56:28 PM »

Hold on...ID = 14.1288 mm...with the main gear on the gear sleeve and the 1st drag washer and 1 key washer inside, does the second drag washer's sit on that 1st keyed washer with a gap "ring area" showing between the drag washer's I.D. and the gear sleeve? The Daiwa factory drag washers from my boring ole standard 30H has this gap because the I.D. is about 14.5mm and the gear sleeve dia. is just under 12mm.

The 6-855 washers have a 11.99 mm I.D., and once installed sat tightly around the gear sleeve, eliminating the gap for the second and third drag washers. If all this is true for you as well, then the 6-320 may be a better option with only the O.D. needing a "shave." From smoothdrag.com, #31 or #38 are possible candidates.

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« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2015, 05:48:20 AM »

Yes, it looks like there is a millimeter, or more, of space between the ID of the fiber washer and the sleeve.
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« Reply #25 on: March 24, 2015, 06:03:54 AM »

Here is a view from the top. It is also worth noting that the interior bottom of this main gear is smooth; it doesn't have a lip at the bottom the way your 30H does.

I am going to try to get in touch with Daiwa, as you suggested. I'd really like to hear what they have to say.


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« Reply #26 on: March 24, 2015, 06:34:37 AM »

Yes, it looks like there is a millimeter, or more, of space between the ID of the fiber washer and the sleeve.

After you confirm that the gear sleeve is < 12mm, I think that the Smooth Drag #31 would be the best candidate though you will need to double up all three. I don't think thinner metal washers are readily available for a 5+1 config.
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« Reply #27 on: March 24, 2015, 07:24:21 PM »

So here's the skinny,

I've gotten in touch with Daiwa and have come to find out that the reel I'm working on is a 30SH. So yes, Daiwa did make a Super Hi-Speed 30H. Unfortunately they did not give me much background on it's history but I was able to find a parts schematic for it online.

On to the gear sleeve and drag washers. It measures out to be 10.795 mm. I have been checking out the size chart on smooth drags and I notice that #19 has a good OD and ID but the washers are not thick enough. I'll figure something out though.
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« Reply #28 on: March 24, 2015, 07:43:07 PM »

Just get a small sheet of Carbon fiber in the thickness you need and cut your own.
I do that for all my reels now.
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« Reply #29 on: March 24, 2015, 07:55:57 PM »

Just get a small sheet of Carbon fiber in the thickness you need and cut your own.
I do that for all my reels now.


Where do you order that from?
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