My setups that worked and the one that failed.

Started by Porthos, June 21, 2015, 01:03:38 AM

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Porthos

What worked for me:


  • Daiwa 30H enhanced with CF washers and power handle + Okuma Catalina CT-C-661MH; 65lb braid, 30lb mono topshot, 30lb fluoro leader


  • Tiburonized Penn 27 with SS gear sleeve, 13-200 Surfmaster pinion, 24-56 crank + Okuma CT-T-601M; 50lb braid, 40lb mono topshot, 40lb fluoro leader
  • Penn 970 with 24-349 handle + Okuma CT-T-601M; 50lb braid, 40lb mono topshot, 40lb fluoro leader
  • Okuma CD-65 enhanced with CF washers + Daiwa CC701XHFS & Daiwa STW70MHS; 50lb braid, 25lb mono topshot
  • Daiwa CF4000 + Daiwa CC701XHFS; 40lb braid, 20lb topshot
  • Fin-nor LT100 + Daiwa STW70MHS; 50lb braid, 50lb mono topshot
  • Fin-nor LT100 + Daiwa STJ70XHFS; 100lb braid, 100lb mono topshot

Since the conventionals were a known quantity, the two Fin-nors were the setups of more interest that needed more proving. Both were used for yoyo-ing, the 50lb with a blue and white Sumo Jr. and the 100lb with a blue and white Sumo 6. Both hooked up to YT on the retrieve.

The 50lb-er (with 15 lbs drag from top of spool) got the bigger one (the darker back one underneath the more silver one):


...with no issues. Guessing about 44 inches.

The 100lb-er (with 22 lbs drag from top of spool) got this one (the smaller one at the bottom):


...but 2/3 of way into the fight, the handle came OFF!!! Deckhand JP help slam the handle back on to the handle shaft and I made sure the last 1/3 of the fight was retrieved with little or no lateral force on the handle. After the YT had been gaffed (guessing about 40 inches), a closer inspection of the handle showed that the securing bolt had snapped.





The breakage occurred about 2-3mm below the screwhead. When I swap the broken handle with the intact one from the 50lb-er, the 100lb-er still cranked just as smoothly. Will be contacting Fin-nor...

All-in-all, a great trip regardless of equipment failure.

swill88


Big Tim

No Bueno dude on the breakage...I'm glad you were able to finish the fight, but I wonder if there was a defect in the screw from the factory? Screw comes loose due to not properly tightened, (yes) handle breaks under heavy load, (yes)..but that was either over torqued or a defective screw..or to shallow of a hole causing it to bottom out? Hope you find the cause & thank for the report

theswimmer

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I also wonder about the source for fasteners.
The guys I know who are still racing will use nothing but USA manufacturered fasteners.
Same thing with all my rigging at work, if it doesn't say USA I won't buy it.
I just replaced a 7 ton hook and 2  8 ton shackles, bill was $381 and worth every penny.
Hell, if I'd jumped on all the dames I'm supposed to have jumped on, I'd have had no time to go fishing.

Clark Gable

Keta

Not all SS alloys are the same and most are not fastener quality.
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Dominick

Porthos when those things happen it makes for a great story and a greater memory.  I had a screw come loose on my Penn International 50 while hooked up to a YFT.  It was my friend Joe's turn on the rod so I tightened he reeled a turn or two and I had to keep doing that until we got it in.  We were laughing all the time while Joe abused my reel working ability.  Dominick
Leave the gun.  Take the cannolis.

There are two things I don't like about fishing.  Getting up early in the morning and boats.  The rest of it is fun.

Rancanfish

Good post on the equipment.

You are the only person that has reported use of his 970 that I've heard.  Can you tell me what you thought of the performance?

You don't want to tighten the sideplate screws too much is all I know.   8)
I woke today and suddenly nothing happened.

johndtuttle

Sorry you had trouble and thanks for the report.

Probably just an uber cheap fastener from the factory that wasn't totally up to spec. A replacement will probably hold up fine.

The LT-100 is an enigma that seems to be a "loss leader" intended to gain market share and recognition for Fin Nor. No one can explain the pricing otherwise despite my friend Alan Hawk's belief that anyone could do the same.

The Quantum Cabo 100 is a very similar design and even shares many identical features but is nearly $200 more from the same parent company (Zebco) and it seems they have wrung every penny out they could to bring the LT-100 to market.

Regardless, those that get one of the good ones enjoy the reel.  ;)

Big Tim


Porthos

Quote from: Rancanfish on June 21, 2015, 03:23:06 PM
Good post on the equipment.

You are the only person that has reported use of his 970 that I've heard.  Can you tell me what you thought of the performance?

You don't want to tighten the sideplate screws too much is all I know.   8)

It cranked in YT nice and easy, but I also had the benefit of the 24-349 handle...if it was the original 24-970 with 1" less, probably would of hated it.

Alto Mare

You're talking too loud Porthos::). Yes, it was the handle, those reels are worthless. Guys steer from them ;D.

Sorry to hear about your reel,  breaking down with the fish on its no fun. I'm glad you still got it to the boat, a sign of a well aged fisherman.

Can't blame Fin-nor for that one, Penn and a few others have done the same. A reminder that today they use junk.
As long as  their name plate is on their product, most get away with it :-\ .

Thanks for the report, very helpful to many.

Sal
Forget about all the reasons why something may not work. You only need to find one good reason why it will.

johndtuttle

Quote from: Alto Mare on June 21, 2015, 04:26:50 PM


Can't blame Fin-nor for that one, Penn and a few others have done the same. A reminder that today they use junk.


It's true and even possible the different fasteners came from the same supplier in China.

Any trip down to the hardware store reveals the same stuff. Got a box of wood screws the other day that the heads twisted off of every one. Improperly (or never) hardened.

Rancanfish

Yes, sad that to save a buck, we have sacrificed quality. 

I woke today and suddenly nothing happened.

Dominick

Leave the gun.  Take the cannolis.

There are two things I don't like about fishing.  Getting up early in the morning and boats.  The rest of it is fun.

MarkT

The only epic fail I saw was Randy's Terez rod breaking! I had a number of connection failures on improved albrights. I must've crossed some lines up so they cut into themselves.
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